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CommunistPancake posted:where are the highlights im not watching twenty minutes of a car driving 4:30ish and 10:50
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Qwijib0 posted:it's an angle I hadn't heard or thought of but if it's true is there some low level of trains where it's not worth running them? (also surely someone else would have unearthed the minutes from these local meetings with the number of twitter gumshoes) not really. here on the east coast there's a lot of businesses who only get their siding handled once a week or less. its still very useful to them for handling some of their bulk shipments at those rates. and there's tons of sidings into various facilities where there'sjust not any regular train service, but they're still not torn up or disconnected from the running tracks. because cutting that poo poo out completely costs money you just don't need to pay, yknow? theres basically no reason to have completely cut service and tracks to the factory.
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Last Chance posted:that video is terrifying lol. like you can almost sense the car wants to drive right into the ditch and that its hosed up computer brain is being overworked. poor lil guy poor lil tesla autopilot. thought of driving and died
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I love that the dude complains that it doesn't accelerate fast enough out of one of the corners, but when it crosses the center line, then over corrects off into the gravel, beeping warnings at him, he's like, just a little over the line, pretty good!
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lol despite having gps and maps it will gladly fling itself into a blind corner with no regards can't wait to see people die on their way to Coachella with one
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i mean it is doing a pretty good job for a robot in 2018 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0TaYhjpOfo
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FAUXTON posted:Is there a level of trains so low it's worth ripping the tracks up too though ehh ten trains a weekday with ten autoracks per train (probably low) and ten cars per autorack could handle their 5K weekly output entirely
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abigserve posted:lol I must have missed this being linked before: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOPYpD1Knpw "with these sort of roads it tends to do quite well" How the hell does it look like when it does bad? Instant death? That drive was horrible, frightening and how the dude stays calm is beyond me. 10:30min and forward the car loses it like 3 times in a row and is barely saved by the extended tarmac patch on the outside of the corner. The lane selection is complete garbage. The car is seemingly randomly hugging the inside, outside or middle of the track. This is very mild high-speed driving. It should hug the inside or use an ideal lane profile (outside - apex inside - outside) and the regulation seems to at the same time be overdamped and very happy to oscillate which is an incredibly hard to achieve state of hosed up. How people defend this in its current state... Or worse, Use it... Is beyond me. Combat Theory fucked around with this message at 06:29 on Sep 25, 2018 |
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imagine for a moment that you trusted, absolutely trusted, the technology in use and the quality of its implementation. he's calm because he believes the computer is incapable of being unsafe. if it's driving in a way that appears to be incredibly dangerous, it's just because it's operating beyond human efficiency. why do you think these loving morons keep dying when it plows them into a highway gore at 100mph? they never once consider taking control
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~state of the art tesla autopilot technology~ has finally achieved the competence of a student driver  dude's even sitting there going "that's pretty good, took that corner pretty well, ooh got a little outside the line there but that's okay we're alright, going a little fast there might want to slow down"
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lol that thing drives like poo poo
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abigserve posted:lol I must have missed this being linked before: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOPYpD1Knpw I’m suddenly very concerned about self driving cars
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Just take this corner and whoopsie we wiped out a cyclist, but otherwise this is pretty good
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Um excuse me This is an awful video from which to judge autopilot’s current status and general ability at its primary current application (divided highways). It’s exactly the kind of driving that Tesla says autopilot is not recommended for right now, and exactly the kind of driving we already know it currently performs the worst at. We also have great reason to speculate that there are currently torque and turn rate limits placed on the autopilot system designed to prevent it from doing anything rash in recommended conditions like divided highways, but could easily be and probably are reducing its performance in this situation. OpenPilot’s experience with manufacturer hard coded torque limits for fly by wire vehicle controls here are very informative about this - see Comma AI and their autonomous driving project. Not trying to be a Tesla fanboy here, but this just isn’t representative of what these systems are currently oriented towards: divided highway travel, which is just plain simpler than this. You have to understand that the Tesla's traction control is simply the smartest in the world - it will not spin out if it were to touch gravel. It can pull a semi truck in the snow. It does not lose traction because power is applied or taken away at literal millisecond intervals. This is a rather safe exercise since autopilot forces you to hold onto the wheel at all times or it will slow down and shut off. At 10:59 it literally knew it was going outside the lane and did it anyway. Once the full autonomy update comes out later this year as Elon tweeted, I would love to see the road revisited. gschmidl fucked around with this message at 09:50 on Sep 25, 2018 |
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Combat Theory posted:Source your quotes They're all from that youtube video's comments.
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:this is from pages back but what's extra funny is that a lot of the guys that won big weren't the super-rockstar programmers or engineers, they were the biz guys. bill gates got way more mileage out of being a cutthroat than his ability to write or read code. interesting to compare steve jobs and steve wozniak for this, since the former became impossibly rich and eventually died from his own douchiness, while the latter said "gently caress tech" and became a preschool teacher also one of my former bosses at an msp was the "sales" guy but also bailed on tech and now runs a dogsitting service and has never been happier
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Sep 25, 2018 13:06
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that driving would be ok and all, id be moderately impressed with the progress even if it's still pretty rough, if that were video of a research project still expected to be years from completion. that it's out in the wild on production vehicles that idiots can actually use on real roads is scary. aren't tesla claiming they'll have a car self drive coast to coast by the end of this year?
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haha CA-79 is easy mode, bet he'd poo poo his pants if he went down a real road
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gschmidl posted:They're all from that youtube video's comments. gschmidl posted:
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gschmidl posted:Um excuse me b r u t a l
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Silver Alicorn posted:haha CA-79 is easy mode, bet he'd poo poo his pants if he went down a real road hard to decide whether to comment on the furry avatar or the name 'hellhole palms' here
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gschmidl posted:Um excuse me your car will probably drive between the lines after a software patch due later this year
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It's like the apple marketing tactic of taking an existing technology and hamming it up as though it was something magic. https://youtu.be/iKWBdySgssE Six and a half god drat years ago.
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hailthefish posted:~state of the art tesla autopilot technology~ has finally achieved the competence of a student driver more like a drunk driver. drat thing weaves around like crazy. then there's the "well actually it is currently supposed to be used on divided highways" crowd that rushes into every video showing poo poo performance on two lane roads. if it isn't supposed to be used for this type of driving why the gently caress does it let you try to use it?
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Sep 25, 2018 14:54
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big scary monsters posted:that driving would be ok and all, id be moderately impressed with the progress even if it's still pretty rough, if that were video of a research project still expected to be years from completion. that it's out in the wild on production vehicles that idiots can actually use on real roads is scary. aren't tesla claiming they'll have a car self drive coast to coast by the end of this year? This is my take on self driving vehicles. The state of the art is loving amazing (not suggesting that tesla is anywhere near the state of the art) and all the time new poo poo is coming out that blows my mind. But its insane that we let it on public roads... and this is easy mode. Rain, snow, fog, edge cases (animals running into the road? we already know what happens when people do...). Not to mention what happens when these systems age or get damaged. Even if it could navigate this road perfectly nerds would never acknowledge that this is literally the best conditions it could have done it in: clear day, dry road, no traffic. The fact its allowed is either because the hype surrounding it has blinded policy makers to how dangerous it is, or because they value corporate investment over public safety.
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the peeps who actually know wtf they're doing (goog, basically), hosed around on private roads and the darpa challenge and poo poo like that for about 10 years before shoving them on the easiest public roads (mountain view, phoenix)
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graph posted:Hellhole Palms it’s a place you can go
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ADINSX posted:This is my take on self driving vehicles. The state of the art is loving amazing (not suggesting that tesla is anywhere near the state of the art) and all the time new poo poo is coming out that blows my mind. why not both?
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Silver Alicorn posted:it’s a place you can go also jesus' nickname.
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bob dobbs is dead posted:the peeps who actually know wtf they're doing (goog, basically), hosed around on private roads and the darpa challenge and poo poo like that for about 10 years before shoving them on the easiest public roads (mountain view, phoenix) Yeah, and I don't know if they ever reach any kind of dangerous speeds... like 40 - 50 mph on a highway... Thats probably the most realistic scenario where we'll see any kind of actually autonomous self driving cars... Nerds get hard over the idea of a tricked out electric muscle car (that only they have, naturally) that can coolly navigate around traffic at super human speeds. More likely we'll all be stuck in padded Google Bumpercars, driving like grandmas around congested city streets, occasionally bumping into things. You'll still be stuck in gridlock traffic but at least you can hook your chromebook up to the in-car wifi (9.95 a month but its cool, you can expense it since you'll be expected to start the work day in the car.)
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ADINSX posted:Yeah, and I don't know if they ever reach any kind of dangerous speeds... like 40 - 50 mph on a highway... the nerdboner is for automated intersections without lights where cars cross-stitch across the intersection 
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Sep 25, 2018 15:20
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luv 2 go cross my completely ordinary local 12 lane 4-way intersection the roads around where i live in north norway are mostly unmarked with no barriers, just wide enough for two vehicles to pass (or have passing places where that isn't possible). they're covered in ice 5-6 months a year, snow drifts and 60mph winds are common and moose and reindeer on the road are an everyday thing. the surfaces are bumpy and torn to poo poo cos everyone uses spiked tyres and/or snow chains. there are are tunnels everywhere and it's dark the majority of the winter. at the same time, Norway has the highest per capita uptake of electric vehicles of any country and there's a big tesla dealership in the nearest city, i see teslas on the roads every day i dunno how many people actually use autopilot here, but i bet the winter is going to be a fun one for them
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mewse posted:the nerdboner is for automated intersections without lights where cars cross-stitch across the intersection  For the love of all that is holy, no.
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mewse posted:the nerdboner is for automated intersections without lights where cars cross-stitch across the intersection These space tolerances are not even remotely reasonable for what could be considered "safe" I would only approve that kind of design for cars that don't carry people
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Not a Children posted:I would only approve that kind of design for cars that don't carry people arent some ports already like that
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i now have no small doubt that i will end up getting greased on the side of a road by a nerd with a cracking voice doing a vblog
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mewse posted:Hot take: ol muskie has finally handed over his tweeter to the PR dept 2little 2late infernal machines posted:VERTICAL INTEGRATION grahms, wir a bit behahnd at the fecktry, help me punch this tree apart
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graph posted:arent some ports already like that yes but they still have way higher safety margins.
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