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Scaramouche posted:I think I've brought this up before but I've consistently found in ESL speakers that they know what "dog eat dog world" is, but they think it's "doggy dog world" (e.g. a world fit for dogs) Well it is a crazy, mixed up world.
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Scaramouche posted:I think I've brought this up before but I've consistently found in ESL speakers that they know what "dog eat dog world" is, but they think it's "doggy dog world" (e.g. a world fit for dogs) They made this exact joke in Modern Family too, like somewhere in the first season IIRC. Interesting that it has some basis in reality.
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Scaramouche posted:I think I've brought this up before but I've consistently found in ESL speakers that they know what "dog eat dog world" is, but they think it's "doggy dog world" (e.g. a world fit for dogs) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyGdhvtklc8
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Sep 27, 2018 21:05
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Knew what it was gonna be, but disappointed it wasn't the music video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QI6N5GBoevI
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Gynocentric Regime posted:Knew what it was gonna be, but disappointed it wasn't the music video. God drat it, I forgot there was a video. 
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Sep 27, 2018 22:23
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Scaramouche posted:I think I've brought this up before but I've consistently found in ESL speakers that they know what "dog eat dog world" is, but they think it's "doggy dog world" (e.g. a world fit for dogs) I find this in EFL speakers as well.
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Sep 28, 2018 02:48
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Dross posted:I find this in EFL speakers as well. Yeah, basically any commonly heard phrase that people odnt see written down is going to have this happen. See also: for all intensive purposes beckon call taken for granite tongue and cheek And way too many songs lyrics to list out.
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Sep 28, 2018 15:03
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Acute Grill posted:Yeah, basically any commonly heard phrase that people odnt see written down is going to have this happen. My peeve is "should of" in the place of "should've"/"should have"
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You get the reverse in bookish kids encountering words like "subtle" or "draught" that they've never heard spoken.
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Sep 28, 2018 15:27
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:You get the reverse in bookish kids encountering words like "subtle" or "draught" that they've never heard spoken. "Macabre" is one of those. I only knew how to say it because Calvin and Hobbes rhymed it with "job" one time. There's a joke in the first Simpsons Halloween special where Bart says it "Mac-a-bree" that went completely over my head.
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Sep 28, 2018 15:35
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:You get the reverse in bookish kids encountering words like "subtle" or "draught" that they've never heard spoken. This was the word "Facade" for me. I knew the front of the building was a fasaad, that must have been some sort of middle eastern origin or something. I had just never seen it in print. A Fake Aid was a false front that someone put on when dealing with people. It wasn't until I was called on it one time that I realized they were the same word. If I were reading something unprepared that had that word, I'd say there's about a 50% chance I'd say Fake aid instead of the proper pronunciation. AFewBricksShy has a new favorite as of 15:47 on Sep 28, 2018 |
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Sep 28, 2018 15:42
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A previous girlfriend had to be the one to tell me that the grain is not pronounced kwi-no-uh
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:You get the reverse in bookish kids encountering words like "subtle" or "draught" that they've never heard spoken. I read in English all the time, but rarely speak it, so this happens to me sometimes. 'Macabre' I've heard often enough to know you're not supposed to pronounce the -re (unlike in French which I also speak to some extent), but that definitely wouldn't have been my first instinct.
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purple death ray posted:"Macabre" is one of those. I only knew how to say it because Calvin and Hobbes rhymed it with "job" one time. There's a joke in the first Simpsons Halloween special where Bart says it "Mac-a-bree" that went completely over my head. Hopefully kids of today will read the Graveyard Book and learn to sing the dance A mack a bray
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Dross posted:A previous girlfriend had to be the one to tell me that the grain is not pronounced kwi-no-uh Exactly the same thing happened to me
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I recently realised how whales work: They eat by filling their mouths with water which they then push out again with their tongue through the filters in their mouth leaving the edible stuff inside., hence the term filter feeder. I'd never really considered this before so I have no idea how I thought it worked, but I've always imagined they fed by some process where they just swam around with the mouth open, automatically filtering the oceans like some form of giant sieve. I have no idea how I thought they solved the issue of having the absurd quantities of water flowing through them. 
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Sep 28, 2018 16:10
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Isn't the "floating around with open mouths" thing how basking sharks feed?Phlegmish posted:I read in English all the time, but rarely speak it, so this happens to me sometimes. I can't think of any examples atm but english has an annoying amount of french loanwoards that aren't pronounced the french way but also aren't pronounced in any intuitive english way. Edgar Allen Ho has a new favorite as of 16:19 on Sep 28, 2018 |
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Sep 28, 2018 16:17
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:Isn't the "floating around with open mouths" thing how basking sharks feed? Yes. Also this revelation only applies to baleen whales
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:You get the reverse in bookish kids encountering words like "subtle" or "draught" that they've never heard spoken. I still read it in my head as "drott" despite having known better for twenty years. I just like it better that way. I mean, of course, I'd pronounce it correctly if I ever had a call to.
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Pastry of the Year posted:I still read it in my head as "drott" despite having known better for twenty years. I just like it better that way. It'll probably be 'angsitty' in my head forever. anxiety
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I was way into my twenties before I realized that "nevermind" (the record) and "never mind" (the expression) have subtle differences  I think I still write out "nevermind" in chats & such
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Sep 28, 2018 16:48
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My brother used to pronounce Yukon as Yuck-On when he was a kid. I, in turn, used to call Count Basie, Count Bass for some ungodly reason.
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Sep 28, 2018 17:32
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Proteus Jones posted:My peeve is "should of" in the place of "should've"/"should have" The one that gets me is "I could care less". If you just take a second to think about the phrase you can see it means the opposite of what you want it to mean!
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When I was like four, I was reading with my mom [The Adventures of Egbert the Easter Egg if anyone cares], and I came across the word “vague”, and she kept correcting my pronunciation, but since she didn’t explain that the “-ue” was silent, I kept screwing it up, getting increasingly frustrated. She never did explain it.
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Sep 28, 2018 17:37
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Hardcordion posted:The one that gets me is "I could care less". If you just take a second to think about the phrase you can see it means the opposite of what you want it to mean! It makes sense either way. "I couldn't care less" = this is a thing that I care the least amount about. "I could care less" = this is a thing that I care an uncertain amount about but the sarcastic implication is that not by much.
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"I could probably care less if I really tried" implies that you don't even care enough to try to care less. It's the rarely observed paradox burn.
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Jerry Cotton posted:It makes sense either way. "I couldn't care less" = this is a thing that I care the least amount about. "I could care less" = this is a thing that I care an uncertain amount about but the sarcastic implication is that not by much. I think you're putting way more thought into the commonly misused expression then the people who routinely misuse it. "Could care less" is plainly wrong and people using it (generally) are just mangling the correct version. It makes literally no sense in context to use it. It is only ever used in the first sense you listed.
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I seem to recall that “misled” is one that trips a lot of people up. I’m sure it must’ve gotten me in my youth.
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iajanus posted:I think you're putting way more thought into the commonly misused expression then the people who routinely misuse it. "Could care less" is plainly wrong and people using it (generally) are just mangling the correct version. It makes literally no sense in context to use it. It is only ever used in the first sense you listed. do you also get like this about the phrase "head over heels"
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I still think "sleight" (as in "sleight of hand") should rhyme with "weight", not "height".
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Every loving time "could/couldn't care less" comes up, a bunch of pedantic goons argue about which is correct and why. Nobody is confused about what is meant by "could care less". Everyone knows what it means and nobody is going "well that means they care at least a little bit" because people don't break down idiomatic expressions and interpret them one word at a time. That's not how colloquial language works. The expression is understood as a whole, which is why when someone says a figure of speech wrong (like "for all intensive purposes") you still know what they mean.
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This conversation is literally killing me
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Red Metal posted:do you also get like this about the phrase "head over heels" If it were still a hundred years ago when people used the more logical version still I would care, but that ship has sailed. Considering the correct version of the other phrase is still extremely commonly used around the world, I'll keep laughing at anyone who outs themselves as dumb enough to try to over-explain an obvious mistake as being anything but.
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How about "one after the next" or "each one [adjective]-er than the next"?
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Hirayuki posted:How about "one after the next" or "each one [adjective]-er than the next"? Don't recall hearing that one, although it does have a pleasing insanity to it.
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I used to pronounce miniseries as miniz-eries. I got caught out when I told someone I thought that "The Pacific are better miniz-eries than Band of Brothers". I was well, well, well into my late twenties.
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Sep 28, 2018 19:22
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:This conversation is literally killing me I don't mind that use because it's just hyperbole for emphasis.
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duckmaster posted:I used to pronounce miniseries as miniz-eries. I got caught out when I told someone I thought that "The Pacific are better miniz-eries than Band of Brothers". 
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Hirayuki posted:I thought a biopic (which I still think is a dumb word for a biographical film) was pronounced like "myopic". I also momentarily thought the word was Afrikaans. Just learned I mispronounce “biopic”
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