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TheBigAristotle posted:Am I reading these rules correctly that Imperial Fists can ignore the new going-second 2 command point strategem? My patience is rewarded. Kudos for GW with being more aggressive on CP generation nonsense than I expected them to be, and doubling down on "positioning is important" as a core game mechanic. This is a good set of changes. e:f page break, here is my Primaris army so far 
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I mean, how are they ever going to avoid rules bloat while both updating the rules often and having paper books? Wouldn't it all need to be online? Having paper books you have to errata is sort of inherently additive ie: now I have 4 printed pages to tuck under the front cover of my kill team book.
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Sep 28, 2018 17:27
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Harvey Mantaco posted:You can use aos stuff in 40k? You can use pretty much any Chaos Daemon stuff in 40k. I'm not sure why that box only has AoS branding on it tbh. The Sex Cannon posted:If you all come across any salty nerds on facebook or whatever, I'd be deeply appreciative as I'd like to compile a list of hot takes to read on the Badcast. Dakka has let me down today. I was expecting so much salt when I saw the FAQ, and instead it's a bunch of people going "that's not bad actually".
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Sep 28, 2018 17:28
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Harvey Mantaco posted:You can use aos stuff in 40k? Almost all the demons are cross-compatible.
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Sep 28, 2018 17:28
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Harvey Mantaco posted:You can use aos stuff in 40k? The Chaos Daemon line is largely the same across both systems. They will have different rules of course, but the same minis (with some exceptions, ie: Soul Grinders).
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Jack B Nimble posted:I mean, how are they ever going to avoid rules bloat while both updating the rules often and having paper books? Wouldn't it all need to be online? Having paper books you have to errata is sort of inherently addictive ie: now I have 4 printed pages to tuck under the front cover of my kill team book. You're right on both points. Other game companies have figured this out. We're stuck with codexes and indexes for now. Maybe they'll come to Space Jesus in time for 9th. That said, they should be consolidating the Rule Book. Rule book + Rules FAQ + Big FAQ 1 + Big FAQ 2 shrinks to "Updated rules".
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Sep 28, 2018 17:36
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We'll get that eventually and it'll just be called "9th edition" or "8.5 edition"
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Sep 28, 2018 17:37
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Felime posted:Oh, poo poo, and no prohibition on stacking knight invuln saves to 3+. That's still going to be a fucker. Didn't even make Rotate Ion Shields more expensive. I was fully expecting 1cp Armiger, 2cp Quesator, 3cp Dominus, but no, Qs still get it for one.  Naramyth posted:Now that raven might be too expensive to run maybe its FNP tanaris knight time I get why all those Castellan players loved OoC, but as a guy who runs a Gallant, a Crusader, and an Armiger or three, OoC was never why I took Raven. I took Raven because it gets you some of the fastest, shootiest Knights out there. Crusader and Helverins play keep away, Gallant and Warglaives get in fast, shooting all the way.
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Injuryprone posted:But how does the DR nerf make you feel? What was changed? I didn't see it 🤔
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TheChirurgeon posted:We'll get that eventually and it'll just be called "9th edition" or "8.5 edition" Yeah I'd like to see an v8.5 book once all the codexes are out.
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So there was a bit of a rules argument I got into a recent game involving Pulsed Laser Discharge.quote:Pulsed Laser Discharge: Because it specified next movement phase instead of just its shooting phase. My opponent said that it meant that my Fire Prism would move half speed on turn 1, and then on turn 2 it could fire twice. I thought this was absolutely crazy and thankfully I had some literal neckbeard (wizard type not stubble type) on my side to say that it's the same turn's shooting. The FAQ didn't clarify though and I'd hate to be wrong and have had a tainted game, so any thoughts?
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Injuryprone posted:
Oh. I never would have interpreted it that way in the first place. Injury Rolls are based off the weapon's Damage Characteristic. Disgustingly Resilient doesn't modify the characteristic, it just lets you ignore damage. So why would it.
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Chucat posted:So there was a bit of a rules argument I got into a recent game involving Pulsed Laser Discharge. It is the same turns shooting. Movement > Psychic > Shooting > Charging > Melee > Morale. When you're in the movement phase, the next shooting phase is the one immediately following your psychic phase. The FAQ didn't clarify this because it doesn't need to, your opponent needs to get his brain checked.
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Chucat posted:So there was a bit of a rules argument I got into a recent game involving Pulsed Laser Discharge. The next Shooting Phase after the turn 1 Movement Phase is the turn 1 Shooting Phase.
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jng2058 posted:Didn't even make Rotate Ion Shields more expensive. I was fully expecting 1cp Armiger, 2cp Quesator, 3cp Dominus, but no, Qs still get it for one. House raven is worth it for the strat. And the strat is only really good for the castellan. Also other knights aren't the problem. Its raven castellan. Then waaaaay down crusaders I guess.
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Well, I pulled the trigger on Conquest. Guess i'm officially back 'in' 40k. Well, I wasn't ever really 'in' in the first place, I guess. The Celestial Lions will soon* march to war! As will my as-yet undefined Plague Marine warband! *for a given definition of soon I guess I can get into killteam while I wait for them to send enough dudes to make a proper 40k list?
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Sep 28, 2018 19:31
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Yvonmukluk posted:The Celestial Lions will soon* march to war! Celestial Lions own bones, good choice. Most of those bones are from the 99% of their chapter that has been killed, but nevertheless...
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Sep 28, 2018 20:15
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Second the choice in Lions. Cool paint scheme, not awful monsters, neat fluff habits. Gives a lot to work with.
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My LGS posted on tbe Facebook that they're discounting Warhammer and other mini games this weekend at amounts they can't advertise. It's a fairly unusual post for them. The question is, what is a realistic discount floor for GW stuff, and is it worth not sleeping in on Saturday to drive 15 minutes to the store? I think I'm gonna get a couple Dreadnoughts for my 2019 Salamanders army. The plan is dread heavy.
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TheBigAristotle posted:My LGS posted on tbe Facebook that they're discounting Warhammer and other mini games this weekend at amounts they can't advertise. It's a fairly unusual post for them. Retailer discount is 40% usually.
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TheBigAristotle posted:My LGS posted on tbe Facebook that they're discounting Warhammer and other mini games this weekend at amounts they can't advertise. It's a fairly unusual post for them. If they can't advertise it, it's more than 15% which is the max GW allows. You can get stuff routinely for 30% off with free shipping off ebay so it's up to you if you want to go to the store or not.
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Speaking of prices, I was just out bid when price plus shipping on all 20 of the dark vengeance cultists whet above $50. What would even be considered the normal price range on Ebay for them?
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If someone went over 50 for cultists, it probably included things like the heavy gunners and champions that aren’t available outside of an OOP starter set.
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Yes, it had (has, it's up Sunday), all the models. Too pricey then, I'll have to find another way to make the cultist kill team.
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Partner and I were just discussing with how the FAQ hadn't hit yet while at the FLGS. Talk about timing I guess. No Custodes changes I'm seeing, did they fall off that hard recently?Schadenboner posted:You can do counts-as/not-Dangles/Bangles/Wuffs using the relevant codex. That's what I figured, but wanted to double check. I'm not big on special characters anyways, but maybe some counts-as the dreadnought heroes could be fun.
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Jack B Nimble posted:Yes, it had (has, it's up Sunday), all the models. Too pricey then, I'll have to find another way to make the cultist kill team. Necromunda models make decent cultists.
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Fake James posted:Celestial Lions own bones, good choice. For_Great_Justice posted:Second the choice in Lions. Cool paint scheme, not awful monsters, neat fluff habits. Gives a lot to work with. I've decided that I'm going to mix in some female heads from Statuesque and justify them as being part of an experimental Primaris process (because honestly, if you could expand the pool of potential space marines, why wouldn't you?) that are being deployed as part of a lesser known, severely depleted chapter who are much less likely to kick up a fuss. Plus, you know, lions.
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I just wanted to get in on the Nurgle action, so here's the Kill Team I used the other day The Bubonic Bastards  Featured from left to right: Ebola Jones, The Kidney Clogger, The Big C and Lil Tumor, Thrush Tom, Puss-ball Peter, and Kevin
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In an Internet full of hot takes about the FAQ you may find yourself asking: “where can I find the best FAQ hot takes?” Look no further than goonhammer.com, for spicy and probably hilariously wrong opinions about changes coming to YOUR game. http://www.goonhammer.com/subdomains/forums/big-faq-thoughts-autumn-2018/
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I guess I still feel like it was a missed opportunity by GW not calling the GSC Guard allies “Band of Brooders”?
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Yvonmukluk posted:Hey, they were making a comeback even before the Primaris marines were being dished out like candy. Nice. They had a thing I liked in back story where they trade transport or other things an all they ask for is stories to retell in return.
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Speaking of Death Guard! Which base rim colour looks best? Black or various browns? Maybe I should try a grey?     Bonus WIP shot! 
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Schadenboner posted:I guess I still feel like it was a missed opportunity by GW not calling the GSC Guard allies “Band of Brooders”? "Band of Brooders" is more like a Krieg/Dark Angels nickname; I will accept "Band of Broodlings" tho and subsequently steal it for myself
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:That Armiger looks great. Thanks. They hunt in pairs. I’ll have shots of them all on the table tomorrow. 
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TheBigAristotle posted:Am I reading these rules correctly that Imperial Fists can ignore the new going-second 2 command point strategem? Yes, the opponent's units will NOT get cover against the Imperial Fists, even with the new stratagem.
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Sep 29, 2018 02:38
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Harkano posted:Speaking of Death Guard! Which base rim colour looks best? Steel Legion Drab. 
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WhiteWolf123 posted:Yes, the opponent's units will NOT get cover against the Imperial Fists, even with the new stratagem. If anything I’d say the benefit is very mild, considering the opponent skips spending the 2CP and doesn’t bother with non-LOS-blocking terrain cover anyway in the same way they would have previously. It’s a nice option against most armies, especially those with W10+ monsters and/or vehicles that normally wouldn’t get cover and gives you the benefit of freely forward-deploying.
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:Do any DG players have tips on how they tackle painting plague marines? You can still batch paint. Everyone has armor, and trim, and those weird porous balls. If you're really trucking one guy's guts can be the same pink as another guy's tongue or maw. Maggots can be the same sickly pallor as a Brundlehead. Here's my dude I have good pictures of. I started with a concrete grey basecolor and did like three layers of Athonian Camoshade then just did highlights and detail as normal.  
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