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Xand_Man
Mar 2, 2004

If what you say is true
Wutang might be dangerous


1) 3.50 is a reasonable price in Seattle for a non-poo poo chocolate bar.

2) Doing all my shopping with these bad boys now

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smarxist
Jul 26, 2018

by Fluffdaddy

Xand_Man posted:

1) 3.50 is a reasonable price in Seattle for a non-poo poo chocolate bar.

2) Doing all my shopping with these bad boys now



jesus, this one guy is going bug poo poo for everything, can we get more info on him?

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 29 days!)

Main Paineframe posted:

are you the one person on the planet who has never, ever seen a white person Demand To Speak To Someone's Manager?

having people who are paid to be other people's servants, even on a temporary basis, enables a lot of deeply hosed dynamics

Relations between service workers and customers are completely different in a socialist society because the worker's employment doesn't depend on whether or not people are "satisfied" with their service. Maybe they'll be "let go" from a firm or store, but the existential terror of destitution which enables that power disparity in market societies won't be there anymore.

DR FRASIER KRANG
Feb 4, 2005

"Are you forgetting that just this afternoon I was punched in the face by a turtle now dead?
this is why in Europe the waiters absolutely poo poo on you in some countries. it owns.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 29 days!)

HEY NONG MAN posted:

this is why in Europe the waiters absolutely poo poo on you in some countries. it owns.

There's also an old adage about how awful the service was in the Soviet Union because store clerks were so rude. If they don't depend on you to live then the dynamics are completely different.

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

There's also an old adage about how awful the service was in the Soviet Union because store clerks were so rude. If they don't depend on you to live then the dynamics are completely different.

i remember hearing this a lot reading about politics as a teen and now that ive been working fast food i find myself wondering how many dead ukranians is worth openly telling a customer to gently caress off

Main Paineframe
Oct 27, 2010

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Relations between service workers and customers are completely different in a socialist society because the worker's employment doesn't depend on whether or not people are "satisfied" with their service. Maybe they'll be "let go" from a firm or store, but the existential terror of destitution which enables that power disparity in market societies won't be there anymore.

that's fair. my thinking's been colored by the big expansion of the service economy in the US and the rise of the gig economy, and how so much service work basically boils down to getting shat on for minimum wage

it's still not the same as just engaging in ordinary social activities in public without any money changing hands, though. if people can't get their daily dose of social interaction without the existence of cashiers and receptionists, I feel like there's some deeper issue

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Main Paineframe posted:

are you the one person on the planet who has never, ever seen a white person Demand To Speak To Someone's Manager?

having people who are paid to be other people's servants, even on a temporary basis, enables a lot of deeply hosed dynamics

so how does the bad outliers make all such behavior wrong. is marriage wrong because some spouses are abusive?

Ommin
Apr 5, 2006
I like to watch CinemaSins and Honest Trailers for all the movies I'm curious about but don't want to watch. It's like Cliff's Notes with commentary notes to use in conversation to "prove you watched it."

Krankenstyle posted:

lol if you think emotions will exist in the future

humanity is going through rapid self selection: everyone in the present who has an emotion kills themself*

*) imo objectively the right thing to do knowing what we know

Didn't Camus say something about suicide being the only true philosophical question?

Serf
May 5, 2011


working several customer service jobs taught me to be very polite with other people in customer service

MonsieurChoc
Oct 12, 2013

Every species can smell its own extinction.
Empathy taught me to treat people as human beings.

DR FRASIER KRANG
Feb 4, 2005

"Are you forgetting that just this afternoon I was punched in the face by a turtle now dead?
shared experience is a hell of a drug

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slćgt skal fřlge slćgters gang



Ommin posted:

Didn't Camus say something about suicide being the only true philosophical question?

yea, he disagreed... thinks we should face the absurdity but honestly that's easy for him to say being dead for decades.

Carthag Tuek has issued a correction as of 06:22 on Sep 30, 2018

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slćgt skal fřlge slćgters gang



i do second the emotion motion though & think we should all the empathy path, and more on my self-help interactive cdrom

The Nastier Nate
May 22, 2005

All aboard the corona bus!

HONK! HONK!


Yams Fan

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

There's also an old adage about how awful the service was in the Soviet Union because store clerks were so rude. If they don't depend on you to live then the dynamics are completely different.

There’s a part in “The Dispossed” that addresses it that always stuck with me. In short if you never read it (and you should) the main character who was born in communist world, goes to captialist world and one of the things that surprises him is how much the store clerks have to kiss his rear end.

Carthag Tuek
Oct 15, 2005

Tider skal komme,
tider skal henrulle,
slćgt skal fřlge slćgters gang



thats a great book

also i cant believe that bullshit still has legs. last year, in an interview about like "my favorite hangouts", danish microbrew success story dude was like "I miss America. Staff are so unfriendly here in dk, they have no fear of getting fired or losing out on tips. I wish unions were not a thing and I don't understand the world." Paraphrased, but literal.

counterpoint: ive only met one unfriendly server and that was online

Milo and POTUS
Sep 3, 2017

I will not shut up about the Mighty Morphin Power Rangers. I talk about them all the time and work them into every conversation I have. I built a shrine in my room for the yellow one who died because sadly no one noticed because she died around 9/11. Wanna see it?

Socks4Hands posted:

i like my cyberpunk dystopia photographs like i like my sexual partners: boundless and bare

I really like that Moscow one that gets posted sometimes. Runner up is luxury condos/favelas

fabergay egg
Mar 1, 2012

it's not a rhetorical question, for politely saying 'you are an idiot, you don't know what you are talking about'


Ommin posted:

Didn't Camus say something about suicide being the only true philosophical question?

Albert Camus posted:

There is only one really serious philosophical question, and that is suicide. Judging whether life is or is not worth living amounts to answering the fundamental question of philosophy. All the rest— whether or not the world has three dimensions, whether the mind has nine or twelve categories—comes afterwards. These are games; one must first answer. And if it is true, as Nietzsche claims, that a philosopher, to deserve our respect, must preach by example, you can appreciate the importance of that reply, for it will precede the definitive act. These are facts the heart can feel; yet they call for careful study before they become clear to the intellect.

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

SlothfulCobra posted:

Congratulations, Amazon, you've invented the Automat. A big fancy invention from 1895.

That's the most disappointing part about this dystopian cyberpunk future, so many of the crazy sci fi innovations are just really really old ideas. The biggest of which being the steady slide towards feudalism.

When I first watched Dark City I didn't realize that a Automat was a real retro invention.

I thought it was just something they created for the bleak dystopian world shown in the film.

autism ZX spectrum
Feb 8, 2007

by Lowtax
Fun Shoe

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

There's also an old adage about how awful the service was in the Soviet Union because store clerks were so rude. If they don't depend on you to live then the dynamics are completely different.

I'm actually pretty sure the Soviet Union didn't cause European store staff to be awful, but it sure as poo poo didn't incentivize them to do otherwise. Eastern Europe restaurant and store staff are still surly, even the 2nd generation immigrant ones that set up shop wherever they emigrated to. I've been told that the customer service experience in Paris is godawful as well.

DR FRASIER KRANG
Feb 4, 2005

"Are you forgetting that just this afternoon I was punched in the face by a turtle now dead?
my buddy was just in Vienna and he said a waiter at a restaurant made fun of him when he asked where the bathroom was.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

(and can't post for 29 days!)

HEY NONG MAN posted:

my buddy was just in Vienna and he said a waiter at a restaurant made fun of him when he asked where the bathroom was.

aw does baby have to make a boom boom?

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

HEY NONG MAN posted:

my buddy was just in Vienna and he said a waiter at a restaurant made fun of him when he asked where the bathroom was.


RIP Wong Kei in London

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/wordofmouth/2014/feb/24/rudest-restaurant-london-wong-kei

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wong_Kei

Food Boner
Jul 2, 2005
i made the mistake of asking where the bathrooms in a parisian restaurant was in french

hackbunny
Jul 22, 2007

I haven't been on SA for years but the person who gave me my previous av as a joke felt guilty for doing so and decided to get me a non-shitty av
In Rome, everyone will make fun of you for any or no reason at all, all the time

Syd Midnight
Sep 23, 2005


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick%27s_Last_Resort

Americans paying a premium to receive extremely poor customer service for the sheer novelty of it. That's some late stage capitalism right there. :911:

quote:

In 1995, the company attempted to expand to Europe and opened a restaurant in London,[4] but the effort was abandoned and the restaurant was sold in early 1996.
There's a sequence of events that needs to be dramatized. I don't know if you could get an entire documentary out of that, but it'd be good for at least a 1 hour comedy special.

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Syd Midnight posted:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick%27s_Last_Resort

Americans paying a premium to receive extremely poor customer service for the sheer novelty of it. That's some late stage capitalism right there. :911:
There's a sequence of events that needs to be dramatized. I don't know if you could get an entire documentary out of that, but it'd be good for at least a 1 hour comedy special.

There's also the Weiner Circle

https://www.timeout.com/chicago/blog/the-wieners-circle-welcomes-donald-trump-with-3-inch-chicago-hot-dog-031016

Also Chicago gets bonus points for chasing Trump and his Chud supporters out of town.

quote:

Chicago will not let up on Donald Trump.

His billboards get vandalized in days, the University of Illinois is in an uproar over his speaking engagement and now the Wiener's Circle, one of Chicago's best hot dog stands, is offering Trump his very own special menu item—a 3-inch hot dog called the "Trump footlong," RedEye reports.

The Saucer Hovers
May 16, 2005

the moon is anarchist in the dispossessed

BULBASAUR
Apr 6, 2009




Soiled Meat

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

There's also an old adage about how awful the service was in the Soviet Union because store clerks were so rude. If they don't depend on you to live then the dynamics are completely different.

it was def true to some extent, but with it came no expectation whatever of making small talk or pretending you cared about the cashier

it took me a while to adjust and get over feeling stressed because I didn't want to talk in the checkout line

MizPiz
May 29, 2013

by Athanatos

Syd Midnight posted:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick%27s_Last_Resort

Americans paying a premium to receive extremely poor customer service for the sheer novelty of it. That's some late stage capitalism right there. :911:
There's a sequence of events that needs to be dramatized. I don't know if you could get an entire documentary out of that, but it'd be good for at least a 1 hour comedy special.

Honestly, it's actually kind of refreshing to have your server call you a dumbass and make fun of your order. Given that late-capitalism drowns you with the most transparently bullshit type of pleasantness imagineable, going to a restaurant where it's their policy to insult the customers is almost therapeutic.

Edit: clip is extremely relevant

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9PSg0sQyfs

MizPiz has issued a correction as of 22:24 on Sep 30, 2018

Ommin
Apr 5, 2006
I like to watch CinemaSins and Honest Trailers for all the movies I'm curious about but don't want to watch. It's like Cliff's Notes with commentary notes to use in conversation to "prove you watched it."

hackbunny posted:

In Rome, everyone will make fun of you for any or no reason at all, all the time

So they were laughing at me! The wife said I was being paranoid. I just wanted more than 3 cubes of ice for my water!

jimmyjams
Jan 10, 2001


King Kong of Megadongs
Gobblin' them mega schlongs
Makin' sure they mega long
Stroke' 'em if they mega strong

got any sevens posted:

stores for decades have already altered layouts based on shopping patterns. it's why milk is usually in the back, for example

does this mean that under socialism. milk and bread will finally, after all these long years of capitalist manipulation, be in the front

Stairmaster
Jun 8, 2012

Yes

Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



why do they put milk in the back. obviously they want someone who's just coming for milk to walk by everything else and decide to grab something else but why do that with milk and not like coffee or beer

DR FRASIER KRANG
Feb 4, 2005

"Are you forgetting that just this afternoon I was punched in the face by a turtle now dead?
oh let’s do this derail hell yeah

“it’s because the cold storage has to be in the back because of how the store is built”

or

“the trucks load in the back of the store and the cold stuff should be right there”

SlothfulCobra
Mar 27, 2011

Honestly it's waiters that get the worst deal labor-wise, because they're the ones who get half their pay dangled in front of them and rely on the kindness and social mores of strangers to be paid properly for their labor.

HEY NONG MAN posted:

oh let’s do this derail hell yeah

“it’s because the cold storage has to be in the back because of how the store is built”

or

“the trucks load in the back of the store and the cold stuff should be right there”

People have been complaining about this alleged scheme to lure shoppers to the back of the store with precious milk for so long that stores have started putting mini-cold storage towards the front of the store.

jimmyjams
Jan 10, 2001


King Kong of Megadongs
Gobblin' them mega schlongs
Makin' sure they mega long
Stroke' 'em if they mega strong
iirc its literally to force people to walk to the back so they see all the poo poo and buy more stuff

DR FRASIER KRANG
Feb 4, 2005

"Are you forgetting that just this afternoon I was punched in the face by a turtle now dead?
it presumes everyone wants milk

that poo poo makes my butt spew water

Pidgin Englishman
Apr 30, 2007

If you shoot
you better hit your mark
It's the canadian milk cartel's gravitational pull on milk production influencing store feung Shi.

Id explain, but it's complicated 4d chess.

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Peanut President
Nov 5, 2008

by Athanatos
at my grocery store the milk is in the front next to produce? maybe shop somewhere other than walmart???

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