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Given how much stress they apparently suffer being representatives of a powerful hegemonic class that has immense temporal authority, I have to wonder how fast these people would completely shatter if they were ever actually oppressed.
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Night10194 posted:Given how much stress they apparently suffer being representatives of a powerful hegemonic class that has immense temporal authority, I have to wonder how fast these people would completely shatter if they were ever actually oppressed. They tend to think of the world as a zero sum game. Giving minorities rights by definition means you're [somehow] taking rights away from the majority. Taking womens' stories of sexual assault seriously and persecuting their attackers by definition means you're oppressing men. The idea of a win-win situation is foreign to them. There's a serious strain of "You're either loving or getting hosed" in American culture and especially political thought that a lot of people are very afraid to grapple with. https://i.imgur.com/qXrRxAk.mp4
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Sep 29, 2018 16:13
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There are certainly days (and these past few have been among them) where the admonition to love one's enemies is very difficult.
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Sep 29, 2018 16:21
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slimy hog and other internetodox who want something to listen to, this podcast is pretty good. if i find this priest's email address i might even write to him to ask him for concrete directions on how to deal with ambition, which is one of my greatest sins. https://doxalpha.wordpress.com/2014/12/04/fr-peter-alban-heers-more-than-a-village-it-takes-a-family/ When I say that I am trying to be a "traditional" or "conservative" Orthodox, people like this priest are what I mean. Unless he turns out to have terrible views on something I haven't seen, I've been burned by the Internet before.
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Night10194 posted:Given how much stress they apparently suffer being representatives of a powerful hegemonic class that has immense temporal authority, I have to wonder how fast these people would completely shatter if they were ever actually oppressed. It's also a massively sheltered upbringing and white/christian/often male privilege. They think that their lovely upper middle class problems are equal to actual persecution. At least, that's my suspicion, as it seems the only way they can so casually vote for legislation abusing others.
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Sep 29, 2018 17:28
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https://twitter.com/chIoroplast/status/1046106523594887168
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Sep 29, 2018 21:37
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This chap's got calvinism's number alright.
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Sep 29, 2018 21:38
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Night10194 posted:This chap's got calvinism's number alright. and look at all the salty catholics complaining about us in the responses
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Sep 29, 2018 21:40
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Not sure I get the Baptist one. In my experience, Baptists about niche theological topics tend to go with that Catholic answer, "Who told you you could think independently about your beliefs?," deeming it irrelevant, or if it's something actually interesting, inviting you to a local coffee shop to talk. https://i.imgur.com/nwwVowi.mp4
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I decided to get a new e-Bible when I came into a small amount of money so I got an NIV Study Bible. I've been reading The Message for years so it's interesting to re-read the Bible in a different voice. The supplemental material is often interesting but the editorial content tries to straddle a weird line between traditional and modern interpretations of things. I'm still in the books of Moses and they're kinda like 'Yeah Moses totally wrote these (except for the parts that reference events after he died, and the part that talks about how humble he was) Or when it's talking about the plagues of Egypt it says the Nile turning to blood could be an over abundance of red sediment, but then we get to the killing of the firstborn and naturalistic explanations go out the window. If the events happened as described there's no reason to think the Nile turning to blood was any less supernatural in nature than God selectively killing Egypt's firstborn.
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Sep 30, 2018 09:30
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reminds me of this http://orthodoxinfo.com/phronema/review_osb.aspx which tries to appeal to other christian religions as well as being orthodox, and kinda fails at it
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Night10194 posted:This chap's got calvinism's number alright. the one that says do not rape is irrelevant i guess beware woke catholic twitter and left catholic twitter HEY GUNS fucked around with this message at 12:38 on Sep 30, 2018 |
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Sep 30, 2018 12:08
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tfw you only now realize that maximos the confessor and makarios the great were two different people
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HEY GUNS posted:i scrolled down and everyone on his twitter is ok with cavanaugh because they believe he can help establish a society in which everyone lives by catholic sexual laws No society has ever existed in which everyone lives by Catholic sexual laws. Including the Catholic Church. https://i.imgur.com/LpRXdlw.mp4 Cythereal fucked around with this message at 16:02 on Sep 30, 2018 |
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Sep 30, 2018 15:47
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Cythereal posted:No society has ever existed in which everyone lives by Catholic sexual laws. Including the Catholic Church. https://twitter.com/smalwigwamlight/status/1046085689358655488 the "political transformation of society" HEY GUNS fucked around with this message at 16:19 on Sep 30, 2018 |
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Well, that’s completely terrifying.
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Sep 30, 2018 16:24
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All I'll say is a whole lot of these people better really hope us Universalists are right or they're gonna have a hell of a surprise waiting at eternity.
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Empress Theonora posted:Well, that’s completely terrifying. also to the catholics who keep appropriating the names of byzantine emperors to talk about how much you want someone to persecute us as heretics, i see you
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Sep 30, 2018 16:26
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HEY GUNS posted:this guy doesn't care what kavanaugh does in his life, he only cares what he will legally enforce. one law for him, a much harsher one for the rest of us ive been saying that this is basically just catholic leninism for a while now
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Night10194 posted:All I'll say is a whole lot of these people better really hope us Universalists are right or they're gonna have a hell of a surprise waiting at eternity. 
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StashAugustine posted:ive been saying that this is basically just catholic leninism for a while now also, how much did lenin hate queer people
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HEY GUNS posted:as an Orthodox i am required to believe that these people are doing the best they can and that only I, HEGEL, am the first of sinners I know I should do the same, I just really, really struggle with it. I've always been a pretty hot-headed and angry person. I think it's the flip side of anxiety.
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Night10194 posted:I know I should do the same, I just really, really struggle with it. I've always been a pretty hot-headed and angry person. It's a lifelong process, dealing with the passions. Before weird Protestants coopted the term, that's what "spiritual warfare" means.
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Night10194 posted:I know I should do the same, I just really, really struggle with it. I've always been a pretty hot-headed and angry person. The downside to this approach is, I've never been able to move past this step. My primary struggle with my passions is with depression and despair. I've always been intensely critical of myself, to the extent that friends and family have often commented that I'm harsher on myself than anyone they know. I still remember with perfect clarity moments of embarrassing myself in elementary school. This can be a good first step, but take it with caution. https://i.imgur.com/62nzuHV.mp4
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HEY GUNS posted:also to the catholics who keep appropriating the names of byzantine emperors to talk about how much you want someone to persecute us as heretics, i see you What if they go by "Julianus"?
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Epicurius posted:What if they go by "Julianus"? dont doxx me
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HEY GUNS posted:dont doxx me <shakes his fist> Thou hast conquered, Hey Guns!
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If you ever wondered what literally hundreds of nuns shaking it to the tunes of a Polish cover band looked like then boy, are you in luck today! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNwGjyay954  I kinda also like the alternative version here, though  :https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRZQEkLjt8I e: here is some more footage from a different concert (same event though) System Metternich fucked around with this message at 19:16 on Sep 30, 2018 |
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Night10194 posted:I know I should do the same, I just really, really struggle with it. I've always been a pretty hot-headed and angry person. speaking of orthodox image macros, this is one of my favorites 
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so i really upset someone the other day by asking about the necessity of the crucifixion in frankly insensitive terms, and i'd like to educate myself can anyone recommend a good explanation of Catholic soteriology for a layman
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:so i really upset someone the other day by asking about the necessity of the crucifixion in frankly insensitive terms, and i'd like to educate myself orthodox: christ died, went to hell, and trashed the place. then he beat up satan.
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e: nevermind, pretty much all I had to do to answer this question was open the summa theologica
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Specifically, Jesus didn't pay instead of us paying, because us being crucified wouldn't have accomplished anything. In order to make reparations for the first sin, the one that infected all of us, a priest had to perfectly offer a perfect sacrifice, but we can't do things perfectly and didn't have anything perfect to offer anyway. So Jesus offered himself. Problem solved. (This does not mean that after this sacrifice he didn't beat up Satan and steal
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Any theology that tries to cut out the Harrowing of Hell is a sad theology I want no part in.
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Night10194 posted:Any theology that tries to cut out the Harrowing of Hell is a sad theology I want no part in. Fortunately it’s in the Apostle’s Creed.
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:so i really upset someone the other day by asking about the necessity of the crucifixion in frankly insensitive terms, and i'd like to educate myself That's actually an interesting question I've often debated in myself. God is omnipotent, and could have atoned for our sins any way he wanted to. It wasn't strictly necessary that Christ was crucified and resurrected, but it's how God chose to do things, for reasons we can only guess at. I suspect it was for our benefit, that we needed to see a man killed horribly and be resurrected anyway. God wanted to demonstrate his power over death in the most graphic form possible.
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Ok, what heresy is this? https://local.theonion.com/casual-christian-accepts-christ-as-his-lord-but-not-his-1829440243 Also, is there a thread opinion on Jacques Maritain? I picked up a book about him and his thoughts on Christians in a democracy. Looked interesting but it turned out to be quotes of his cherry-picked from a variety of his writings. Is Maritain worth reading? ALSO, my next chemo round is tomorrow. Please give me your intentions so I can pray on them while I'm sitting.
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Pershing posted:ALSO, my next chemo round is tomorrow. Please give me your intentions so I can pray on them while I'm sitting. Prayers for you. Please pray for my aunt, S., and cousin, A., as they try to find their new normal after my uncle’s, B., death.
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Pershing posted:
I'm going to be selfish and ask that you pray for me. I fail in patience and in love more often than I'd like to. My father is very ill and it's wearing me down. I could use some strength.
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