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nerdz posted:yellow Bolsonaro balloon So, Bolsonaro is Brazilian Macri then? Why is it always yellow?
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So that was a shitload of people anti-Bolsonaro here in São Paulo just now lmao
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Dias posted:The pro-Bolsonaro manifestations always happen close to malls in the posh part of town, I heard people heading towards Parco here in Porto Alegre. Every evening around rush hour they're on that walkway over Av Goethe. I'd like to see them having the balls to do their ruckus on Vila Cruzeiro's main avenue.
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Pochoclo posted:So, Bolsonaro is Brazilian Macri then? Why is it always yellow? More like Brazilian Duterte with a healthy dose of Trump.
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Sep 30, 2018 00:23
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Negrostrike posted:Every evening around rush hour they're on that walkway over Av Goethe. As if, they go to Moinhos because they know they can't do poo poo anywhere else.
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Sep 30, 2018 01:43
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Sephyr posted:More like Brazilian Duterte with a healthy dose of Trump. Exactly I guess Doria would be Macri
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Sep 30, 2018 14:24
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Elias_Maluco posted:Exactly That's very accurate. Though even Macri is not such an overtly fake, plastic empty suit. He at least finished a term, for what it was worth, before asking his drones to boost him higher so he could -really- clear out the commies this time. Doria is like a 4-year-old who gets bored easily and -needs- you to get him his next new toy.
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Sephyr posted:That's very accurate. Though even Macri is not such an overtly fake, plastic empty suit. He at least finished a term, for what it was worth, before asking his drones to boost him higher so he could -really- clear out the commies this time. Doria is like a 4-year-old who gets bored easily and -needs- you to get him his next new toy. Was Macri supposed to clear out the commies ? can't believe they've bungled that as well
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Ghost of Mussolini posted:Was Macri supposed to clear out the commies ? can't believe they've bungled that as well I haven't followed up on local politics as much as I should, med school eating me alive and such. But it seems that chasing the Kirchners and their supporters became a weird snipe hunt of trying to get the vilest judges they can find to arrest them for bizarre poo poo like connections with Iran terror cells rather than the meat-and-potatoes kickbacks that every politician does and this can explode back upon your allies.
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Sephyr posted:I haven't followed up on local politics as much as I should, med school eating me alive and such. But it seems that chasing the Kirchners and their supporters became a weird snipe hunt of trying to get the vilest judges they can find to arrest them for bizarre poo poo like connections with Iran terror cells rather than the meat-and-potatoes kickbacks that every politician does and this can explode back upon your allies. I feel like all of that bizarre stuff has been dropped quite a bit, the whole Nisman saga has seemingly disappeared entirely idk if they have nothing or if they're saving it for closer to the election. They're going after the notebooks and such now (but not any actual structural issues related to corruption). I don't really ascribe any more malicious intent than what the Kirchnerists were doing when they got to play around with judges. ~ Peronismo de buenos modales ~
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Ghost of Mussolini posted:I feel like all of that bizarre stuff has been dropped quite a bit, the whole Nisman saga has seemingly disappeared entirely idk if they have nothing or if they're saving it for closer to the election. They're going after the notebooks and such now (but not any actual structural issues related to corruption). I don't really ascribe any more malicious intent than what the Kirchnerists were doing when they got to play around with judges. I thought I read a few weeks ago that they found inconsistencies in Largomasino's statements regarding some messages between him and Nisman and he was beginning to be in deeper trouble.
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Sephyr posted:I haven't followed up on local politics as much as I should, med school eating me alive and such. But it seems that chasing the Kirchners and their supporters became a weird snipe hunt of trying to get the vilest judges they can find to arrest them for bizarre poo poo like connections with Iran terror cells rather than the meat-and-potatoes kickbacks that every politician does and this can explode back upon your allies. Thats what I expect to happen if the disgusting captain wins: he will persecute PT and the whole left in any way he can. Only is probably gonna be worst, wider, and more violent than what Macri did
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Elias_Maluco posted:Thats what I expect to happen if the disgusting captain wins: he will persecute PT and the whole left in any way he can. Only is probably gonna be worst, wider, and more violent than what Macri did To be fair, that is happening either way. If he loses, outraged supporters are definitely going to explode in some way, and those with even a modicum of power will just go hog-wild on anything the consider 'progressive'. If he wins, persecuting the minorities and 'commies' will not be an unspoke rule but one decreed loudly from the rooftops, to only the mild disapproval of "Well, this is certainly not orthodox or polite, harrumph" big press editorials. Hell, the loon owner of Havan stores has literally released a video about how he is polling his employees and basically forcing them to vote for Bolsonazi. Publicly.
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Oct 1, 2018 16:49
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Sephyr posted:To be fair, that is happening either way. If he loses, outraged supporters are definitely going to explode in some way, and those with even a modicum of power will just go hog-wild on anything the consider 'progressive'. I agree. Thats why we have to vote to try to prevent his victory, and be prepared to what will come with his defeat 2019 is gonna be an ugly, dangerous year
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Oct 1, 2018 17:05
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Hah, the people here are far more gormless and cowardly than in any other country. There will be grumbling on facebook and maybe some minor clashes or unrest but if we didn't had an actual civil war the last century why should we now?
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Oct 1, 2018 17:23
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I believe some people will feel entitled to abuse minorities, LGBTQ people and whatever verbally and physically in public though, should Bolsonaro wins. Not an all out pogrom, obviously, but kinda like what's been happening in the US since Trump's election. If he loses, waaah and boohoos all around the social networks.
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Oct 1, 2018 17:26
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We already have a shitload of cases of gay and transexual lynching and the racism has been increasing the last decade, you actually think it can get any worse?
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Plutonis posted:We already have a shitload of cases of gay and transexual lynching and the racism has been increasing the last decade, you actually think it can get any worse? You think it can't?
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Plutonis posted:We already have a shitload of cases of gay and transexual lynching and the racism has been increasing the last decade, you actually think it can get any worse? Oh, you bet, my friend.
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Oct 1, 2018 17:32
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Plutonis posted:Hah, the people here are far more gormless and cowardly than in any other country. There will be grumbling on facebook and maybe some minor clashes or unrest but if we didn't had an actual civil war the last century why should we now? I do hope so. But we did had a long, cruel military dictatorship And so many people are screaming for another one so loud and so repeatedly, that the military might end up doing something about it edit: and if the Boçal loses to PT, you can bet we are at least gonna have another round of huge anti-PT protests, and lots of unrest. And then all the military needs to do, if they feel like it, is to come forward saying order needs to be restored etc. It happened before, and the climate is just right to happen again Elias_Maluco fucked around with this message at 17:43 on Oct 1, 2018 |
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Oct 1, 2018 17:38
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Plutonis posted:Hah, the people here are far more gormless and cowardly than in any other country. There will be grumbling on facebook and maybe some minor clashes or unrest but if we didn't had an actual civil war the last century why should we now? Because we never had a candidate openly justify and encourage violence (to general applause of the learned 'elite')? Because there is no longer a fig leaf of "we're not enemies, we just disagree on policy!" on the side of money/power? Because the institutions have never been so thoroughly discredited in at least 80 years, and were never that robust to begin with? Because evangelical presencei n politics has never been this massive or organized, literally painting the opositionas demonic and sinful, and it's only going to get stronger? Brazilians are indeed gormeless and lazy when it comes to punching up, but are -notoriously- happy to kick weaker/acceptable targets.
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Oct 1, 2018 17:45
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If you were unsure about just how far they will go to prevent PT from getting to power: - Last friday the supreme court blocked an interview with Lula because they said that this close to the election it may influence the results - Today Moro released the transcripts of the questioning of Palloci done months ago, who in exchange for a deal for leniency made a bunch of accusations against PT.
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Oct 1, 2018 19:38
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Moro is playing a dangerous game, he has far more to lose in a Bolsonaro presidency surely. Is he trying to get Ciro to the second round?
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Oct 2, 2018 04:23
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What would Moro have to lose if Bolsonaro won?
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Oct 2, 2018 04:32
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Bolsonaro wins overwhelmingly in the white, male, upper-class, highly educated demo. Now look at Moro. That's all I'm gonna say. If you kiss enough rear end you're safe.
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Oct 2, 2018 04:32
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Because surely the judiciary would make a ripe scapegoat when it becomes apparent that Mito can't really deliver anything he promises. Dias posted:If you kiss enough rear end you're safe.
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Oct 2, 2018 04:35
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So there was a cosplay thing here on the #elenao act this saturday, I'm conflicted. On one hand it's cosplay, and cosplay's loving stupid. But, the theme seems appropriate given context.
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Oct 2, 2018 04:39
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hoiyes posted:Because surely the judiciary would make a ripe scapegoat when it becomes apparent that Mito can't really deliver anything he promises. Moro isn't a justice. He's just a federal judge, first instance. That's the kinda dude that won't get scapegoated and might see an opportunity to ascend to the Supreme Court eventually by kissing enough rear end. edit: also the cosplay is good, and cosplay is okay, we have a state holiday for cosplaying even!
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Oct 2, 2018 04:44
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I'm not sure if it's cosplay necessarily, that iconography has been jacked from the show as a protest symbol by quite a few people in the states
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Scaramouche posted:I'm not sure if it's cosplay necessarily, that iconography has been jacked from the show as a protest symbol by quite a few people in the states What's the show?
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Oct 2, 2018 05:25
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hoiyes posted:Because surely the judiciary would make a ripe scapegoat when it becomes apparent that Mito can't really deliver anything he promises. I have zero doubt Bolsonaro could just keep blaming the PT and the media would go for it
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Oct 2, 2018 05:30
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Cup Runneth Over posted:What's the show? The Handmaid’s Tale.
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Oct 2, 2018 07:15
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bagual posted:So, Ciro Gomes X Haddad, pros and cons A bit late but while Ciro is a completely untrustworthy snake that has no real principles other than personal ambition, he IS a very good administrator and statesman and him and his brother were the best governors that my state had.
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Sometimes I feel these smaller but relevant (Ciro, Marina, Meirelles, arguably Alvaro Dias and Amoedo) candidates are like candidates for minister, sharing the same malleable nature somewhat, except for Alckmin, who is still in denial over the fact PSDB is never getting the presidency again, and the tiny tiny ant candidates, which is everybody else
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Oct 3, 2018 04:52
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It is pretty hilarious that at the end of the day PSDB's support wasn't "competent and sober governance with free-market characteristics" as they and their followers in previous elections claimed to be, but rather being the protagonists of "anti-left" sentiment.
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Oct 3, 2018 11:01
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It's been an open secret for more than adecade now, though. After bunglers like Serra dumping the city and state state of São Paulo TWICE, then Doria breaking a vow he signed on paper to finish his term and taking a dump on PSDB's voters after his crappy year in power. People from my state (SP) loved to think of the northeast as a corral of ignorant people voting as they were told, but it's been a bit of a balm to my soul to see how obvious it became that they would vote for any loon that claimed to be anti-PT enough, even if their lives became -materially- worse. São Paulo is the brazilian Kansas, except in Kansas politicians at least stay around after they gently caress you. In SP they wipe their dicks on your curtain and ditch you for higher office before even lighting up a cigarette.
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Oct 3, 2018 14:40
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Does this make Curitiba the reverse Minnesota?
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Oct 3, 2018 19:08
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Fujimori is going back to jail, sometimes Latin America can have nice things happen twice despite itself.
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zocio posted:Fujimori is going back to jail, sometimes Latin America can have nice things happen twice despite itself. Except then you remember Videla, basically Argentina's own Hitler, spent only about 5 years in prison before he got pardoned (by Menem who has also managed to stay relatively free), and then enjoyed freedom until he was 80+ and all the other myriad cases like that, and you kinda lose faith in the whole system
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Haven't noticed these guys are using Pepe the Frog posters. Yep, not nazis at all.
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