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fuctifino
Jun 11, 2001

Keyboard stand arrived way too early today. It meant that I had it installed before I'd even finished my first covfefe. Hello microkeyboards and eventual stand space for the Eigenharp Tau.



And the chaos from above, showing nearly everything I own and have bought over the past ~10 years. I've decided to use the nanoKontrol2 instead of the Swissonic88 sliders, as my system is already configured to use it. I've also added my old Korg nanopad2 just below the Akai MPD. I hope to have this mostly wired up and working by the end of the day, but I might collapse before then.

fuctifino fucked around with this message at 12:35 on Oct 2, 2018

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The Gasmask
Nov 30, 2006

Breaking fingers like fractals
Hey fuctifino, just noticed your Variax post from earlier in Sept.

What do you think of the thing? Been using a variax myself for a decade now, still using my original Variax 300 (you can kinda see it on the pic of my hanging guitars, on the inner left wall).

The only thing that’s bummed me a little is that the piezos are starting to wear, and the tracking isn’t as good as it used to be.

Looking to eventually pick up one of the baritone Variaxes, as I tried baritone strings on mine but anything above around a .56 couldn’t produce a note on the lowest saddle. Considering one of my tones on it is a drop-B setup, the bad tracking has ruined my ability to palm mute, and now I have to switch to a real guitar if I want to play low :(

fuctifino
Jun 11, 2001

The Gasmask posted:

Hey fuctifino, just noticed your Variax post from earlier in Sept.

What do you think of the thing?

For the price, I think it's amazing for the range of sounds it offers. I got my Variax Standard for £399 from Andertons (great company!), and on credit too (suckers!). It didn't need much setting up, and I've liked loving around with banjo and sitar quite a lot. I'm not a Jimi Hendrix guitarist, and don't know chords, so I don't know how it compares to other electric guitars. I have the FirehawkFX too, which really allows me to utilise the guitar... i.e. there will be lots of string retunings on the fly so that i don't have to finger chords and things. I also get a really good and natural bass sound out of it too. So as far as musical opportunities per £££, the Variax has been one of my best purchases to date imo.

The Gasmask
Nov 30, 2006

Breaking fingers like fractals

fuctifino posted:

I don't know how it compares to other electric guitars.

Very cool, glad to hear you’re liking it! I’ve been pimping the line out since I got it, but most people just see it as a gimmick. Even when they play it and realize “oh, this thing sounds fine”, there’s still the purist nonsense that prevents them from saying it’s cool or good, and instead they can only focus on how it doesn’t magically switch scale length and woods and weight when you switch instruments.

But man, it’s cool and good! The new ones are definitely more full-featured, but what I’m most curious about is the sound quality. I’m assuming there have been some major hardware and software updates on the Variax system since version 1. Hearing how inexpensive that one was makes me kinda want to upgrade, as it’s near what I paid for mine.

Build-quality-wise, there was a saying about the Variax 300 that it was $300 of electronics in a $200 guitar. That’s pretty accurate, but here’s the thing - all it needs is to play fine. Doesn’t need to feel like a specific guitar, just needs to have good action and decent relief. And the 300 was exactly that, a perfectly decent cheap guitar with amazing electronics inside.

For a point of comparison, the Variax was better build quality (going based on action, weight, susceptibility to humidity, etc) than a Squier strat, Epiphone Les Paul Standard, Ibanez Gio, and some Yamaha superstrat. Was also on par with some of the lowmid Ibanez, and maybe a little under Agile (though Agile is the best bang for $ imo, and it will take a lot for anyone to beat them).

One idea I’ve had is just building a new guitar around the electronics - I have a couple thousand year old salvaged burled redwood top, ash body, and bubinga fretboard wood that I haven’t done anything with, so I could make a really fancy looking instrument out of this.

Though tbh I’ll probably save the top and fingerboard wood for something else once I’ve gotten more practice, I’m not a luthier so I don’t want to make mistakes on some really unique woods.

fuctifino
Jun 11, 2001

I can understand why purists won't like the Variax, i.e. the modelled D20 sounds nothing like a real D20... Same with the banjo and sitar etc. But I've never been an audiophile, and I focus on what it can sound like and what it can do, rather than what it can't. Not having any kind of reference point when it comes to guitars helps I guess.

If you build your own guitar with a variax pickup, please make sure you also add a sustaniac ;)

e: this kind of technology has come a long way since my old DG20 (which I got ~30 years ago)


e: vvv That's a lovely guitar collection. I have a poo poo load of different ukes and a Haley Benton 5 string fretless bass that I've picked up over the past couple of years. I'll take a photo of them when I get the studio corner tidied up a bit.

fuctifino fucked around with this message at 18:43 on Oct 2, 2018

The Gasmask
Nov 30, 2006

Breaking fingers like fractals
Haha, that thing is wild! Early emulation was such a weird, Wild West.

I think Line6 even says this in the manual, that the Variax is intended to mimic the “feel” of the emulated instruments, not be an exact clone. That’s how I’ve approached it anyways.

Though I’ve had some of the instruments it emulates, and the Variax is pretty drat close. Good example is the 1967 Epiphone Casino model. I have a 1967 Gibson ES330, which is the same overall guitar as the Casino, and the Variax model captures pretty much all the key sounds that make the tone... except the noise. Which is great when you’re recording, but on its own makes it a little easier to tell them apart.
Not that I’d want the hum+feedback+static in the background, but it’s the area where the Variax (understandably) does its own thing.



Here’s an old pic of my guitars (from 2013). I no longer have the Douglas 6 string bass, the mini-acoustic, or the Ibanez s1520. What’s missing from photo is Oakland Axe Factory custom, Ibanez m80m, Agile 8 string acoustic, and Gibson L130 acoustic.
Need to do another photo like this, but I don’t have the room anymore, lol.

fuctifino
Jun 11, 2001



Final completed console. 3 tiers of keyboards & 2 trigger pads controlling separate VSTs (from EW's Composercloud), with volume and pan for the VSTs controlled by the nanoKontrol2. The variax has yet to be plugged in.

Also in picture, a monitor I picked up for £25 on a local FB group, a cheap monitor clamp stand that I got a while back, a Neewer cheap as gently caress microphone on a cheap as gently caress chinese mic clamp, and a Fire 7 inch tablet that I rooted and installed the FirehawkFX app on a cheap as gently caress mobile arm clamp.

Now it's time to collapse. I literally have £0.28 to my name now. lol. But I get paid in under 2 hours, so it's all good.

:smug:

e: vvv thanks

I did a video explaining the ins and outs of the switched off studio, what everything does and why it's where it is. Now it's built, I have to leave it switched off until I recover a bit of health. That's the hard part. lol. https://www.facebook.com/SoloStringProject/videos/2095072914076297/

fuctifino fucked around with this message at 14:42 on Oct 3, 2018

Dr. Faustus
Feb 18, 2001

Grimey Drawer

fuctifino posted:



Final completed console. 3 tiers of keyboards & 2 trigger pads controlling separate VSTs (from EW's Composercloud), with volume and pan for the VSTs controlled by the nanoKontrol2. The variax has yet to be plugged in.

Also in picture, a monitor I picked up for £25 on a local FB group, a cheap monitor clamp stand that I got a while back, a Neewer cheap as gently caress microphone on a cheap as gently caress chinese mic clamp, and a Fire 7 inch tablet that I rooted and installed the FirehawkFX app on a cheap as gently caress mobile arm clamp.

Now it's time to collapse. I literally have £0.28 to my name now. lol. But I get paid in under 2 hours, so it's all good.

:smug:
Thy name is commitment. Amazing work. Now go and do no evil.

Sweaty IT Nerd
Jul 13, 2007

I got the Hotone Mojo Diamond. It's roughly the same size as the mini wah and sounds pretty good. It's a pretty loud 5W solid state and while the headroom is clean there is some character there.

Imgur is being a butt but I got an Epi LP with the veneer top as well. I like it.

Sweaty IT Nerd fucked around with this message at 16:21 on Oct 6, 2018

BDA
Dec 10, 2007

Extremely grim and evil.
This li'l guy's smaller than I expected. (Also it has a blue LED that's brighter than the sun.)

fuctifino
Jun 11, 2001



I took the plunge and ordered the new(ish) Chieftan V5 low D tuneable whistle. The V5's are only available directly from Phil, the maker, and are £99 for the non tuneable and £140 for the tuneable versions. They sound amazing on the videos that I've watched. It should be with me any day now :)

http://kerrywhistles.com/product-category/whistles/chieftain-v5/

e: And she's just turned up, and sounds incredible. It sounds very similar to the original Overton low D whistles, and has a beautiful rasp. The mouthpiece is a work of art.

fuctifino fucked around with this message at 16:08 on Oct 19, 2018

Dang It Bhabhi!
May 27, 2004



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fuctifino posted:



I took the plunge and ordered the new(ish) Chieftan V5 low D tuneable whistle. The V5's are only available directly from Phil, the maker, and are £99 for the non tuneable and £140 for the tuneable versions. They sound amazing on the videos that I've watched. It should be with me any day now :)

http://kerrywhistles.com/product-category/whistles/chieftain-v5/

:black101:

Dewgy
Nov 10, 2005

~🚚special delivery~📦
Finally bit the bullet on a Tele. Had my eye on one of the Slick hand-aged plain wood ones from GFS for a while, they were having a sale...

And I went for a seafoam Xaviere instead since it was cheaper and had nicer pickups, Kwikplugs, and a coil split. :v:


Lester Shy
May 1, 2002

Goodness no, now that wouldn't do at all!
^^^ I'm interested in how this plays/sounds. I'm in the market for a knock-off Tele (or an MIM if I ever saw a cheap one) and I've heard Xavieres are pretty good. Right now I'm leaning towards a G&L.

Dang It Bhabhi!
May 27, 2004



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Lester Shy posted:

^^^ I'm interested in how this plays/sounds. I'm in the market for a knock-off Tele (or an MIM if I ever saw a cheap one) and I've heard Xavieres are pretty good. Right now I'm leaning towards a G&L.

I wouldn’t exactly call a G&L a “knock-off” ;).

Dewgy
Nov 10, 2005

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Lester Shy posted:

^^^ I'm interested in how this plays/sounds. I'm in the market for a knock-off Tele (or an MIM if I ever saw a cheap one) and I've heard Xavieres are pretty good. Right now I'm leaning towards a G&L.

I’ll post a trip report, though the reason there’s a sale is because they’re moving, so nothing goes out til the 22nd. If you needed some poo poo from GFS though it’s a universal 20% off coupon.

The Science Goy
Mar 27, 2007

Where did you learn to drive?

Dang It Bhabhi! posted:

I wouldn’t exactly call a G&L a “knock-off” ;).

It's not like the "L" stands for Leo Fender :jerkbag:

After The War
Apr 12, 2005

to all of my Architects
let me be traitor

The Science Goy posted:

It's not like the "L" stands for Leo Fender :jerkbag:

To be fair, Leo hated the idea of reusing old designs and G&L rushed the original run into production while he was on vacation. Leo grudgingly accepted the body shape as long as it had his new pickup designs, which were what he was mostly focused on at that point, anyway.

Dang It Bhabhi!
May 27, 2004



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They're more Fender to me than Fender. They are still on the original Fender Ave. in Fullerton.

fuctifino
Jun 11, 2001



Hopefully this is the last thing that I'm going to be buying for a while. It's a Palmer DMS dynamic mic switcher. I'm going to be using it as a mute switch rather than a switcher, so that I can leave the mic volume permanently set on the RC-505 looper, and use my feet to punch the mic in and out.

e: vvv <3 Thank you :)

fuctifino fucked around with this message at 10:37 on Oct 22, 2018

Wark Say
Feb 22, 2013

by Fluffdaddy
Hey fuctifino, no comment on the mic switcher, but I must confess: You're one of the few reasons I still go into facebook. Thanks for your dang beautiful music. :3:

Rugoberta Munchu
Jun 5, 2003

Do you want a hupyrolysege slcorpselong?

Lester Shy posted:

^^^ I'm interested in how this plays/sounds. I'm in the market for a knock-off Tele (or an MIM if I ever saw a cheap one) and I've heard Xavieres are pretty good.
I have a Xaviere tele thinline and the fingerboard was Gibson flat while retaining the Fender string spacing which made chords uncomfortable, especially at the first few frets. Also the Dream 180 pickups were pretty meh in that body.

It took some fiddling to so it since Xaviere fit and finish is iffy but I had the neck swapped out for a Mexican Fender that I got cheap. It feels infinitely better to play now and the PAF-sized Dream 180s then got replaced with a set of Seymour Duncan Pearly Gates. The factory tone control may be next to go since the pickups, despite being amazing, sound pretty blah the instant I pull on the coil split knob.

Sweaty IT Nerd
Jul 13, 2007

I got this a while ago



And I just got this today to copy landgrabber


It's me. I have all the copies of expensive guitars.

gbs but from 2004
Oct 24, 2004

wow u rude pig

"i STarTed this TOIlEt Of A tHreaD aNd HAve sOmEHOW aVoidEd A red teXt"


Picked up a korg minilogue in black. Still getting to grips with it but so far it sounds pretty nice!

Wugga
Oct 30, 2006

I BEAT MEAT

gbs but from 2004 posted:



Picked up a korg minilogue in black. Still getting to grips with it but so far it sounds pretty nice!

That looks sweet af. I'm jealous now.

Sockington
Jul 26, 2003

Sweaty IT Nerd posted:

And I just got this today to copy landgrabber


It's me. I have all the copies of expensive guitars.

Epiphanies can be kind of hit or miss, but you knocked it out of the park with the Classic Vibe. :boom:


Edit: epiphones, but that autocorrect is too mint

Sockington fucked around with this message at 20:40 on Nov 1, 2018

gbs but from 2004
Oct 24, 2004

wow u rude pig

"i STarTed this TOIlEt Of A tHreaD aNd HAve sOmEHOW aVoidEd A red teXt"

Wugga posted:

That looks sweet af. I'm jealous now.

Luckily I found it second hand on eBay about £30 cheaper than a brand new standard silver one - I hate the look of the silver ones so I was pretty pleased with this!

Sweaty IT Nerd
Jul 13, 2007

Sockington posted:

Epiphanies can be kind of hit or miss, but you knocked it out of the park with the Classic Vibe. :boom:

I really like the neck. It's maybe just a tad narrow.

Kilometers Davis
Jul 9, 2007

They begin again

Sockington posted:

Epiphanies can be kind of hit or miss, but you knocked it out of the park with the Classic Vibe. :boom:


Edit: epiphones, but that autocorrect is too mint

*has a life altering epiphany*

“meh not really feeling it rn”

GnarlyCharlie4u
Sep 23, 2007

I have an unhealthy obsession with motorcycles.

Proof
Have you all seen this loving thing?
https://www.phase-project.com/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yL46Uw8M6HA

Seems pretty loving cool.
I like the idea of being able to keep using DVS and (almost) double up on decks without having to add 2 more turntables.

H13
Nov 30, 2005

Fun Shoe
YO. QUICK QUESTION.

I've been rocking an Axe-FX and I'm considering going back to real amps. But I don't want to lose the ability to record bitching guitar amps silently.

I want to record the direct signal from my Mesa Rectifier into my DAW, then throw an IR onto it to hear how it sounds.

I feel like this should be possible, but I'm not sure how.

Any ideas?

The Muppets On PCP
Nov 13, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
it's called a load box

you plug the amp into it like you would a cab and run the output to your mixer/interface

rule of thumb is you want something rated at twice the output wattage of your amp

gbs but from 2004
Oct 24, 2004

wow u rude pig

"i STarTed this TOIlEt Of A tHreaD aNd HAve sOmEHOW aVoidEd A red teXt"

H13 posted:

YO. QUICK QUESTION.

I've been rocking an Axe-FX and I'm considering going back to real amps. But I don't want to lose the ability to record bitching guitar amps silently.

I want to record the direct signal from my Mesa Rectifier into my DAW, then throw an IR onto it to hear how it sounds.

I feel like this should be possible, but I'm not sure how.

Any ideas?

Is that what the universal audio ox top box does or whatever it’s called?

H13
Nov 30, 2005

Fun Shoe

gbs but from 2004 posted:

Is that what the universal audio ox top box does or whatever it’s called?

Kinda yeah. But I'm more interested in the Two Notes Torpedo.

So I want to try Amp -> IR. I have the IR I want to use (it's the one I use in my AFX). I've got a plugin that I can load IRs into, so to test how well this works, I want to record the dry signal from my amp, run it into the plugin with the IR and see how it sounds.

If I like that more, I switch back to amps. If I like the AFX more, I stick with the Axe.

So I don't want to spend 1k on an Ox or a Torpedo only to find out it doesn't work as well. I'd like to do a quick and dirty test first and somehow plug my amp into the interface without blowing it (or the interface) up in the process.

Is a load box the ONLY way? Or is there another quick dirty jury rig I could swing?

Thumposaurus
Jul 24, 2007

You need a load box to simulate the load the speakers place on the out put transformer.
If you just try plugging it straight in you'll either blow up your amp, your interface, or both.

The Gasmask
Nov 30, 2006

Breaking fingers like fractals
What’s your amp? Some have a preamp output, which will be a non-powered singal you can record or live feed into the axe, and use the cabinet sims.

Or, you can go the other way, and use the preamps of the axe with the power amp of a real amp, by using the fxloop inputs and disabling the power amps on the axe.

If you don’t have a preamp out on the amp though, you will blow up the axe if you try to run speaker outs into it. I did this with a boss BR8 like 15 years ago, learned my lesson quick!

Imo, I still much prefer the AxeFX, even in band situations - but I do the power amp thing I mentioned, because I’m used to the power amp response on my amps. When I try to run the axe through a keyboard amp or PA, it sounds great for the audience, but I have trouble hearing myself over other instruments unless using IEMs.


E: saw you said it’s a Mesa. IIRC my Mesa F30 has a recording output, which seems to do its own load balancing, no clue if the rectifiers have one too.

The Gasmask fucked around with this message at 13:33 on Nov 7, 2018

Wark Say
Feb 22, 2013

by Fluffdaddy
The new Mark V versions do, as does whatever abomination John Petrucci cobbled together to make his signature amp.

gbs but from 2004
Oct 24, 2004

wow u rude pig

"i STarTed this TOIlEt Of A tHreaD aNd HAve sOmEHOW aVoidEd A red teXt"
Is the sequis motherload the type of thing you’re after?

GreatGreen
Jul 3, 2007
That's not what gaslighting means you hyperbolic dipshit.

H13 posted:

YO. QUICK QUESTION.

I've been rocking an Axe-FX and I'm considering going back to real amps. But I don't want to lose the ability to record bitching guitar amps silently.

I want to record the direct signal from my Mesa Rectifier into my DAW, then throw an IR onto it to hear how it sounds.

I feel like this should be possible, but I'm not sure how.

Any ideas?

Amplifier -> Load Box -> Speaker IR device


Some amps have a DI out with their own IR simulation (they almost always sound like poo poo and are locked into a single IR), but some do have a direct out. If your amp has a direct out AND a silent recording mode you might not need a load box... but even in that case you won't be getting poweramp distortion/coloration. I want to say the Randall Satan amp has advertised that it has a DI tapped off the power amp but I have no idea how that's done on a technical level.

Which Axe-Fx are you using?

GreatGreen fucked around with this message at 16:21 on Nov 7, 2018

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Dang It Bhabhi!
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GreatGreen posted:

Amplifier -> Load Box -> Speaker IR device


Some amps have a DI out with their own IR simulation (they almost always sound like poo poo and are locked into a single IR), but some do have a direct out. If your amp has a direct out AND a silent recording mode you might not need a load box... but even in that case you won't be getting poweramp distortion/coloration. I want to say the Randall Satan amp has advertised that it has a DI tapped off the power amp but I have no idea how that's done on a technical level.

Which Axe-Fx are you using?

Most amps with a direct out don't have an "IR" as you mean it but instead just employ a lowpass filter using an opamp.

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