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Kerning Chameleon posted:Okay, I let Win10 1803 installer do it's thing on a paved drive, so that's Windows' fuckup, but whatever, how do I expand it, Disk Management is greying the option out on that partition, and I have 50GB worth of unallocated space. You could try using disk cleanup to clean all the system restore points (disk cleanup -> clean up system files -> more). I think that will hit the restore partition? Ghostlight posted:You can only resize partitions to include space directly on their right-side, so you would have to clone your drive off, remove the partition, resize the system reserved partition, recreate the OS partition then clone your drive back on. or just use a better partition editor than window's built in disk manager MS's own help article on the subject tells people to use minitool partition wizard.
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Ghostlight posted:If that's the case you're better off ignoring it. I'm reading this as "just pave and reinstall" then, got it. Klyith posted:If windows made an adequate system partition (400 - 500mb) then the problem isn't that it's too small but that it's somehow gotten full of junk. No, the partition is very clearly 100MB. Maybe the problem is I didn't truly pave it with dban, but just told Windows Setup to just delete the old partitions and install over the now unallocated space? Kerning Chameleon fucked around with this message at 02:26 on Oct 3, 2018 |
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Ok, I’m about to reinstall windows clean... formatting the SSD and starting over. it’s a gaming/development desktop machine. I plan to install steam and visual studio 2017 and python and maybe have some Linux vms. What version should i install? Pro, enterprise or pro for workstations? I have an MSDN enterprise sub so licensing isn’t an issue. I really don’t want candy crush or whatever on my machine. I hate stuff being installed that I didn’t put there Thx
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Kerning Chameleon posted:No, the partition is very clearly 100MB. Maybe the problem is I didn't truly pave it with dban, but just told Windows Setup to just delete the old partitions and install over the now unallocated space? pffft windows installer would be dumb enough to preserve the partition structure of partitions you just deleted.  Doing a clean reinstall on an OEM laptop I think I remember having to delete partitions then reboot before actually installing, because otherwise it wanted to make a 5gb restore partition matching what the laptop came with. No, bad windows! I deleted that partition because I don't want an OS restore that's full of crapware. And if I don't need a restore partition full of crapware, I'll take the 5 gigs back thank you very much. namlosh posted:Ok, I’m about to reinstall windows clean... formatting the SSD and starting over. if you have the license deffo go enterprise. the only downside is you get the major updates later but that's not a downside most of the time.
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Klyith posted:the only downside [to enterprise] is you get the major updates later Edit: Ah, I get what you meant. If you don't do anything, you aren't going to be the first person in the staged rollout with Enterprise (which is a good thing) unless you've got some update management setup. You're of course free to update it yourself, if you want the new build that badly. astral fucked around with this message at 03:23 on Oct 3, 2018 |
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Updated to 1809 on two of my computers. Went smoothly, Microsoft is getting better at this.
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Anyone have any general advice for how-to wipe a Windows 10 machine with an SSD and get it ready for sale? My father's decided he wants to go back to Apple and bought a really old used Mac Mini rather than waiting for the rumored update later this year, and so I've been tasked with selling his old machine. Since SSDs are essentially impossible to securely wipe (as far as I know?) I assume it's best to just remove the hard drive and sell as-is without it? Or should I do a fresh install of Windows 10 first and then remove the hard drive to be on the safe side? I'll have a use for the SSD anyways since it will go into my PC fine but I was wondering if there's anything I should know or any particular order that I should do things in?
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SUNKOS posted:Anyone have any general advice for how-to wipe a Windows 10 machine with an SSD and get it ready for sale? My father's decided he wants to go back to Apple and bought a really old used Mac Mini rather than waiting for the rumored update later this year, and so I've been tasked with selling his old machine. Since SSDs are essentially impossible to securely wipe (as far as I know?) I assume it's best to just remove the hard drive and sell as-is without it? Or should I do a fresh install of Windows 10 first and then remove the hard drive to be on the safe side? I'll have a use for the SSD anyways since it will go into my PC fine but I was wondering if there's anything I should know or any particular order that I should do things in? If I understand correctly, you're going to remove the SSD from the PC, and you want to wipe a separate hard drive that's inside it. If you do a single pass of zeroes to the hard drive, that should be enough. You could always use something simple like DBAN instead, of course. astral fucked around with this message at 04:13 on Oct 3, 2018 |
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Good news: Flushing an SSD is a lot easier and faster than DOD-7ing a HDD. Bad news: Because what your SSD presents to your OS is not exactly what is going on under the hood, SSDs do not have any physically-indexable locations, so you can't target a specific sector, and alternate 0s and 1s on it until any trace of what might have been tehre is gone. Good news: Whether you set it or not, SSDs usually use on-disk encryption of some sort. Tell the SSD to throw away the key, and the data is useless. Bad news: SSDs shuffle files around to ensure that all the NAND wears evenly, and even holds some unallocated blocks in reserve that they may also use as a cache, or a buffer while shifting files around. While normally inaccessible during normal usage, files could continue to exist there after you've "deleted" them from the SSD. (really, marking them as eligible for repurposing via TRIM.) Good news: You can use hdparm under Linux to issue an ATA Secure Erase command, which tells the SSD to apply a voltage spike to every NAND cell in unison, in effect, purging every available block in one operation. It consumes one complete write cycle across the entire drive, but if you absolutely, positively, have to nuke the data on a drive, this is the correct way to do it. Bad news: I don't know of any way to do that with Windows's built-in tools. I keep a few Ubuntu images on hand to specifically deal with this, because it's free.
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SUNKOS posted:Since SSDs are essentially impossible to securely wipe (as far as I know?) SSDs are easy to securely erase. Anything that's not ancient should support the ATA secure erase, which allows the drive itself to do the erase in the optimal fashion. On some SSDs that writes to all the flash cells, but at the very least will make the drive erase it's own mapping table. Without that data recovery is not going to happen -- SSDs don't store data in any physically continuous way, the map is how they know what's where. The easiest way to do that on windows is to download whatever utility software from your drive's maker. (For example samsung magician.)
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So Microsoft can't be this stupid right, there's gotta be an option for this... right? Is there a way to turn dark mode off for "Windows Explorer" but keep it as the default for other apps like "Settings" and "Calculator"? Like can't be that stupid... No way.
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Im_Special posted:So Microsoft can't be this stupid right, there's gotta be an option for this... right? Uh, why would they? When you picked Hot Dog Stand you got Hot Dog Stand on every window, they didn't exempt File Manager...
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Klyith posted:or just use a better partition editor than window's built in disk manager Alright, that did it. There was a funny tiny little partition in between the reserved and OS partition that didn't show up on Windows' default disk manager that I had to delete, and the system seems initially slow as it tries to find all the files that got shifted over 400mb physically, but otherwise it seems fine. Point is, the update went through, and unlike my desktop, the sound drivers didn't stop working and have to be replaced with the generic Microsoft ones. Might even be able to get grub working now and be able to use Linux again. And even if it screwed up, I can just pave it all anyway, I didn't put anything vital on this machine after backing up and imaging just before trying to update. Thanks.
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fishmech posted:Uh, why would they? When you picked Hot Dog Stand you got Hot Dog Stand on every window, they didn't exempt File Manager... Why would they do an all or nothing option like that, especially how bad the explorer looks as dark, metro apps or whatever they're called looks fine, they have so much empty space in them that the white sucks to look at, explorer doesn't have this problem, and everything was fine how it was in 1803 with the dark/white combo.
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Im_Special posted:Why would they do an all or nothing option like that Why did you pick dark if you didn't want dark? It was an aberration that they only had a halfass dark mode for the past like 3 years, similar options in Windows have always been all or nothing.
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If it's any consolation, it's still actually better than Apple's awful dark mode.
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IAmKale posted:Has anyone taken Your Phone out for a spin? I switched to macOS from Windows for work, then an iPhone X from a Pixel because of how convenient iMessages integration is for sending SMS/MMS/group text on the desktop. I'm really hoping Your Phone is a competent take on that, I wouldn't mind going back to Android and Windows. You don't need "Your Phone", just use Google's SMS app Android Messages. It has a pretty competent web interface. And you don't even need to buy a special computer to use it! Kerning Chameleon posted:Alright, that did it. There was a funny tiny little partition in between the reserved and OS partition that didn't show up on Windows' default disk manager that I had to delete, and the system seems initially slow as it tries to find all the files that got shifted over 400mb physically, but otherwise it seems fine. Point is, the update went through, and unlike my desktop, the sound drivers didn't stop working and have to be replaced with the generic Microsoft ones. Might even be able to get grub working now and be able to use Linux again. The next time you reinstall your Windows, be sure sure to install in UEFI mode. Should improve startup times by quite a bit. Lambert fucked around with this message at 06:57 on Oct 3, 2018 |
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SUNKOS posted:Anyone have any general advice for how-to wipe a Windows 10 machine with an SSD and get it ready for sale? My father's decided he wants to go back to Apple and bought a really old used Mac Mini rather than waiting for the rumored update later this year, and so I've been tasked with selling his old machine. Since SSDs are essentially impossible to securely wipe (as far as I know?) I assume it's best to just remove the hard drive and sell as-is without it? Or should I do a fresh install of Windows 10 first and then remove the hard drive to be on the safe side? I'll have a use for the SSD anyways since it will go into my PC fine but I was wondering if there's anything I should know or any particular order that I should do things in? astral posted:If I understand correctly, you're going to remove the SSD from the PC, and you want to wipe a separate hard drive that's inside it. Don't DBAN/zero out either drive, always use ATA Secure Erase. ATA Secure erasing an SSD will take seconds and delete/secure wipe all data but hours to days on an HDD. Lambert fucked around with this message at 07:04 on Oct 3, 2018 |
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astral posted:If I understand correctly, you're going to remove the SSD from the PC, and you want to wipe a separate hard drive that's inside it. The PC just has the SSD in it since it was only used for browsing/financial stuff etc. and there wasn't a need for a lot of storage. The SSD is a Samsung 850 Evo, if I remember right. No partitions or anything, just that one drive with Windows 10 Pro installed on it. Klyith posted:SSDs are easy to securely erase. Anything that's not ancient should support the ATA secure erase, which allows the drive itself to do the erase in the optimal fashion. On some SSDs that writes to all the flash cells, but at the very least will make the drive erase it's own mapping table. Without that data recovery is not going to happen -- SSDs don't store data in any physically continuous way, the map is how they know what's where. Lambert posted:Don't DBAN/zero out either drive, always use ATA Secure Erase. ATA Secure erasing an SSD will take seconds and delete/secure wipe all data but hours to days on an HDD. Thanks for the info. I actually Googled the Samsung SSD and saw some results about people complaining it wasn't working with Samsung Magician and freezing/breaking somehow. Right now I'm tempted to just remove the SSD to keep and replace with a HDD in the same slot. I'm familiar with wiping mechanical drives but then again the Magician site says the 850 Evo is supported so I can always give it a try and if worst comes to worst swap out with a new 2.5" HDD and do a fresh install for sale? Thanks for the help everyone.
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Klyith posted:if you have the license deffo go enterprise. the only downside is you get the major updates later but that's not a downside most of the time. Thank you!
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I loaded the phone companion app and so far all it does show a loading /refreshing thing about Recent Photos. Nothing ever shows up. This is with a Samsung S6 phone. Worthless.
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redeyes posted:I loaded the phone companion app and so far all it does show a loading /refreshing thing about Recent Photos. Nothing ever shows up. This is with a Samsung S6 phone. Worthless. Are you talking about the old phone companion app that's always been useless or the new one that that just rolled out with the newest Windows update?
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Everyone here just uses WhatsApp which has an excellent desktop client. Thank god.
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isndl posted:Are you talking about the old phone companion app that's always been useless or the new one that that just rolled out with the newest Windows update? Nah, I It's called Your Phone, then I loaded the app it wants loaded on my Android phone. Logged into my MS account on both and... NOTHING! Maybe it needs a newer Android OS version. If so it doesn't say anything about that. [edit] Tried a S7, same crap. It will send a text message but won't receive anything, nor show me photos. Boooooo. Apparently the app looks in the Camera Roll folder for photos but android phones don't save photos there!! WTF redeyes fucked around with this message at 17:40 on Oct 3, 2018 |
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namlosh posted:Ok, I’m about to reinstall windows clean... formatting the SSD and starting over. Pro for Workstations. It has that fancy new Ultimate Power setting 
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Hey for anyone like me who runs LTSB/LTSC for their organization, the 2019 build just appeared in the VLSC. Haven't tried it, but it's built on 1809, so that should knock down a lot of little stupid hangups that have been accumulating.
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One PC updated just fine to 1809, but another is having an issue where after any user on the machine logs in there's a weird 30 second to up to two minutes of waiting time staring at a black screen with a mouse cursor. If you hit the Windows key the menu shows up, but any program or app you launch just disappears into the void as it goes dark again until Windows decides to start showing the desktop/taskbar. Tried updating video drivers, but that doesn't seem to be it. Gonna wait a bit before updating the rest.
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Windows just wants to take them to the game bar game bar, game bar
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Reddit seems up in arms about how this update is wiping My Docs, My Pictures and My Music? Something to be aware of, I suppose, if you're dumb and don't do regular backups. That said, my update went totally smoothly and all my stuff is still there (I also back up regularly  ).Aside, I've never had Candy Crush reinstall after an update but apparently that's a thing that happens to the average Reddit user regularly?
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Stanley Pain posted:Pro for Workstations. It has that fancy new Ultimate Power setting Ooooooo, sounds intriguing. I assumed I shouldn’t install pro for workstations since I didn’t have any of the fancy hardware it takes advantage of, but maybe I’ll have to take another look
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GreenNight posted:I'm still trying to figure out how to remove the Game Bar by default for new users. in administrator power shell: code:Snuffman posted:Aside, I've never had Candy Crush reinstall after an update but apparently that's a thing that happens to the average Reddit user regularly? Honestly the candy crush / other ad apps are so not worth being mad over. They're not even a real program, people who grouch about "taking up space on my system" are wrong. It's just a start tile to a dummy app that installs the thing from the MS store if you launch it.
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Klyith posted:in administrator power shell: None of those apps exist, but the Game Bar is still there. Check it -  I typically wouldn't care but management shits themselves if there is anything game related on a computer.
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RE: The placeholder tiles that saddle you with Candy Crush etc: If you have to reinstall Windows, a neat trick to avoid Candy Crush etc is to keep the computer off the Internet (unplug Ethernet, pop SIM cards, not attach to Wi-Fi, etc) until whatever name change you do to your computer in Settings: System > About instead of DESKTOP-GIBBERISH takes effect in Devices & Printers, and use the time to remove the placeholder tiles from the Start menu. Or like however long it takes to install and configure drivers and restart, whatever, but a name that lets you recognize your computer in the network inventory at your router/gateway/whatever isn't a bad idea. If they never reach the Internet before they're removed, their 'download garbage' triggers can never fire. EDIT: Of course, this only works for a personal computer and per-account; wonder what people use for deploying environments. dont be mean to me fucked around with this message at 20:51 on Oct 4, 2018 |
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If I turned into a gross Linux nerd last month and installed Ubuntu, with GRUB on the same partition as my old Windows boot manager, am I supposed to be having issues with updating to w10 1809 now? I successfully updated on a different pure-Windows desktop yesterday and noticed that the update was messing around installing stuff with the display drivers not loaded, so clearly there was some lower-level changes going on. If there shouldn't be any issues on my dual-boot laptop, what gives? Windows Update returns 0x8024200d Late edit: Nevermind, got it taken care of with the Media Creation Tool Sidesaddle Cavalry fucked around with this message at 04:44 on Oct 5, 2018 |
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dont be mean to me posted:If you have to reinstall Windows, a neat trick to avoid Candy Crush etc is to keep the computer off the Internet (unplug Ethernet, pop SIM cards, not attach to Wi-Fi, etc) It's nice that Windows 10 recreates that nostalgic feeling of installing from original Windows XP media during the Blaster worm days.
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Klyith posted:Honestly the candy crush / other ad apps are so not worth being mad over. They're not even a real program, people who grouch about "taking up space on my system" are wrong. It's just a start tile to a dummy app that installs the thing from the MS store if you launch it. The best way to avoid them is to delete C:\Users\Default\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\Shell\DefaultLayouts.xml which forces all new profiles to be created with only Edge, Settings, and Explorer pinned.
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Ghostlight posted:They're not taking up an amount of space anyone should ever care about, but they are not placeholders - the Start tile initiates a download as soon as internet becomes available. This is what I was looking for; thank you.
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baka kaba posted:Windows just wants to take them to the game bar game bar, game bar I appreciated this. NOW TELL ME DO YOU HAVE ANY MONEY? I WANNA SPEND ALL YOUR MONEY AT THE WINDOWS STORE WINDOWS STORE WINDOWS STORE WOO! I'VE GOT SOMETHING TO PUT IN YOU. It's a feature update you don't want. *reboots*
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