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Orange Crush Rush
May 7, 2009

You don't need thumbs for revenge
Is there ever a point as Naz where you should just maybe cut your losses and take something else as 20? Like if you don't think the game will go on long enough?

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bamhand
Apr 15, 2010
Garg at 20 is a perfectly fine ult to take. If your team is behind and you need like 30+ stacks just take garg. Especially if a big objective is coming up.

bamhand fucked around with this message at 03:32 on Oct 2, 2018

Orthodox Rabbit
Jun 2, 2006

This game is perfect for empty-headed dunces that don't like to think much!! Of course, I'm a genius... I wonder why I'm so good at it?!
Gargantuan ult is pretty good because the cooldown reduction means you can throw it out pretty much constantly

lucifirius
Mar 7, 2016
I like fury of the storm.

Speaking of, what's the "best" 20 for Sylvanas? I took Fury as we were winning the entire time, and I took the silence arrow at 10.

Mind over Matter
Jun 1, 2007
Four to a dollar.



I think Bolt is considered the best at high levels because it's an instant escape teleport if you get caught in a bad situation. That said, I like Fury myself and I've seen some people advocate the upgraded Wailing Arrow if you're good at landing the center.

I've never really taken Fury on Nazeebo because all his other 20 talents seem more compelling to me.

kaesarsosei
Nov 7, 2012
I see Medivh is free this week. He's classified as a Specialist but really looks like a Support. What am I supposed to be doing as Medivh?

Shockeh
Feb 24, 2009

Now be a dear and
fuck the fuck off.

kaesarsosei posted:

I see Medivh is free this week. He's classified as a Specialist but really looks like a Support. What am I supposed to be doing as Medivh?

Out damaging all the Assassins by finishing the Q pre-4m.

lucifirius
Mar 7, 2016

kaesarsosei posted:

I see Medivh is free this week. He's classified as a Specialist but really looks like a Support. What am I supposed to be doing as Medivh?

Spam Q at the enemy, scout for your team during rotations, shield incoming burst, and cry in anguish when your team mates ignore the portals to safety. I like Ley Line Seal because you can steal boss with it.

Mierenneuker
Apr 28, 2010


We're all going to experience changes in our life but only the best of us will qualify for front row seats.

Don't pick Ley Line Seal your first couple of games though, because it will lead to Void Prison-esque situations where everybody will whiff their abilities.

BrianBoitano
Nov 15, 2006

this is fine



Per a reddit dude, how to reduce input lag:

quote:

Hey, I'm a technologist by trade, and I've got some tips for Windows 10 users that can make a big difference in your game.

1. Play the game in Fullscreen (not Borderless Windowed)

Windows 10 forces Triple Buffering in Borderless Windowed mode, which adds input lag.

2. Reboot just before you play, or clear your standby list

Windows 10 aggressively caches data in its standby list so it will be available next time you launch a game. Unfortunately, it can stick around (even for months!) after you play (or even just update) a different game. This is especially true of the Battle.net launcher.

3. Disable VSync and cap your in-game framerate

Like #1, VSync will add input lag. Ideally you would use GSYNC or FreeSync to handle syncing of framerates below your monitor's refresh rate, combined with a framerate limiter to prevent framerates above your monitor's refresh rate. HOTS technically has an in-game framerate limiter that you can enable with a command line argument, but it seems to introduce some bizarrely inconsistent frametimes for me, so I use RivaTuner Statistics Server.

4. Update your BIOS, drivers, and double check your CPU and memory speeds

It's more common than you think for people to unknowingly be running outdated drivers or reduced CPU or memory speeds.

They provide links to support their recommendations, as well as links to tools that can help too.

BrianBoitano fucked around with this message at 14:35 on Oct 2, 2018

Yardbomb
Jul 11, 2011

What's with the eh... bretonnian dance, sir?

You'll take my borderless windowed from my cold, dead hands.

BrianBoitano
Nov 15, 2006

this is fine



What's the difference?

Macaluso
Sep 23, 2005

I HATE THAT HEDGEHOG, BROTHER!

Yardbomb posted:

You'll take my borderless windowed from my cold, dead hands.

Yukari
Feb 17, 2011

"That's going in the cringe reel for sure."


Yardbomb posted:

You'll take my borderless windowed from my cold, dead hands.

ToastyPotato
Jun 23, 2005

CONVICTED OF DISPLAYING HIS PEANUTS IN PUBLIC

BrianBoitano posted:

What's the difference?

The only thing I can think of is for multi monitor set ups. That is why I tend to do it. Though I still have the cursor trapped during actual gameplay.

unpronounceable
Apr 4, 2010

You mean we still have another game to go through?!
Fallen Rib

Yardbomb posted:

You'll take my borderless windowed from my cold, dead hands.

Shibawanko
Feb 13, 2013

BrianBoitano posted:

Per a reddit dude, how to reduce input lag:


They provide links to support their recommendations, as well as links to tools that can help too.

Oh hey this sounds like it might solve some of my lovely lag problems, I'll give it a try.

Relentless
Sep 22, 2007

It's a perfect day for some mayhem!


Yardbomb posted:

You'll take my borderless windowed from my cold, dead hands.

lucifirius
Mar 7, 2016

Yardbomb posted:

You'll take my borderless windowed from my cold, dead hands.

Orthodox Rabbit
Jun 2, 2006

This game is perfect for empty-headed dunces that don't like to think much!! Of course, I'm a genius... I wonder why I'm so good at it?!
*Me, losing my team the game because I was extremely out of position for no good reason: "wow borderless windowed costs me ANOTHER game"

DAD LOST MY IPOD
Feb 3, 2012

Fats Dominar is on the case


Literally just lost a game because, after having a stable connection all game, I DC’d just as we engaged at a level 23 teamfight and we got wiped and cored.

gently caress.

Schneider Inside Her
Aug 6, 2009

Please bitches. If nothing else I am a gentleman
Tell you what, there’s no greater feeling than getting a 4 man Impaling Blades stun and just murdering their entire team with Ravage and Maelstrom. Kerrigan is so broken and I never want to stop.

Shockeh
Feb 24, 2009

Now be a dear and
fuck the fuck off.
Flippantpost: Even as someone who has levelled Medivh to 10 (TWICE!) I still can't see why you'd want Ley Line Seal. Polymorph Bomb would be a good button (as an instant hard disable with no cast time or projectile) without spreading. With, it's a teamfight decider that is much less hassle to use.

Then, I'm that greedy gently caress who hardly ever Portals for someone else (what'll be the point, they won't use it and then *I* might need it.)

Medivh is just The Best.

SSJ_naruto_2003
Oct 12, 2012



Stealing camps

Grei Skuring
Sep 12, 2011

:norway::thumbsup:
Completely nullifying an entire dive team if you find yourself being rushed while unprepared. Frankly, I cannot imagine anyone not finding a use for it. Poly just seems pretty unreliable to me.

Shockeh
Feb 24, 2009

Now be a dear and
fuck the fuck off.

Grei Skuring posted:

Completely nullifying an entire dive team if you find yourself being rushed while unprepared. Frankly, I cannot imagine anyone not finding a use for it. Poly just seems pretty unreliable to me.

I suppose it's down to how reliably you can do the whole GTFO Alt-W / E / Peace Out / Z?

Like I said, flippantpost, it wasn't meant with any tone.

Bogart
Apr 12, 2010

by VideoGames
The level 20 upgrade for LLS is called Medivh Cheats!, so...

SirSamVimes
Jul 21, 2008

~* Challenge *~


A perfect Ley Line Seal is one that removes 3-4 members of the enemy team from the fight for a few seconds, allowing you to murder the 1-2 with impunity. When it ends, you are now at a 1-2 number advantage and can clean up.

Erdricks
Sep 8, 2005

There's nothing refreshing like a sauna!
For solo ranked play, HL or TL? Any opinions on what is better?

Orthodox Rabbit
Jun 2, 2006

This game is perfect for empty-headed dunces that don't like to think much!! Of course, I'm a genius... I wonder why I'm so good at it?!
This is 100% anecdotal but I've had pretty positive matches overall in TL solo so far and I prefer the draft-in-any-order of TL more

Corsair Pool Boy
Dec 17, 2004
College Slice
Agree with above, all reports right now are that you're much more likely to get people that want to play as a team in TL right now, rather than 4 other people that all want to play assassins. I hope this lasts....

Charles Bukowski
Aug 26, 2003

Taskmaster 2023 Second Place Winner

Grimey Drawer
I too have been enjoying solo queueing in team league. If i meet nice people sometimes we form a team. Since you can solo queue in TL now, what the hecks the difference between HL and TL(besides HL apparently being full of screeching yahoos)?

Star
Jul 15, 2005

Guerilla war struggle is a new entertainment.
Fallen Rib
No limits on ranks, meaning teams can be composed of bronzes and masters and if you are unlucky you can get a team of solo queues vs a five-stack. TL also lacks a fixed draft order.

Grei Skuring
Sep 12, 2011

:norway::thumbsup:
About 50% of my hero league teams have at least one noncommunicative/throwing/soloing player, which we in some (rare) circumstances can overcome. Any solo players in TL have a different experience? I'm gold 2.

Orthodox Rabbit
Jun 2, 2006

This game is perfect for empty-headed dunces that don't like to think much!! Of course, I'm a genius... I wonder why I'm so good at it?!

Grei Skuring posted:

About 50% of my hero league teams have at least one noncommunicative/throwing/soloing player, which we in some (rare) circumstances can overcome. Any solo players in TL have a different experience? I'm gold 2.

This is also anecdotal but my buddy who's in gold has been really enjoying his solo TL matches so-far


my only complaint about TL is that it sucks getting put against a 5 stack but oh well

Corsair Pool Boy
Dec 17, 2004
College Slice

Grei Skuring posted:

About 50% of my hero league teams have at least one noncommunicative/throwing/soloing player, which we in some (rare) circumstances can overcome. Any solo players in TL have a different experience? I'm gold 2.

Everyone that responded above suggests TL is not generally like that and is in most ways a vastly preferable experience right now unless you only want to play solo queuers at your rank.

I can see in particular Master and GM players preferring HL to control game quality, but at least in wood league TL seems to engender somewhat less frustration and insanity.

Polio Vax Scene
Apr 5, 2009



Star posted:

No limits on ranks, meaning teams can be composed of bronzes and masters and if you are unlucky you can get a team of solo queues vs a five-stack. TL also lacks a fixed draft order.

So its QM

Elysium
Aug 21, 2003
It is by will alone I set my mind in motion.
It's funny to say that it "lacks a fixed draft order" as if that's a downside. That is a feature.

Star
Jul 15, 2005

Guerilla war struggle is a new entertainment.
Fallen Rib

Elysium posted:

It's funny to say that it "lacks a fixed draft order" as if that's a downside. That is a feature.

I really didn’t mean it like a downside. I know many people prefer it like that and would like HL to use it too.

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Orthodox Rabbit
Jun 2, 2006

This game is perfect for empty-headed dunces that don't like to think much!! Of course, I'm a genius... I wonder why I'm so good at it?!
Mephisto has been really great for the overall winrate when I play matches with my friend. He's always had an issue with diving too far into the enemy team. But with mephisto's teleport it eventually forces him back out of the enemy team so he's been dying way less

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