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would you weebs stop trying to make guns that wound marines effortlessly
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JcDent posted:would you weebs stop trying to make guns that wound marines effortlessly Plasma and melta already exist and are available at Tier 1 character creation, ain't need weeaboo fightan guns to do that. One thing that has kind of surprised me in this endeavor is that there's absolutely a formula to all of this. I'm far too used to systems that treat weapon statistics more along the lines of "a longsword does a d8 and an axe does a d12 because gently caress you that's why." Being able to at least map out that a S4 AP 0 D1 weapon becomes 10+1ED AP 0 (with a handful of traits) is satisfying.
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Oct 1, 2018 21:26
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Speaking of, am I reading it right that a Shuriken Pistol (10+1ED; AP 0; Range 24m; Salvo 2; Penetrating [3], Pistol) is beefier than a Lasblaster (7+1ED; AP 0; Range 48m; Salvo 4; Assault)? Edit also is Dual-Wielding, like, Shuriken pistols going to be worth the points for the talent?
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Oct 1, 2018 23:11
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Werix posted:Well and also remember, for every First Born, or Cadian Karskin regiments there are like 500 regiments made up of people from hive cities that were living a poo poo life, pressed into service with the Guard, and if they survive more than the estimated 15 hours on the battlefield then what? They're going to return to the lower hives to work in a factory? Return to the gangs barely getting by in the underhive? It mainly depends what the imperium needs at that moment. NCOs. Trainers for PDF or the next crop of 500 regiments of hivers. The imperium doesn't settle the veterans on newly conquered planets for their benefit. They settle them on newly conquered planets because they want a population of loyal, pious imperial citizens who are handy with a lasgun put on that planet. Morale and recruitment benefits from picts of guardsmen turned homesteaders and administrators are a bonus.
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Oct 2, 2018 00:34
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Rockopolis posted:Speaking of, am I reading it right that a Shuriken Pistol (10+1ED; AP 0; Range 24m; Salvo 2; Penetrating [3], Pistol) is beefier than a Lasblaster (7+1ED; AP 0; Range 48m; Salvo 4; Assault)? Yeah. Lasblaster is only a S3 weapon in the wargame, so it comes out with lower damage. Shuriken pistol gets Penetrating because it has a better AP on a wound roll of 6. The tradeoff is that you get more shots with the lasblaster and you're on the move with it.
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Oct 2, 2018 00:35
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Felime posted:It mainly depends what the imperium needs at that moment. NCOs. Trainers for PDF or the next crop of 500 regiments of hivers. I'm pretty sure benefits against Picts was one of the reasons, though? 
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Oct 2, 2018 06:17
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PantsOptional posted:Plasma and melta already exist and are available at Tier 1 character creation, ain't need weeaboo fightan guns to do that. you're not going to run into 6 Guardsmen with plasma guns on the reg. Also, as the "can a guardsman kill an ork with a lasgun shows," the game isn't that well balanced. So it takes after the TT very much in that regard 
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Oct 2, 2018 07:00
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PantsOptional posted:Yeah. Lasblaster is only a S3 weapon in the wargame, so it comes out with lower damage. Shuriken pistol gets Penetrating because it has a better AP on a wound roll of 6. The tradeoff is that you get more shots with the lasblaster and you're on the move with it. Las guns
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Oct 2, 2018 19:30
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Rockopolis posted:Huh. Okay. Guess it's the gun to use if you don't want it to be immediately obvious who murdered a dude. My headcannon is that they sound exactly like these. 
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Oct 2, 2018 19:56
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Is that pineapple? Sure it's not some Dark Eldar splinter rifle? Also, I was going to suggest shuriken guns have more recoil than a lasgun, but its Eldar bullshit and probably has something to cancel it out. I've got a <any> keyword to fill out - what are some good one for an Eldar corsair smuggler/spy type? Kind of a gangster that also sells off Cold Trader?
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Oct 2, 2018 20:31
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The scream of a circular saw blade traveling at supersonic speed. Exactly like a guy playing a saw with a bow. Like a cd stuck on a dremal to make it explode. Like a high pitched bullroarer.
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Oct 2, 2018 20:36
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Rockopolis posted:Is that pineapple? Sure it's not some Dark Eldar splinter rifle? Isn't that what the Rangers are?
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Oct 2, 2018 20:40
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Hm. I thought the Rangers were more...Ranger-y? Like, wandering around and staying hidden kind of spy, not "talks to gangsters and bribes corrupt officials"
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Oct 2, 2018 20:50
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You just want the pirates. All the young kids rebelling against the strict formalities of normal life, pottering off to raid fringe worlds and impose their superiority on the filth while occasionally ferrying Harlequins around.
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Oct 2, 2018 21:33
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I think that fits into the <coterie> keyword. I've got to pick/make up what gang he's with. I should take a look at the other applicants - I think there's one other Corsair, and at least one Rogue Trader?
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Oct 2, 2018 21:45
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Rockopolis posted:Hm. I thought the Rangers were more...Ranger-y? Like, wandering around and staying hidden kind of spy, not "talks to gangsters and bribes corrupt officials" I was just glancing at the wikis, but it made them seem like they were closer to an outlaw with vaguely "patriotic" feelings towards their craftworld or the Eldar in general; they may not be a part of the criminal world, but they're willing to immerse themselves in it as a means to an end. Edit: Another option is to just make a corsair who purely engages in social banditry. MizPiz fucked around with this message at 22:19 on Oct 2, 2018 |
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Oct 2, 2018 22:15
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goatface posted:The scream of a circular saw blade traveling at supersonic speed. https://youtu.be/swsUvZRFkeM
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Oct 2, 2018 22:45
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This is exactly what shuriken guns sound like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3iTux5mxa0 Yes, including the fake "pew pew" noises
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Oct 2, 2018 23:09
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MizPiz posted:I was just glancing at the wikis, but it made them seem like they were closer to an outlaw with vaguely "patriotic" feelings towards their craftworld or the Eldar in general; they may not be a part of the criminal world, but they're willing to immerse themselves in it as a means to an end. I think Corsair is just how close the Eldar get to crime; in truth, they're just out there raiding non-Eldar because they don't want to be anspect warrior, mooom. Like the historical corsairs, they have the blessing of the rest of the eldardom to pirate.
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Crossposting from Recruitment, since most of you interested are probably here. I'm recruiting for a new game: Game: Out of the Frying Pan... System: Warhammer 40K RPG: Rogue Trader Format: Voice Chat via Discord Players: Up to 7 Description: Grab your bolters and whisper a prayer to the Emperor--we're off to explore the Koronus Expanse, a practically uncharted sector of lost worlds teeming with humanity, harsh planets hiding vast deposits of minerals, and foul hives of Xenos demanding to be purged. But it's not just a sandbox. I also have a plot threaded through it all--one of intrigue and politics, conflicts both subtle and overt, over stakes that could change the fate of the Imperium itself--if you choose to follow it. I'm looking for up to 7 brave souls to join me. Veterans and newbies equally welcome. I want to run the game slightly less grimdark and more in the style of "Heroes of the Imperium" with mighty characters, great deeds, and ample opportunity for profit.
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Oct 4, 2018 01:08
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Is there an example anywhere of what an astropathic communication looks like? That is to say, what the final product looks like that gets handed to the captain or whomever. I know there are a lot of examples of those logged communications that have the Thought of the Day included in them but those seem far too formal for astropathy.
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Oct 4, 2018 15:19
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PantsOptional posted:Is there an example anywhere of what an astropathic communication looks like? That is to say, what the final product looks like that gets handed to the captain or whomever. I know there are a lot of examples of those logged communications that have the Thought of the Day included in them but those seem far too formal for astropathy. I think the Navis Primer describes them more as a series of images, impressions, and sounds that the receiving astropath has to interpret. Like they might have code images, etc. This is in many ways stupid, and just about every game I've ever played in treat them like Morse code messages. Words go in one end, and come out the other. Basically like thought sending on a cosmic scale.
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Oct 4, 2018 15:30
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Yeah the way the Navis Primer goes into it, it sounds like the messages are visions deeply personal to the individual Astromancer that require some interpretation. Which I agree doesn’t really make sense with the straightforward interpretation of the message into text. How exactly does the statement “Meet here at these coordinates: xx,yy,zz” translate into a vision? I treat it more like a standard data transmission that may get garbled with noise requiring correction to read properly.
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Oct 4, 2018 16:41
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Most of the subsystems from the Navis Primer are hard-mode rollfests anyway, so you can probably treat them as exaggerations at most. If you're being charitable you might instead treat them as low-level descriptions of things no one pays conscious attention to, like assembly code as compared to modern programming languages.
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Oct 4, 2018 17:02
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What, is the rest of the Astropathic Choir the registers? poo poo, now I want GW to farm the license out to Zachtronics.
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Oct 4, 2018 17:58
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Formalised emojis.
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Rockopolis posted:poo poo, now I want GW to farm the license out to Zachtronics. Oh god yes oh yes oh yes oh yes oh yes.
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Klaus88 posted:
I feel like that GM might not understand a lot of things. Hope the game got better.
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"You take a direct hit from a rail rifle."
"Crap, how much damage does it do?"
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Relevant Tangent posted:I feel like that GM might not understand a lot of things. Hope the game got better. Treating damage narratively instead of fiddling with hit points actually owns
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If you're going to do that then you probably shouldn't have a weapon designed to oneshot Space Marines being fired at an individual in a guard company. Also, rolling for damage matters in a game where you're explicitly supposed to be able to not necessarily get oneshotted. If you think it's better for the game if people die instantly that's cool.
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Oct 6, 2018 13:33
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Or you've been handing out fate points too freely and really need to cut that economy back.
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Oct 6, 2018 13:38
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Has anyone tried using Roll20 to play Wrath and Glory? Is it reccomended.
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PantsOptional posted:Is there an example anywhere of what an astropathic communication looks like? That is to say, what the final product looks like that gets handed to the captain or whomever. I know there are a lot of examples of those logged communications that have the Thought of the Day included in them but those seem far too formal for astropathy.
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Oct 6, 2018 15:44
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90% of that message is probably just routing info.
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Oct 6, 2018 15:47
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The truest horror of the 41st millennium is the protocol overhead for TCP/IP over psychic carrier.
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Oct 6, 2018 16:30
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The Astronomicon also provides the Imperium's only DHCP and DNS servers.
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Oct 6, 2018 16:39
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This raises an extremely important question: What do you do when you need to reset your astropath?
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Oct 6, 2018 19:29
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You get the comically oversized wooden mallet.
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Dachshundofdoom posted:You get the comically oversized wooden mallet. Ahem, I think you'll find it's 
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The Ciaphas Cain novels have video transmission via astropathic choir, complete with Cain going "Wait, can you handle video?" to the receiving astropath and the astropath going "Sure, it's easy, you just [technobabble]." And then the video ends up killing that astropath because it's full of chaos bullshit, but they still get it recorded so they can watch it on lovely grainy monitors. But, you know, Ciaphas Cain. It could be taking the piss.
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