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I get that people personally involved are angry and have a right to be, but any time there's a high profile controversy like this it reeks of toxic masculinity. Everyone whips themselves into a frenzy trying to posture and say 'nuh uh, I'm the toughest' and it turns into a competition of people trying to assert how moralistic they are by loudly talking about how disgusted they are by a particular high profile criminal.
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Oct 4, 2018 15:35
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These are mostly the same people who accuse others of "virtue signaling" for criticizing their use of slurs.
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Oct 4, 2018 15:41
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social qu!=edit
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Oct 4, 2018 15:42
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Daft Moose posted:Colten Boushie. And you’re a moron if you think we should base our criminal justice system based on the desires of the mob bleating for blood in the streets.
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Oct 4, 2018 16:23
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DariusLikewise posted:FACT: The majority of sexual assault and rape cases don't make sentencing you loving moron. No victim is thinking after a rape what sort of punishment or jail time they can inflict on their abuser. Most of the time they can't get the police to take them seriously or are ridiculed for doing things like taking a showering afterwards before reporting. Boy, you sure told me, when the posts you're reacting to said: James Baud posted:That rehabilitative pat on the head is why roughly 1% of rapes result in a conviction And James Baud posted:I think very seriously that "why bother reporting [rape], even in the exceedingly unlikely case that it goes somewhere, the sentence will be a complete slap on the wrist" is a significant demotivating factor [to reporting], yes. Is English not your first language? That's Hookshot level reading comprehension. You're wholeheartedly agreeing with me, you loving moron. DariusLikewise posted:The only thing ridiculous about the Kavanaugh hearings is that he is actually still going to be a US Supreme Court Judge
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Oct 4, 2018 16:35
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Look, we believe victims and want a high conviction rate for sexual assault but also want the rapists to have kitchenettes and be rehabilitated into society as quickly as possible. It's a bit of a weird dichotomy, like with Trudeau, yes he grabbed that girl's butt 15 years ago but he can tell that he's obviously self rehabilitated because he doesn't seem to have reoffended at least in a way that was a negative experience for the recipient.
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Oct 4, 2018 16:47
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The solution to James Baud is the ignore button, his so called arguments are idiotic and not worth anyone's time responding to. He's proved himself to be an idiot time and time again.
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Oct 4, 2018 17:35
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TrueChaos posted:The solution to James Baud is the ignore button, his so called arguments are idiotic and not worth anyone's time responding to. He's proved himself to be an idiot time and time again. I mean it makes sense, it's much easier to convince oneself that the reason sexual assault never gets conviction is because of the victim's actions and opinions on punishment/consequences, rather than because of a system of patriarchal oppression. Especially if the one convincing themself also happens to benefit from that patriarchal system.
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Oct 4, 2018 17:59
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Postess with the Mostest posted:Look, we believe victims and want a high conviction rate for sexual assault but also want the rapists to have kitchenettes and be rehabilitated into society as quickly as possible. It's a bit of a weird dichotomy, like with Trudeau, yes he grabbed that girl's butt 15 years ago but he can tell that he's obviously self rehabilitated because he doesn't seem to have reoffended at least in a way that was a negative experience for the recipient. Swift, certain, and reasonable punishment is the best deterrent Rehabilitation lowers recidivism No one ITT defended Justin Trudeau
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Oct 4, 2018 18:35
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James Baud posted:Boy, you sure told me, when the posts you're reacting to said: Helsing posted:Wow it's almost like you're brushing over something here, something that might be slightly more significant than the thing you're focused on 
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Oct 4, 2018 18:42
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https://twitter.com/AdamBienkov/status/1047173997866242049 it would be cool if our labour party tried to force the capitalists into the position of having to make a moral case for capitalism but instead we're standing up for the suffering millionaires of Canada's dairy cartel lol
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Oct 4, 2018 18:49
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Daft Moose posted:You're all out of touch nutjobs if you think it's unreasonable for people to be upset that a woman who was directly involved in the kidnapping, raping, and murdering a 8 year old with a hammer is not in a maximum security prison. No one's saying people can't get upset, we're just saying there's a reason justice is handled through an impartial (as much as possible) system rather than by people's knee-jerk reactions. Unless you think it's not unreasonable to go back to lynch mobs as a form of justice?
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Oct 4, 2018 19:14
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THC posted:James... Bad
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Oct 4, 2018 19:36
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CRISPYBABY posted:I get that people personally involved are angry and have a right to be, but any time there's a high profile controversy like this it reeks of toxic masculinity. Everyone whips themselves into a frenzy trying to posture and say 'nuh uh, I'm the toughest' and it turns into a competition of people trying to assert how moralistic they are by loudly talking about how disgusted they are by a particular high profile criminal. A subset of this is the torture porn posts that internet tough guys like to constantly barrage on comment sections whenever one of these things come up. "If i saw this guy in my community...."
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Oct 4, 2018 19:53
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James Baud posted:Boy, you sure told me, when the posts you're reacting to said: Pretty much every time I see activists or survivors discuss this issue their focus is on how the victim gets put on trial, the trauma of undergoing a rape kit, the sexism and indifference of the police, the stigma from the community, the horror of reliving a traumatic event, the desire to move on with your life rather than stay focused on something horrible. You brushed past all that in a single clause of one sentence. In doing so you (not coincidentally, I imagine) exonerate the police and justice system and the poor treatment they provide most survivors and try to make this about the cops and how their hands are tied and what can they do? Those bleeding heart reformist do-gooders (you know, the people who have actually made some effort to make the system more responsive and humane for victims) are the real villains here, if they could just get on board with more punitive sentencing the whole system would work great. I'd give you more of the benefit of the doubt if you hadn't come in here a day ago to drop off your hot take about what a bang up job the TPS did on the Bruce Macarthur case. Helsing fucked around with this message at 20:14 on Oct 4, 2018 |
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Oct 4, 2018 19:54
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apatheticman posted:A subset of this is the torture porn posts that internet tough guys like to constantly barrage on comment sections whenever one of these things come up. That was one of the motivating examples in my head tbh. It's A Thing. Wasnt there Vice article a year or two back about some Prairie rednecks forming a 'anti pedophile citizens group' that mostly just resulted in them trying to entrap mentally handicapped people? That's kind of the extreme endpoint. CRISPYBABY fucked around with this message at 21:25 on Oct 4, 2018 |
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Oct 4, 2018 21:21
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https://twitter.com/angusreidorg/status/1047959429985914880 Sounds about right. How QS manages to balance that, especially with two Option Nationale MNAs in its caucus, is going to be interesting. Pinterest Mom fucked around with this message at 02:06 on Oct 5, 2018 |
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Oct 4, 2018 23:32
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https://www.thestar.com/amp/news/wo...-stand-for.html The 300% tariffs that Canada can put on US dairy products is still in place despite Trump insisting they wouldn't be.
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Oct 4, 2018 23:55
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Pinterest Mom posted:https://twitter.com/angusreidorg/status/1047959429985914880 A potential dynamic of CAQ and QS is much better for the province than the Libs and PQ imo. I hope the libs lose bad next time around.
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Oct 5, 2018 02:02
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Count Roland posted:A potential dynamic of CAQ and QS is much better for the province than the Libs and PQ imo. I hope the libs lose bad next time around. I think we are seeing the slow erosion of the old political system in Québec that has been here since the 1960s. The CAQ is gaining ground in rural and suburban ridings that used to be staunchly Liberal or Péquiste. QS is similarly gaining ground in urban areas at the expense of the Libs and PQ. I expect that the West Island is going to remain a Liberal stronghold, the PQ is going to die and wither away, while QS rises to #2 party by the next election. What happens to the CAQ is largely going to be the reaction to their term in office in the next four years.
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Oct 5, 2018 02:18
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Count Roland posted:A potential dynamic of CAQ and QS is much better for the province than the Libs and PQ imo. I hope the libs lose bad next time around. Hell yeah, gently caress immigrants
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Oct 5, 2018 02:24
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Don Pigeon posted:I think we are seeing the slow erosion of the old political system in Québec that has been here since the 1960s. A buddy of mine works for the big construction union in Montreal and a ton of his coworkers went from being lifelong PQ voters to voting for CAQ in order to topple the the liberals this election. Who knows what they'll do in 4 years' time. Also, the liberals had it coming: they'd get elected by being the "no referendums" party and then proceed to do whatever they wanted once they were elected, and so Quebeckers were willing to elect the first party to come along that also was not going to pursue sovereignty. It didn't matter who it was.
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Oct 5, 2018 04:02
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Ottawa Citizen posted:https://ottawacitizen.com/pmn/news-...56-a6d12f11d7c6 Lock her up! Emails!! 
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Oct 5, 2018 04:15
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Jan posted:Lock her up! Emails!! Canadian Conservatives actually have no original thoughts or ideas.
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Oct 5, 2018 11:55
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Silver Spooner posted:Canadian Conservatives actually have no original thoughts or ideas. They’re a cargo cult.
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Oct 5, 2018 13:12
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Not big political news but this is just the whiniest bullshit https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/transcona-residents-outraged-sidewalk-eltassi-1.4851547
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Oct 5, 2018 13:39
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They're just mad because they woke up one day and realized that they went and did something as stupid as buying a brand new house in a suburb in Transcona.
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Oct 5, 2018 13:46
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It's just so adorable the anger they're having about it. "Pedestrians, in my suburbs?!"  EDIT: The comments are just as silly, this is amazing.
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Oct 5, 2018 13:51
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I love their arguments like: I bought this house because it had no sidewalk I can't park on a sidewalk I might run someone down if I pull out of my driveway and don't look behind me It's a prime example of how stupid people get if they feel they are losing anything no matter how small
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Oct 5, 2018 13:53
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Maybe, just maybe, if they made sure to not vote for a mayor running on a platform of 'gently caress rapid transit and active transportation', they'd get to use their brand new bike lanes and the planned extension of the existing active transportation network in their area to actually go places by bike, rather than being entirely dependent on getting around by car which is the current state of pretty much everything east of Lag because trying to get out of Transcona to the rest of the city is a nightmare of high speed multi lane thoroughfares that are a death trap for bikes and make the transit service slow as all hell. But nah, they're just going to go 'MAH CAR CULTURE' because that's how Winnipeggers do.EDIT: for those of you unfamiliar with Winnipeg but familiar with the GTA, the only feasible way to get out of Transcona by bike includes riding a few KM down Regent St and the city AT map just kind ends all the Transcona routes there. It'd be like directing all bike traffic to Dundas just east of the 403 and then going 'welp, glhf with the rest of your bike ride'. EvilJoven fucked around with this message at 14:11 on Oct 5, 2018 |
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Oct 5, 2018 13:59
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Via Canadaland: Patrick Brown somehow manages to get even slimier.
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Oct 5, 2018 14:19
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quote:The planned walkway falls within a car's length from the garage doors, and according to city bylaws, homeowners could be ticketed for blocking the sidewalk. That is really stupid. Have a sidewalk, fine, but put it at the foot of the driveway where sidewalks go.
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Oct 5, 2018 14:24
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flakeloaf posted:That is really stupid. Have a sidewalk, fine, but put it at the foot of the driveway where sidewalks go. Yeah it isn’t a coincidence that the developer sold the houses before building the bike lane.
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Oct 5, 2018 14:28
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Also LOL@"One of the biggest selling features was that we had a big beautiful driveway, and we paid some money extra in order to have that, and now it seems that's all been taken away," said Pinder. Mrs Pinder is definitely addicted to her car if she thinks a slab of concrete big enough to park 4 of the loving things is beautiful. flakeloaf posted:That is really stupid. Have a sidewalk, fine, but put it at the foot of the driveway where sidewalks go. Winnipeg gets so much snow that putting the AT path anywhere close to the edge of the road just means it's going to get filled with it the first time a plow goes by.
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Oct 5, 2018 14:29
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Yeah, sidewalks that are literally impassible 6 months of the year aren't really good urban design.
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Oct 5, 2018 14:32
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You're very close to not even being hyperbolic about the 6 months thing. It's Oct 5 and we've had a tiny layer of snow on the ground for the past 24 hours. The little AT bridge I take to get to work had ice on it. One of my bikes already has the studded tires on. If the rain and snow predicted today is going to be more snow than rain, we're going to get more of it. And I have a bike race tomorrow. But it's cyclocross so riding in the mud rain and snow is to be expected. WHEE.
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Oct 5, 2018 14:36
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 Don't worry my dudes I'm pretty sure no one wants to go for a leisurely stroll through your suburban hellscape anyway
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Oct 5, 2018 14:45
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Maybe they'll opt to leave the car behind and walk or bike from their house to the giant shopping complex with hectares upon hectares of parking south of them, or the giant shopping complex with hectares upon hectares of parking west of them. LOL.
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City-run sidewalk plows aren't a thing? I can't see a bylaw forcing people to shovel the sidewalk being fair in places that get Winnipeg snow. Speaking of things that aren't fair: quote:
Two of these people aren't murderers, but we got the pitchfork sharpener out and these people all did bad things so let's treat them the same.
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