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Jobbo_Fett posted:And you say that you were provoked by the Polish people to attack them? 
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I hope there's a follow-up article with the Netherlands represented by The Incredible Hulk and he says "ITS CLOGGERIN' TIME!"
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Did anyone at the time actually *believe* the Nazis false flag tricks and think that Germany was just defending itself?
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Fangz posted:Did anyone at the time actually *believe* the Nazis false flag tricks and think that Germany was just defending itself? The made up casus belli is the "the gently caress you lookin at" of international relations
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Point of order, neither Austria nor Czechoslovakia existed any more at this point in time.  Edit: as to the false flag, some people might claim to believe it if it's convenient to them, to justify an isolationist or pro-German position, and I imagine some proportion of Germans believed it. Don't underestimate the effect of years of propaganda. feedmegin fucked around with this message at 18:52 on Oct 4, 2018 |
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Oct 4, 2018 18:48
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zoux posted:Strange women, lying in ponds, distributing swords...
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Fangz posted:Did anyone at the time actually *believe* the Nazis false flag tricks and think that Germany was just defending itself? feedmegin posted:as to the false flag, some people might claim to believe it if it's convenient to them, to justify an isolationist or pro-German position, and I imagine some proportion of Germans believed it. Don't underestimate the effect of years of propaganda.  in domestic politics usually apply similar standards on the international level.
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feedmegin posted:Point of order, neither Austria nor Czechoslovakia existed any more at this point in time. German soldiers weren't 500 miles tall and wore their bayonets on their left side, but what're you gonna do...?
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Plus I am pretty sure that monster could easily deal with any panzers due to it's scale.
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feedmegin posted:Point of order, neither Austria nor Czechoslovakia existed any more at this point in time. I picked up an atlas published ~1942 with a big note on the first page saying listen we're just gonna show 1935 borders until we see how this all shakes out.
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Cessna posted:German soldiers weren't 500 miles tall and wore their bayonets on their left side, but what're you gonna do...? I did wonder where you fit the bayonet on an MP40 tbh Edit: which wasnt even in service in 1939. Srsly why are comedy cartoonists so bad at research 
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P-Mack posted:I picked up an atlas published ~1942 with a big note on the first page saying listen we're just gonna show 1935 borders until we see how this all shakes out. That's fantastic.
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feedmegin posted:I did wonder where you fit the bayonet on an MP40 tbh Sure it was. The MP38 was basically the same gun just with more milled parts. The MP40 was a redesign to make better use of stamping and make the gun cheaper and quicker to manufacture.
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feedmegin posted:Edit: which wasnt even in service in 1939. Srsly why are comedy cartoonists so bad at research The MP40 was a simplified version of the MP38:  Which entered service in... wait for it...
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Cessna posted:The MP40 was a simplified version of the MP38: I'm on the edge of my seat! 
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It's essentially the one without the wooden furniture on it yeah?
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SeanBeansShako posted:It's essentially the one without the wooden furniture on it yeah? I believe the big difference was that the MP38 was made from machined parts while the MP40 was made easier to manufacture through use of stamped parts.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxv7bb5gfMU This looks close to getting into oorah territory but also those MoH citation descriptions are often insane, so it'll be interesting to see the dramatizations. I can tell from the trailer they're gonna do an Inouye episode at least.
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Re:Snake derail. Fer de lances are fairly chill and I accidentally shared a small chultun with one while doing survey work and didnt realize until I went over some photos later. The issue is that most snakes are NOT loving chill when you encounter them when brush clearing or macheting a path through the jungle. They are basically fairly pissed by that time you get near them and then you swing a machete near them and welp. If you encounter them on an already clear path its fairly easy to go around them but most paths get overgrown fairly fast. Rule of thumb was when you werent chopping to have your machete out in front of you edge first just in case. Edit: Some are likely mimics but several people on my project have had to kill Fer de lances because they would not gently caress off and were in the middle of the only trail possible. I guess the tldr is that snakes are not really going to bug you if you dont provoke them but you are not always going to know when you are provoking them. Telsa Cola fucked around with this message at 22:53 on Oct 4, 2018 |
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Telsa Cola posted:Re:Snake derail. Yeah refusing to gently caress off is a pretty good indication its a real one and not a mimic, and they are not snakes to be trifled with. I admit I was exaggerating calling them slugs, but they really do move at a snails pace when relaxed. However like most vipers they can "sprint" real fast for short distances when they're warm and threatened. However unlike many elapsids and posturing mimics, I've never seen or heard of them doing this aggressively. Only away from people as fast as possible. By contrast, I once watched a King Cobra hood, rear a meter high, and turn around and head straight for a handler stumbling backwards as fast as possible. Fortunately I didn't have many interactions with fer de lance in Latin America, but there was an eyelash viper that set himself up on palm leaf hanging into a narrow path around our study site riiight at head height, and stayed there for weeks. I must have almost blundered into that fucker half a dozen times, probably should have relocated it. So this post is vaguely military related, back when I was working at Fort Polk I was living in a forestry cabin to the southeast off Pitkin highway, and when I came home in the evening the road was always packed with copperheads and cottonmouths warming up on the pavement for the night. I couldn't help but stop at everyone and try and shoo them off just like "hey little guy, it's not safe here, you gotta move before someone less nice comes" *stomps and waves hands at the venomous reptile for five minutes* At Fort Polk we were also running drift nets and one of our trapping sites was on a little sandy rise where the trainees also loved to bivouac during war games. Their reactions when we came around were sometimes hilarious, like one time when someone ran over a fence with their apc and when we showed up a whole bunch of guys came out looking terrified, shouting "IT WAS ALREADY LIKE THAT WHEN WE GOT HERE, I DEFINITELY DIDN'T BREAK IT, YOU CAN'T PROVE ANYTHING!!!" Like seriously lol at the idea the brass are going to care you messed up the bio experiments. Or other times I would just try and mess with them a little bit, like in the morning if there were guys sleeping or resting around the box trap I'd loudly wonder "WHY are they SLEEPING next to the SNAKE PIT? Don't they know WE'RE LURING SNAKES right to this spot HERE?" It probably wasn't any more dangerous than any other spot really but I liked to make them think about it.
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If you dont prank people during field work you are not doing it right. Also I have to ask, did you ever run into any chechem while in Latin America? That poo poo loving blows. So this post is military history related, there is some footage of a colleague of mine going to town on a side of beef with a macuahuitl for some experiments. Ill see if I can grab it for the thread. Consensus was that it loving sucks to get hit by it because tiny obsidian flakes break off with each hit and stay in the wounds. Someone also launched a Clovis point tipped spear straight through a buffalo skin wrapped block of ballistic gel with some ribs set inside which was also neat. Telsa Cola fucked around with this message at 08:06 on Oct 5, 2018 |
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HEY GUNS posted:in classical greece there were "house snakes" which were small, non-poisonous, and ate mice. they didn't have cats yet, those were introduced to europe during classical roman times I know that it's probably not the case, but I will now imagine Romans invading Egypt and finding cats. Legionnaire Sixtus Quintus Polonius Diplodocus: *points at cat* What's that? Cat: *meows Ptolemaically* Egyptian: it's a cat, it's a very holy creature. Legionnaire Sixtus Quintus Polonius Diplodocus: What does it do? Egyptians: It sleeps all day, grooms itself, doesn't give a gently caress about anything and kills with startling efficiency. Legionnaire Sixtus Quintus Polonius Diplodocus: Oh my gods, it's just like a patrician, I must have them. Cat: *shreds priceless scrolls*
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and at least according to some bullshit i read, the orange ones originated in nordic countries and vikings spread them throughout their travels
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I'm about to start playing AC:Odyssey and I better be able to get a snake for my boat.
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HEY GUNS posted:and at least according to some bullshit i read, the orange ones originated in nordic countries and vikings spread them throughout their travels Cats or snakes?
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https://twitter.com/SocialHistoryOx/status/1048210584108511234 At 8 my go to insult was accusations of booger eating
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zoux posted:https://twitter.com/SocialHistoryOx/status/1048210584108511234 i wanna hang out with that 8 year old
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17th century battle rap was savage
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HEY GUNS posted:i wanna hang out with that 8 year old Nah I don't want to be read into oblivion by preteens
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 "thou art a heretic, thou art a son of perdition, a son of belial, thou art born only to sin, and that unceasingly" "i just asked if you wanted fishsticks with your sketti"
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Cessna posted:I believe the big difference was that the MP38 was made from machined parts while the MP40 was made easier to manufacture through use of stamped parts. In fact, the Russians ultimately brought in German engineers they had, uh, acquired post-WW2 to fix some of the problems they were having with producing stamped AKs. An expertise the Germans had in part developed via the MP38/MP40 revision.
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Why did the Allies only declare war against Germany when Germany and the Soviet Union invaded Poland?
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeasement By sacrificing their own allies (with minor a), the Allies (with capital A) hoped to divert German aggression eastward or at least buy themselves time (which was paradoxically a dumb idea as the Wehrmacht of 1938 was just a shadow of the Wehrmacht of 1940)
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quote:which was paradoxically a dumb idea as the Wehrmacht of 1938 was just a shadow of the Wehrmacht of 1940) To be fair, this also applied to eg the RAF
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ChubbyChecker posted:Why did the Allies only declare war against Germany when Germany and the Soviet Union invaded Poland? Unlike Germany, the Soviet Union hadn't already been told "Stop conquering your neighbors. We mean it this time." The Allied acquiescence to the annexation of Czechoslovakia was on the condition "This is it. No more territorial claims." When Hitler went into Poland in violation of this agreement, Britain and France found themselves in a "put up or shut up" position, where they either had to enforce their "seriously, stop conquering people" demands or prove that they had no power - conceding dominance of even the unconquered parts of Europe to the Reich and forfeiting their status as Great Powers. Since they hadn't been pushing the Soviets quite so hard (apart, of course, from sending troops to try making the Soviet Union a stillbirth), they didn't stand to lose as much face with the international community and their public by not starting a war. Since the rearmament programs were so young, and the two countries weren't really ready to fight the Reich, they left the USSR alone.
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The British (RAF) would have been but a minor factor in dealing with Hitler had he French gotten their poo poo together, politically.
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Gnoman posted:Since they hadn't been pushing the Soviets quite so hard (apart, of course, from sending troops to try making the Soviet Union a stillbirth), they didn't stand to lose as much face with the international community and their public by not starting a war. Since the rearmament programs were so young, and the two countries weren't really ready to fight the Reich, they left the USSR alone. The defeat of the Allies in 1940 was not due to material weakness.
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13th KRRC War Diary, 4th October 1918 posted:At 3 p.m. orders were received to be prepared to relieve the 10th R.Fus. in the front line on the right of the Brigade Front. The relief was completed by 11.30 p.m. the Battalion being disposed as under - 13th KRRC War Diary, 5th October 1918 posted:The morning was clear and sunny. No enemy movement was observed and patrols were pushed forward from the outpost line. Similar movements took place on the front of the Battalion on our right and when it was seen that the enemy had evidently withdrawn from the east bank of the canal the patrols pushed over and established themselves on that bank. By 11 a.m. both front line Companies were on the move and had pushed parties across in support of the patrols.
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steinrokkan posted:The defeat of the Allies in 1940 was not due to material weakness. You are correct. It was largely due to leadership issues and the Germans pulling off something that was batshit insane to even attempt. Not only are there more ways to be unready for war than the simply material ones, I was referring to the perceptions that lead to the decisions of the leaders of the time, and not the objective reality.
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