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Oct 5, 2018 22:26
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Taear posted:It'd be nice if there was an easier way to see how to get prestige classes. I got the list by scrolling down to the bottom in chargen and the prerequisites are there. The requirements are: Arcane Trickster: Trickery 4, Mobility 4, Knowledge (Arcana) 4, Sneak Attack 2(d6, I assume), 2nd level arcane spells Stalwart Defender: Dodge, Toughness, base attack bonus +7 Eldritch Knight: Martial weapons proficiency, 3rd level arcane spells Dragon Disciple: Knowledge (Arcana) 5, spontaneously cast 1st level arcane spells Mystic Theurge: Knowledge (Arcana) 3, Lore (Religion) 3, 2nd level arcane spells, 2nd level divine spells Duelist: Mobility 2, Dodge, Weapon Finesse, Combat Mobility, base attack bonus +6
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Oct 5, 2018 22:31
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Prism posted:I got the list by scrolling down to the bottom in chargen and the prerequisites are there. The requirements are: Thanks. At least Dragon Disciple is how it is in the P&P game.
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Oct 5, 2018 22:36
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Prism posted:I got the list by scrolling down to the bottom in chargen and the prerequisites are there. The requirements are: In all honesty, most of the companions are built to allow easy entry into various prestige classes. Octavia into Trickster and Valerie into Stalwart Defender are the blatantly obvious ones, but Regongar into Dragon Disciple is easily accomplished, and Tristian certainly has the stats to do Theurge (via a Sorcerer of some variety). That really only leaves Eldritch Knight and Duelist as lacking companions that easily slot into them. Okay that's a slight lie, as Nok-Nok could get into Duelist easily enough - don't actually do that though, as UC Rogue is much better for him - and I suppose you could slot Regongar into Knight as well, but that'd be utterly pointless.
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Oct 5, 2018 22:39
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Lord Koth posted:In all honesty, most of the companions are built to allow easy entry into various prestige classes. Octavia into Trickster and Valerie into Stalwart Defender are the blatantly obvious ones, but Regongar into Dragon Disciple is easily accomplished, and Tristian certainly has the stats to do Theurge (via a Sorcerer of some variety). That really only leaves Eldritch Knight and Duelist as lacking companions that easily slot into them. Okay that's a slight lie, as Nok-Nok could get into Duelist easily enough - don't actually do that though, as UC Rogue is much better for him - and I suppose you could slot Regongar into Knight as well, but that'd be utterly pointless. Octavia does it automatically if you let the game level her. Otherwise they're quite low down and I never even look at them, I just clicked on the class they're already on to level them up. In a similar vein I'm finding it REALLY hard to stay Chaotic Good because it comes up so rarely, it's always chaotic evil. I'm going to say that if it was turn based I might pay more attention but as it is with 4 spellcasters that all have huge spell libraries I just barely ever cast any spells because it's so much loving hassle. I don't even buff. There's too much going on and no reason to care. Like it's not going to make these fights more fun, it'll just make them take longer and this game is all about things taking long enough as it is! Just got myself a weapon called Dogsilcer +1. I'm not sure if it's meant to be called silcer, perhaps it is. The description says "Nais, sharp, edgeeee" anyway, so maybe it is deliberate, who knows with this game. Taear fucked around with this message at 22:48 on Oct 5, 2018 |
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Oct 5, 2018 22:45
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Taear posted:Octavia does it automatically if you let the game level her. Otherwise they're quite low down and I never even look at them, I just clicked on the class they're already on to level them up. I think that's intended, at least I assumed it was. It's an exemplary speciman of Goblin weapon design after all!
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Oct 5, 2018 22:49
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Taear posted:Octavia does it automatically if you let the game level her. Otherwise they're quite low down and I never even look at them, I just clicked on the class they're already on to level them up. Typo.
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Oct 5, 2018 22:50
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On the other hand, this is just some other type of magic weapon given that name. By goblins. So even if it's accidental, it makes perfect sense and works fine!
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Oct 5, 2018 22:56
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Lord Koth posted:On the other hand, this is just some other type of magic weapon given that name. By goblins. So even if it's accidental, it makes perfect sense and works fine! Naa there's too many typos as it is. I'm hyper aware of them and it always takes me out of the game if it says "loose" instead of "lose" especially if it happens interchangeably in a sentence for example. Which it often does! Another chapter 3 spoiler. Kastven being shocked when the portals grew in the prisoners and turned them into owlbears and then saying the prison back at the Capital must be overrun - but we know how to cure the problem and exactly why it happens, why would it be overrun? It's sort of a pain that if you assign an adviser to something that you can't afford and then click off it the adviser stays assigned and the game tells you they're doing it. I've had my treasurer on something he wasn't actually doing for a while without realising. Taear fucked around with this message at 23:37 on Oct 5, 2018 |
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Oct 5, 2018 22:57
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Aw dang, they fixed the bug that let Linzi learn Octavia's spells in any spell slots. I have Displacement as a level 2 bard spell and Haste as a level 1 bard spell
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Oct 6, 2018 00:30
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So, I don't usually multiclass. Is an Eldritch Scion Magus/Dragon Disciple as fun as it sounds? Or is there some sort of snag that makes it bad?
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Oct 6, 2018 00:44
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Invisible spiders that can damage your stats can gently caress off. As well as my pet being able to die properly when it's on Story mode! Is there any way at all to actually see how much health my Boar even has? As far as I can see there isn't. Unless it's those health bars that appear and disappear, I can never see what health anything has.
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Oct 6, 2018 00:50
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Gonna make an ugly necromancer and creep on Valerie.
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Oct 6, 2018 00:59
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Again chapter 3. I'm in the First World. The guide I'm following (because I can absolutely never work out what the gently caress to do) tells me to put my little caged bird on the dias and use the fire near the gnome. But the gnome has vanished and there is no fire. What the hell do I do? I keep reloading in case something is bugged and having to watch the super slow unskippable dialogue is really frustrating me.
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Oct 6, 2018 01:03
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Taear posted:Again chapter 3. Walk into the mists right by the dais, there are two instances of that room reached by going left and right. It sucks.
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Oct 6, 2018 01:06
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Eox posted:Walk into the mists right by the dais, there are two instances of that room reached by going left and right. It sucks. Do I have to unequip my lantern then? And the answer is yes. I have no idea how I'd have worked any of this out, it seems so random and obtuse. Taear fucked around with this message at 01:10 on Oct 6, 2018 |
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Oct 6, 2018 01:07
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Taear posted:Invisible spiders that can damage your stats can gently caress off. As well as my pet being able to die properly when it's on Story mode! You can click on the boar itself and hit I or whatever.
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Oct 6, 2018 01:11
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the_steve posted:So, I don't usually multiclass. Is an Eldritch Scion Magus/Dragon Disciple as fun as it sounds? Or is there some sort of snag that makes it bad? Mainly just giving up the higher level Magus abilities. As opposed to something like Sorc/Fighter into Dragon Disciple, you actually notable class features you gain upon level-up at higher levels of Magus, so it's something you actually want to look at and consider. Smart suggestion is to unlock Dragon Disciple, then just go through what both classes get, and decide for yourself if the gains are worth the losses. Or do a playthrough as something else, and just level Regongar as that. Then you have the option of either using him and seeing how it works out, or just using someone else if you don't think it is.
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Oct 6, 2018 01:26
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One nice thing about companions gaining experience when you're not using them is that you can put Tristian or whoever on a shelf until they qualify for whatever cool prestige class you want without having to deal with them sucking before then. Personally, I edited Tristian's stats so he has 16 dex and gave him a crossbow so he can do something besides heal my dudes. This character editor lets you edit money, experience, and attributes for all of your dudes. https://github.com/ericfitzgerald/KingmakerCharacterEditor Fun bug of the day: (Chapter 1 Spoiler) I was in the kobold section of the Old Sycamore dungeon, where the cage is that you find whatever companions Turtuccio left there. I was walking around looking for loot and Tristian, somehow, wandered into the drat cage and got stuck. Had to reload my game to get him out.
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Oct 6, 2018 02:14
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It's a reference to a really fun intro free Pen and Paper module called We Be Goblins, in which... you be goblins. http://paizo.com/products/btpy8j5w
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Oct 6, 2018 02:45
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So there is an eldritch scion bloodline that straight up gives you +6 str by level 17, it also lets you learn the transform spell which gives you full BAB progression. This is...nice. Could pair it with 2 levels of Dragon Disciple to get 2 more str, but at level 19 magus gets to pick six spells from the wizard spell list, one of which is sense vitals which would give you 5d6 sneak attack. This is also nice. 19 Eldritch Scion/1 Scaled fist would be the way to go, lvl 20 for magus doesn't look all that impressive.
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Oct 6, 2018 03:33
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Are you likely to actually get to 20 in Kingmaker? I assumed it generally topped out around 15-16 like most of the pen and paper adventure paths do (Wrath of the Righteous excepted).
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Oct 6, 2018 03:40
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Prism posted:Are you likely to actually get to 20 in Kingmaker? I assumed it generally topped out around 15-16 like most of the pen and paper adventure paths do (Wrath of the Righteous excepted). Yeah, it was said somewhere that you actually are expected to hit 20 enough before the end that you'll actually have some time to play around at that level. I want to say there's also supposed to be a small post-main plotline adventure too, but could be misremembering that one. Not that anyone's finished the game yet or anything to confirm, so far as I'm aware.
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Oct 6, 2018 04:19
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I'll say this, one of the nice things in the 1.06 was a launch window allowing me to play it windowed.
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Oct 6, 2018 09:37
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Lord Koth posted:Yeah, it was said somewhere that you actually are expected to hit 20 enough before the end that you'll actually have some time to play around at that level. I want to say there's also supposed to be a small post-main plotline adventure too, but could be misremembering that one. Not that anyone's finished the game yet or anything to confirm, so far as I'm aware.
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Oct 6, 2018 10:02
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ok my pure wizard keeps getting owned to the loving bone. How do I git gud.
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Oct 6, 2018 10:25
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Motherfucker posted:ok my pure wizard keeps getting owned to the loving bone. Pure wazard is all about locking your enemies down so the meatshields you buffed can punch their face in. You can make a fireballer dude, but it is way worse, and a sorcerer would usually do it better.
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Oct 6, 2018 10:31
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Cynic Jester posted:Pure wazard is all about locking your enemies down so the meatshields you buffed can punch their face in. You can make a fireballer dude, but it is way worse, and a sorcerer would usually do it better. Sure sure sure, cool cool cool. But I've got six spells total and they all wear off in the blink of a loving eye and resting is such a slog. You can't make scrolls nor can you buy new spells, you can't do anything early on to transcend this fun embargo all you can kinda do is throw enlarge person on the barbarian and watch them have fun while you toss rays of frost and after that you're essentially spent, dead weight. Maybe it gets better at high levels but I played for eight hours and got to level three before this choke-out finally killed any joy I'd be otherwise having. If this was neverwinter nights I could at least summon a badger and be assured that both it and my mage armor would last long enough that I could remain fairly relevant throughout the encounters leading up to my next rest. Motherfucker fucked around with this message at 10:46 on Oct 6, 2018 |
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Oct 6, 2018 10:38
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Motherfucker posted:ok my pure wizard keeps getting owned to the loving bone. Copy scrolls to your spellbook cause there are quite a few in the wild, buy a few of them from the Vendors at Oleg's (Johd has some good ones when you find him). Anything that targets Will is extremely potent against the majority of enemies in chapter 1 and Web can make certain tough encounters an instant win. But you should just use a bow/crossbow on easy fights.
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Oct 6, 2018 12:04
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Motherfucker posted:Sure sure sure, cool cool cool. But I've got six spells total and they all wear off in the blink of a loving eye and resting is such a slog. You can't make scrolls nor can you buy new spells, you can't do anything early on to transcend this fun embargo all you can kinda do is throw enlarge person on the barbarian and watch them have fun while you toss rays of frost and after that you're essentially spent, dead weight. Maybe it gets better at high levels but I played for eight hours and got to level three before this choke-out finally killed any joy I'd be otherwise having. Equip a bow and wait until you're higher level. And honestly with these I'd always recommend a sorcerer over a wizard. Like you say, resting loving sucks and wizards are sort of at the whim of the system.
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Oct 6, 2018 12:26
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No. 1 Apartheid Fan posted:That's a weird attitude for an RPG writer to adopt; romance and relationships (finding them or losing them or whatever) are a ubiquitous part of every other kind of storytelling and art because they're such a common and frequently-powerful shared touchstone in human experience, and I don't see any particular reason why trying to "gamify" that should be considered any more problematic or repulsive than a lot of the stuff you can choose to do in some CRPGs (including just butchering defenseless people for no reason other than to see what happens). Unsurprisingly goons are misremembering. Avellone has no problem with romances, but tends to prefer tragic or unrequited romances, e.g. Annah/FFG. Josh Sawyer is the Obsidian dev who dislikes romances, mainly because they are shallow and self-indulgent - he would have no problem with a fully-realised romantic story, but I also think that kind of story isn't the kind of story he prefers himself to write. It was Sawyer that had Patrick Weekes write a rebuttal in defence of the Bioware romance, and probably Sawyer that you all are thinking of.
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Oct 6, 2018 12:56
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Prism posted:Are you likely to actually get to 20 in Kingmaker? I assumed it generally topped out around 15-16 like most of the pen and paper adventure paths do (Wrath of the Righteous excepted). From what i hear the answer is yes, but the scaled fist/eldritch scion is good from level 1.
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Oct 6, 2018 14:51
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I've been eyeing this up and in two minds on if I should get it. Is the consensus to wait for a few more patches and maybe a sale?
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Oct 6, 2018 15:26
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Mr. Fortitude posted:I've been eyeing this up and in two minds on if I should get it. Is the consensus to wait for a few more patches and maybe a sale? It's buggy right now but they are cranking out hotfixes almost daily, half of them break something new though. Even so I have been having a poo poo ton of fun, this scratches an itch other better made RPGs simply didn't manage to hit.
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Oct 6, 2018 16:15
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Mr. Fortitude posted:I've been eyeing this up and in two minds on if I should get it. Is the consensus to wait for a few more patches and maybe a sale? I'd absolutely wait, right now it's literally impossible to complete the game. And the game has mechanics that can lose you 30 or even 50 hours of play. Hold off, give it a few months. Or a sale, yea. Get pillars of eternity 2 instead if you haven't played it, that's actually good. And allows you to explore the world map without constant perception checks and resting!
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Oct 6, 2018 16:22
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I have absolutely no familiarity with Pathfinder, and my DnD experience is mostly with 2e and 5e. I could use some pointers as to some cool multiclass combinations. I would especially appreciate any that include paladin or sorcerer. My current thought is Paladin 2/Scaled Fist 1/Sorcerer 17, but I fear that I would miss out on too many spell levels and bonuses.
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Oct 6, 2018 16:35
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Id say at least wait until their fabled Big Patch on the 22nd. Playing now is gambling and I'm done until then. Released in a shameful state, embarrassing
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Oct 6, 2018 16:38
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Lt. Danger posted:Unsurprisingly goons are misremembering. Avellone has no problem with romances, but tends to prefer tragic or unrequited romances, e.g. Annah/FFG. Josh Sawyer is the Obsidian dev who dislikes romances, mainly because they are shallow and self-indulgent - he would have no problem with a fully-realised romantic story, but I also think that kind of story isn't the kind of story he prefers himself to write. It was Sawyer that had Patrick Weekes write a rebuttal in defence of the Bioware romance, and probably Sawyer that you all are thinking of. No, but that would interfere with the goon narrative of Avellone as the preferred punching bag for everything that's wrong with everything, even though on the other hand he wrote 95% of KotOR2 and Kreia is a goon darling, and  tl;dr: Goons are, unsurprisingly, fickle assholes who are no different from the general public.
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Oct 6, 2018 16:41
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He's a good writer, just gets too self-indulgent from time to time. He needs a good editor to rein him in.
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Oct 6, 2018 17:17
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SoldadoDeTone posted:I have absolutely no familiarity with Pathfinder, and my DnD experience is mostly with 2e and 5e. I could use some pointers as to some cool multiclass combinations. I would especially appreciate any that include paladin or sorcerer. My current thought is Paladin 2/Scaled Fist 1/Sorcerer 17, but I fear that I would miss out on too many spell levels and bonuses. Cynic Jester posted:Aasimar Angelkin Monk (Scaled Fist) 1\Paladin (Divine Hunter) 2\Sorcerer (Draconic Bloodline) 2\Dragon Disciple 8\Eldritch Knight 7
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Oct 6, 2018 17:33
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