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Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

Len posted:

I went from second shift to first shift recently. On second shift there was an expectation to key over 20 orders a night. On first shift they maybe get 10 done. I don't know what the gently caress they do because it's the same job just different work window but they're every bit as bad at it as we assumed they were and it's acceptable and okay. :psyduck:

That was my experience working second shift. I was working in the office, as well as supporting the shop at the time. First shift was always loving up, while second shift had 1/3 the rework of first shift, second shift constantly got poo poo on. I generally got lumped into that, and at one point I just stopped giving a gently caress and just shitposted until midnight whenever I wasn't supporting the shop. I miss the early 2000's

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Fried Watermelon
Dec 29, 2008


Bullshit Jobs is the truest book every written about our job system

I myself have a job that can easily not be done for the company I work with, and the amount of money they paid me to do it was insane. My anxiety would get so bad, and my paranoia about "being found out" that I was a fraud or useless was so big I had to go into therapy for 2 years. Only after I started paying attention to other peoples jobs there did I realize I was actually doing more work than others solely by the fact that I'd do NOTHING but sit on the computer and maybe fix some poo poo. It was still better than others who would actually "do work" which just caused more paperwork or impacted someones productivity by adding more steps into their workflow.

I now work remote and choose my own hours and get far more work done.

Mariana Horchata
Jun 30, 2008

College Slice

SplitSoul
Dec 31, 2000

Pirate Radar posted:

there was an amazing story I read years ago—it may have been a thread on here or it may not have been, I don’t remember—but it was a story of a guy whose company went through a restructuring that included a new HR system and assigning number codes to everybody’s job. he was supposed to be made redundant in the restructuring but somebody had instead accidentally changed his job code to “office safety officer”, except that job only existed on paper, and he was still getting paid, but no longer had anyone to report to. so he kept showing up to work and getting paychecks automatically sent to him and disappeared into the faceless ant-nest of a large corporation for literal years because no one notices one guy and nobody was his boss anymore. I think in the end he actually just quit out of boredom

edit: I found it

https://sites.google.com/site/forgottenemployee/

second edit: reading this again reminds me this is at least partly stdh.txt but w/e

Yeah, I remember that story. This was an IT company with maybe a few hundred employees and there was like 20 people total in the department, though. Dude just came in and sat around playing with his phone all day, making like $40/hr on top of the sweet benefits. The reason they didn't fire him is that they forgot to assign him to any projects, so he hadn't actually left any work undone. My friend and colleague worked his rear end off trying to shed his $18/hr temp contract, among other things doing the job the guy had originally been assigned and found too difficult, but the result was, "Sorry, no new hires."

Other interesting experiences: Our department had its most lucrative month ever when the pigfuck manager was away on vacation (for a month). The same dude once told us to stay in the building after the fire alarm had gone off. He "worked from home" most days, thankfully.

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

SplitSoul posted:

The same dude once told us to stay in the building after the fire alarm had gone off.

Report that fucker to OSHA

Weaponized Autism
Mar 26, 2006

All aboard the Gravy train!
Hair Elf

lorn Wayne posted:

i think i deserve an award

not a good idea, friendo

Crazypoops
Jul 17, 2017




Please, no pictures of dead children.

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

Tape it back together, I'm sure the bank won't mind

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

quote:

Ben and Jackee Belnap of Halladay had been saving money to pay back Ben's parents for University of Utah football season tickets. They had the $1,060 ready in an envelope but were left searching the home when it disappeared over the weekend.

Oh I suddenly have a lot less sympathy for them for some reason oh well

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

quote:

There's good news for the family, though. They can submit the money to the US Department of Treasury Mutilated Currency Division for exchange.
It will take some time for the department to piece it all together and verify the amount.
"I called the guy the next morning and he said, 'Oh, we might be able to help you here,' and I was shocked," Ben said. "He said, 'Bag it up in little Ziploc bags, mail it to D.C., and in one to two years, you'll get your money back.'"

Oh the government will tape it back together for you, great

bring back old gbs
Feb 28, 2007

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

ate all the Oreos posted:

Oh I suddenly have a lot less sympathy for them for some reason oh well

they absolutely spent $800 and shredded $200

Sentient Data
Aug 31, 2011

My molecule scrambler ray will disintegrate your armor with one blow!
Buy a bag of shredded 100s from the mint, dump it in a shredder can, then say "but I TRIED to pay you back..."

Plank Walker
Aug 11, 2005
younger me had a great plan to take a $100 bill and a $1 dollar bill and cut both in half and tape them together to pass off as 2 $100 bills

older me knows the real money is in taking like 10 $100 bills, cutting them into tenths and taping them back together into 11 9/10 $100 bills

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Lambert posted:

In Europe, cashiers have seats.

the only reason it doesnt bother me is taking orders isnt my primary duty at my current job, so im never there for more than 5 minutes

The Bloop
Jul 5, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

Lambert posted:

In Europe, cashiers have seats.

Lazy socialist layabouts

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

Miftan posted:

David Graeber. The book is called Bullshit Jobs. Graeber is a super nice guy in person as well and has some interesting theories.
a marxist analysis on bullshit jobs:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odweKgG1qK8&t=646s
tl;dr a bunch of jobs exist almost purely to keep the system of capitalism going. the army of cops, pinkertons, jailers, supervisors, managers, academic cheerleaders in the economics department, media propagandists, salesmen, media advertisers, silicon valley search rank optimizers, obedience trainers (schools), bankers, stockbrokers, lawyers, the attendant staff to support all of the above, etc. are all needed to keep the system going or help the system going but they could not exist without all the people doing non-bullshit jobs to support them.

yah sure in a non-capitalist non-exploitative system you're going to have managers and law enforcers, but you probably don't need a gigantic army of them in the ratio they are today and their primary goal wouldn't be to enforce a system of exploitation

wolff emphasizes later in the lecture how absurd the situation of an army of managers is: the manager hounding you the worker every day could not exist without you financially supporting him lol

SplitSoul
Dec 31, 2000

ate all the Oreos posted:

Report that fucker to OSHA

I should have, but it's been a few years and I'm just thankful to be out of there. It's not like you could be on the phone with the loud as gently caress alarm going off and the PA telling us in several different languages to leave the building, so I have no idea what his intentions even were. I was like "Uh, nope" and left anyway. We complained to his superior, but all she did was stress in general terms that people had to leave, nothing disciplinary. Bet he had somehting on her, like the fact that she took money under the table for the temp agency contract. Shortly after that I quit. Nicest colleagues you could wish for, though, excepting management. Those types all have something wrong with their heads.

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

comedyblissoption posted:

obedience trainers (schools)

heck yeah skool sux!!!

Homocow
Apr 24, 2007

Extremely bad poster!
DO NOT QUOTE!


Pillbug
he sure looks happy for someone with $0 in their checking account

ContinuityNewTimes
Dec 30, 2010

Я выдуман напрочь

ate all the Oreos posted:

heck yeah skool sux!!!

This is literally true

double negative
Jul 7, 2003


Dead Beef posted:

he sure looks happy for someone with $0 in their checking account

having nothing is great when the alternative is a negative balance

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

ate all the Oreos posted:

heck yeah skool sux!!!

They actively avoid teaching a materialist analysis of history, and generally teach you not to question public consensus lol. The lack of this understanding as an adult directly leads people to not questioning the status quo and why their boss gets to live confortable while they're packed 5 people to a 2 bedroom

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

school teaches workers to be just smart enough to run the machines and do the paper work but just dumb enough to passively accept their increasingly shittier working and living conditions

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

Larry Parrish posted:

They actively avoid teaching a materialist analysis of history, and generally teach you not to question public consensus lol. The lack of this understanding as an adult directly leads people to not questioning the status quo and why their boss gets to live confortable while they're packed 5 people to a 2 bedroom

So instead we should just not have schools at all, since the argument was that they're jobs that "exist almost purely to keep the system of capitalism going." Clearly firing all those unnecessary "bullshit job"-having teachers and letting everyone unschool their kids at home or whatever is the way to make kids learn history better!

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

you completely misunderstood the point

indoctrinating workers in capitalist ideology and obedience training is crucial to the system, so a very large amount of bullshit in schools is dedicated to this purpose

of course you'd have schools and teachers in a non-capitalist system, but their primary purpose would be much different

Larry Parrish
Jul 9, 2012

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

ate all the Oreos posted:

So instead we should just not have schools at all, since the argument was that they're jobs that "exist almost purely to keep the system of capitalism going." Clearly firing all those unnecessary "bullshit job"-having teachers and letting everyone unschool their kids at home or whatever is the way to make kids learn history better!

This is like the argument that the socialist future won't need cops but in reverse

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

ate all the Oreos posted:

So instead we should just not have schools at all, since the argument was that they're jobs that "exist almost purely to keep the system of capitalism going." Clearly firing all those unnecessary "bullshit job"-having teachers and letting everyone unschool their kids at home or whatever is the way to make kids learn history better!

All people are saying is that we probably shouldn't have kids learn the ABCs with #brands, not that the entire concept of schooling is bad.

FeculentWizardTits
Aug 31, 2001

WampaLord posted:

All people are saying is that we probably shouldn't have kids learn the ABCs with #brands, not that the entire concept of schooling is bad.

Well what's a more appropriate age to learn brand engagement, smart guy? Second grade? Third grade? Every year you put it means the kids are that much closer to transitioning to a different marketing segment. There are serious opportunity costs to be considered here.

BallerBallerDillz
Jun 11, 2009

Cock, Rules, Everything, Around, Me
Scratchmo

CheesyDog posted:

BORN TO FRY
WORLD IS A PUNK
Tat em all 1989
I am thrash man
410,757,864,530 DINNER BILLS

Get rich or die frying.

E: gently caress, I forgot I was way behind in this thread. Whatever. :shucks:

BallerBallerDillz has issued a correction as of 06:28 on Oct 6, 2018

Graphic
Sep 4, 2018

It's like Lenin said
https://twitter.com/adamjohnsonNYC/status/1048450591670915072

https://twitter.com/adamjohnsonNYC/status/1048452635358113798

Coolness Averted
Feb 20, 2007

oh don't worry, I can't smell asparagus piss, it's in my DNA

GO HOGG WILD!
🐗🐗🐗🐗🐗

Fried Watermelon posted:

Bullshit Jobs is the truest book every written about our job system

I myself have a job that can easily not be done for the company I work with, and the amount of money they paid me to do it was insane. My anxiety would get so bad, and my paranoia about "being found out" that I was a fraud or useless was so big I had to go into therapy for 2 years. Only after I started paying attention to other peoples jobs there did I realize I was actually doing more work than others solely by the fact that I'd do NOTHING but sit on the computer and maybe fix some poo poo. It was still better than others who would actually "do work" which just caused more paperwork or impacted someones productivity by adding more steps into their workflow.

I now work remote and choose my own hours and get far more work done.

Yeah especially when it goes into how many jobs are only there to help support or service other nonworkers or make up for the damage other bullshit jobs cause. Since thw book isn't just about people pulling phantom paychecks it's about asking 'does this job really do something that's needed?'

Jel Shaker
Apr 19, 2003

that we probably have a few minds which would have won a Nobel prize in physics or maths in a previous era stuck in a Silicon Valley company focused only on how to make people click ads online is pretty damning of our society I feel

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless
We probably have hundreds or thousands of such minds being wasted away in some dead end minimum wage hell, too. Or dead of otherwise easily preventable causes.

Donkwich
Feb 28, 2011


Grimey Drawer

Stephen Jay Gould posted:

I am, somehow, less interested in the weight and convolutions of Einstein’s brain than in the near certainty that people of equal talent have lived and died in cotton fields and sweatshops.

Modest Mao
Feb 11, 2011

by Cyrano4747
gotta crack a few eggs

ScrubLeague
Feb 11, 2007

Nap Ghost

he's right and it fuckin sucks even bloomberg tv is getting this way

Smappdi
Oct 12, 2004

Strom Cuzewon
Jul 1, 2010


That's hilarious, but I'm not sure what artistic point it's making beyond "gotcha!"

mycomancy
Oct 16, 2016

Strom Cuzewon posted:

That's hilarious, but I'm not sure what artistic point it's making beyond "gotcha!"

I think the point of it was, "Get hosed rich cunts."

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Tiberius Christ
Mar 4, 2009


should have burst into flames

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