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Casimir Radon
Aug 2, 2008


https://youtu.be/_3iHV0NvLPI
April Fools but still funny

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Laslow
Jul 18, 2007

jojoinnit posted:

I had an (og iirc) Athlon that ran for years with no thermal paste, just the slot CPU pressed against the heatsink/fan. Not on purpose but when I was changing something I realised three tiny bit of paste had dried off years ago but since it was running fine until then I figured better not to mess with it and it kept going until the whole thing finally got replaced.
I had an Athlon XP that completely scorched through the stock heatsink’s thermal pad. I only realized it because I was doing a board swap from a dead cheap ECS board to another cheap ECS board. I had planned to redo the paste anyway, but drat its temps were fine anyway. I’m sure board died in some other way, because the CPU ran fine for years in the newer board.

spaceblancmange
Apr 19, 2018

#essereFerrari

Gonz posted:

In which LGR builds a high end Windows XP gaming rig using parts that would've equalled almost 4 thousand dollars if purchased new, 10 years ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XTnL4Mang0

I've been watching a bunch of philscomputerlab videos revisiting all the parts I wished I could afford in the late nineties, then the ones I had in the early 00s, then more I couldn't afford. Mid to late 00s tech nostalgia just isn't there for me yet considering I'm still using a machine from about that era everyday.

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

The only thing an XP machine is good for is playing the original Splinter Cell iirc

Laslow
Jul 18, 2007

spaceblancmange posted:

I've been watching a bunch of philscomputerlab videos revisiting all the parts I wished I could afford in the late nineties, then the ones I had in the early 00s, then more I couldn't afford. Mid to late 00s tech nostalgia just isn't there for me yet considering I'm still using a machine from about that era everyday.
Agreed. Anything post K8/P4 doesn't have real Win9x support and dicey WinNT 5.x and below support, so who cares?

My last machine was a Core2 Quad that lasted 7ish years. Hell, I'm still using the RAM sticks and video card from it in my wife's current Haswell desktop and it still plays the latest video games at decent settings. I'm using the SSD in my own computer. The only parts that were really retired were the CPU/Motherboard, since it was one of the first motherboards with DDR3 support, even the RAM is still usable today.

Gromit
Aug 15, 2000

I am an oppressed White Male, Asian women wont serve me! Save me Campbell Newman!!!!!!!
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barbecue at the folks
Jul 20, 2007


Late 90s - early 2000s were a wild time, my 1997 P133 without a 3D card became obsolete immediately and was replaced by a 700mhz Athlon with a GeForce 2 three years later. After that, a 1400 thunderbird and some radeon card in 2004. Each upgrade cost some serious moolah, I still can't understand how my dad afforded it all.

Vanagoon
Jan 20, 2008


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Took me a minute to realize this wasn't a spiderweb.

Remember this?
http://www.reallyslick.com/screensavers/

Use lots of power, and heat up your video card with demanding OpenGL screensavers! A Great Idea!

Buttcoin purse
Apr 24, 2014

Laserjet 4P posted:

B/W PCs were the most depressing thing to me, however. All work and no fun. Amber screens made things better, but not much.

I did notice that when pixels changed from white to black, they were green for a while during the decay. Man, that screen must have had a pretty bad response time by today's standards. Anyway I think I thought that was cool, like there kind of was another color :v:


I always wondered if that was possible. I wouldn't eat it though.

Fallom posted:

The only thing an XP machine is good for is playing the original Splinter Cell iirc

Not sure if you mean XP or a machine that can run XP, but I like XP for running in virtual machines. If whatever I want to do can run on XP, that's my preference because it's much lighter weight than later versions of Windows. Also I used it for so long I know how to do everything in it, but later versions I have to Google stuff sometimes :corsair:

Computer viking
May 30, 2011
Now with less breakage.

One of the old PCs at work is in just that weird old/modern transition. It's a last-gen pentium 4, and sat in a corner doing office things with XP for about nine years. When we were planning to retire it, I noticed it was new enough to have EMT64 and SATA, so I grabbed a small SSD and all the DDR2 I could find, and installed Win7 64-bit. It's ... fine? Dog slow for anything heavy, but usable.

What I do wonder is how low I could go with the same machine - it has a couple of PCI slots and the SATA controller is fairly conservative, so I suspect I could stuff a TNT2 and a Soundblaster in there, pull most of the RAM, and install Windows 98.

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius
With SATA? Probably not. I remember when vista came out and people were coming in asking us to put XP on their new laptops. XP only liked certain modes and XP refused to install on some HP laptops no matter what SATA mode it was in. I can't imagine 98 would like SATA.

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

Jerry Cotton posted:

Of course the thing didn't have an AGP connector. It had an AGP bus and a lovely video chip soldered right into it. So the best I could do a few years later was a really expensive Voodoo 3 3000 PCI card. I guess it still ran pretty much whatever 3-D games would've run on the thing anyway :shrug:

My first windows machine was a Dell Optiplex my dad convinced me to buy because he got a discount through his job. Because it was a 'business' computer, it didn't have an AGP slot , so I also had that Voodoo 3 3000 PCI. Windows 98 second edition!! I played a shitload of Aliens Vs Predator on that rig.

My next PC was a Windows XP about 4 years later, I built from scratch. Spent my entire tax return on the damned thing, it had an ATI card. Because Newegg was sold out of the version with fans, I ended up with one with an absolutely massive heatsink on both sides that cancelled out one of my PCI slots.

future ghost
Dec 5, 2005

:byetankie:
Gun Saliva
Every once and awhile I remember I have a Voodoo 3 3000 PCI and briefly consider making a PC for old 16 bit and DOS games, but then I remember GOG has most of what I'd be interested in already. That Voodoo was the only thing I kept from my original PC. A friend gave it to me as a pity replacement after the original Voodoo Banshee cooked itself and the SiS card I picked up couldn't even run its own 3D demo successfully.

The desktop also had a weird Pentium overdrive chip in it so most games ended up needing Cyrix patches to work correctly, and those pre-install CPU checks gave really strange results.

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lazydog
Apr 15, 2003

Cojawfee posted:

With SATA? Probably not. I remember when vista came out and people were coming in asking us to put XP on their new laptops. XP only liked certain modes and XP refused to install on some HP laptops no matter what SATA mode it was in. I can't imagine 98 would like SATA.

XP did not have AHCI drivers for SATA on the cd, so if you didn't have a legacy sata mode in the bios, it was a pain to get XP running. It was technically possible to load disk drivers during XP setup, but this could only be done from a floppy. You could not use USB, and a laptop floppy drive may not work.

Alternatively, you could burn a custom XP cd with the necessary drivers manually added in.
I had a pirated XP cd with preloaded drivers from driverpacks.net and it could get XP running on any Vista PC I came across (though there were occasionally other deal breakers like missing laptop display drivers. but it would at least run)

FilthyImp
Sep 30, 2002

Anime Deviant

lazydog posted:

Alternatively, you could burn a custom XP cd with the necessary drivers manually added in.
Ah, the days of slipstream Windows installs. Now it just grabs what it needs over the internet.

Helped a friend reinstall OSX for a work computer a year ago and it was all boot into recovery, download from internet.
The 18 year old in me juggling XP discs and hoping the mide he selected wouldn't destroy his docs was making GBS threads himself.

Laslow
Jul 18, 2007
I still run XP in a VM for my Diablo 2 bot. I was able to slipstream most updates and use the POSready sku hack registry setting and it downloaded new updates that were only a week old. I’m guessing it’s even got spectre and meltdown mitigations, since it sees my modernish Xeon with no real abstraction.

In theory, you could run XP as a main OS today if you wanted, if you’ve got drivers. There’s even new Chromium releases from a group of spergs that forked it and new Defender definitions straight from MS as well.

stuffed crust punk
Oct 8, 2004

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Laslow posted:

I still run XP in a VM for my Diablo 2 bot. I was able to slipstream most updates and use the POSready sku hack registry setting and it downloaded new updates that were only a week old. I’m guessing it’s even got spectre and meltdown mitigations, since it sees my modernish Xeon with no real abstraction.

In theory, you could run XP as a main OS today if you wanted, if you’ve got drivers. There’s even new Chromium releases from a group of spergs that forked it and new Defender definitions straight from MS as well.

Where is your avatar from?

PhazonLink
Jul 17, 2010
Probation
Can't post for 11 hours!

Buttcoin purse posted:


I always wondered if that was possible. I wouldn't eat it though.


Frying temps are in the +300 degree F so I'm guessing no. Maybe reheating? but then you go food particles in your oil.

Gonz
Dec 22, 2009

"Jesus, did I say that? Or just think it? Was I talking? Did they hear me?"
https://twitter.com/CoolBoxArt/status/1049615456267620353

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010


I don't remember if it was this game or some other but there's a parser-based game that I think was set in a lunatic asylum, and one of the items is a note with "Don't look up" written on it. If the player LOOKs UP, it's instant death. If, on the other hand, the player GIVEs the NOTE to a non-player character, they'll read it and immediately look up :newlol:

stuffed crust punk
Oct 8, 2004

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Mario no

BattleMaster
Aug 14, 2000

Who really died that day... and who came back?

Laslow
Jul 18, 2007

Regular Nintendo posted:

Where is your avatar from?
I think a yospos image thread. I break a lot of computers, so it makes sense.

Star Man
Jun 1, 2008

There's a star maaaaaan
Over the rainbow
WINAMP LIVES

Vanagoon
Jan 20, 2008


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As long as it still uses a plugin system and doesn't come with a bunch of unremovable poo poo then this is great news.

Don't gently caress it up, Radionomy

Basically all it needs is a way to resize the UI other than the doublesize option, it's either teeny tiny or big and blurry at 1920x1080 even.

Edit: If they don't include Milkdrop then they can get hosed. What is Winamp without it's :pcgaming: :lsd: visualizations?

Vanagoon has a new favorite as of 07:46 on Oct 20, 2018

doctorfrog
Mar 14, 2007

Great.

quote:

Winamp—the late ’90s media player of choice—is making a comeback next year, as TechCrunch reports. The widely popular platform came to prominence along with the rise of MP3s and was purchased by AOL in 1999 before quickly falling out of favor compared to services like iTunes. While it still exists to some degree, a massive overhaul is reportedly on the way, allowing users to access MP3 files, streaming music, and podcasts in one place.

In a statement, Alexandre Saboundjian—CEO of Radionomy, the company that bought Winamp in 2014—said, “People want one single experience. I think Winamp is the perfect player to bring that to everybody.” The relaunch of Winamp, which will be available on desktop and mobile devices, is set to arrive in 2019.
It's going for Spotify and iTunes territory I assume, including on mobile. We'll see, but at best I bet it'll be the same as what's already out there.

For some reason I use Clementine for everything, I dunno, it pleases me in its janky discontinued way. But I also use XMPlay pointed at a directory filled with keygen music (thank you, thread). It has a Winamp skin!

doctorfrog has a new favorite as of 08:08 on Oct 20, 2018

A FUCKIN CANARY!!
Nov 9, 2005


I forget if this has been posted, this might even be the thread where I found out about it, but there is an HTML5 version of Winamp that runs in a browser. Milkdrop included.

https://webamp.org/

stuffed crust punk
Oct 8, 2004

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
Like 4-5 years ago there was a new version of winamp and yeah it was an itunes clone

Though I'm biased because I've hated iTunes from the start, the app has objectively become only a worse victim of its own bloat since then, so maybe a 2010ish-era iTunes clone might be a hit, who knows

Robnoxious
Feb 17, 2004

I still use Winamp 5.666.
Not often, but it's still there... like an old friend... really whipping the llamas rear end.

CaptainSarcastic
Jul 6, 2013



Regular Nintendo posted:

Like 4-5 years ago there was a new version of winamp and yeah it was an itunes clone

Though I'm biased because I've hated iTunes from the start, the app has objectively become only a worse victim of its own bloat since then, so maybe a 2010ish-era iTunes clone might be a hit, who knows

I have always loathed iTunes, too. In the early 2000s Pepsi ran a promotion where you would get a code with each bottle for a free iTunes download. I used to install iTunes, download the song, burn it, and then uninstall iTunes. It has always been bad and only gotten worse over time, even on Apple products.

Pretty good
Apr 16, 2007



Itunes was at its best like five years ago when they had the album view that would generate a bitchin colour palette for the tracklist based on the cover art. gently caress em for getting rid of that + the giant album cover home screen on ios.

Mak0rz
Aug 2, 2008

😎🐗🚬

It better have Winamp 2 skin compatibility. Otherwise what's the loving point

stuffed crust punk
Oct 8, 2004

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
Itunes is in a precarious spot because without ios device management features it could probably be blown up into 2-3 different apps

The trouble is siloing stuff like podcast/video/music collections/purchases falls apart when you introduce loading them onto devices, and looking thru the apple lens of convenience uber alles everything should be in one place, it's just such a loving shitshow the way it is and truthfully i don't have any suggestions to fix this

KozmoNaut
Apr 23, 2008

Happiness is a warm
Turbo Plasma Rifle


The world has moved on, Winamp isn't really relevant anymore.

Yeah, I still have nostalgia for the good old days of 2.95, which I think we can all agree was The Last Proper Version Of Winamp There Ever Was.

These days, Spotify and other streaming services are dominant, and have their own players. For local playback, players like Audacious and Quod Libet are vastly superior (and often feature powerful library management), plus they're free and open source and aren't connected to giant faceless corporations, like Winamp is now.

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Jan 20, 2008


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iTunes was and is an abomination of a program sure, but do any of you remember the Quicktime player that tried to make you buy the "pro" version just to play videos full screen?

Fuuuuuuuuuuck that.

barbecue at the folks
Jul 20, 2007


Vanagoon posted:

iTunes was and is an abomination of a program sure, but do any of you remember the Quicktime player that tried to make you buy the "pro" version just to play videos full screen?

Fuuuuuuuuuuck that.

I always wondered as a kid how awful Mac users must have it, they had to use QuickTime Player for everything. The horror.

I do remember that some version in the late 1990s had rad soundfonts which sounded awesome when you played .MIDs through it. I was used to my SB Pro's usual FM synth and was blown away by the sound quality. We often just sat in my room listening to .MID files (I had hundreds downloaded from random GeoCities MIDI sites) and marveled at how realistic music sounds through QuickTime :allears:

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

📈📊🍪😋



I was an iTunes zealot from the day it was announced, the idea of navigating your music by its native metadata through database queries rather than long inscrutable filenames in folders was a nerdy revelation for me.

Every release past about 2.0 made it objectively worse though and now I have simply stopped listening to music rather than admit I was so wrong

BogDew
Jun 14, 2006

E:\FILES>quickfli clown.fli
QuickTime was revolutionary as when it was introduced you were able to put video as if it was an image into documents or stuff like HyperCard, leading to a boom in early multimedia presentations.

Then in 1999 Jobs noticed how bad video streaming was as wmv or real media was so poor in quality, so Apple proposed to Lucasfilm to use QuickTime for the Phantom Menace trailer, starting the rise of Apple trailers and higher quality video.

However QuickTime on Mac's were the bane of professional video production.

The player seemed to be set at an old colourspace, (rec 609, for DV footage) so everything that gets played through it has a horrid gamma shift that gives everyone the shits that nothing looks right.

Flash Gordon Ramsay
Sep 28, 2004

Grimey Drawer
iTunes was at its best when it was SoundJam MP. Everything apple did to it since they bought it seemingly took it down hill. It’s old and terribly bloated now, and the interface is the absolute worst.

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The Kins
Oct 2, 2004
Winamp 5.8 is out a little ahead of schedule, after a tester leaked it. It's more or less the same as 5.666, but with bugfixes, compatibility improvements on modern Windows, and the dumb "pro" paygate on some features like CD ripping removed.

quote:

Winamp 5.8

* New: Windows Audio (WASAPI) Output plug-in (w.i.p.)
* Improved: Added an option to completely disable Winamp's video support
* Improved: Added an auto-fullscreen option to video prefs
* Improved: Added /ENUMPLAYLISTS to the command-line support
* Improved: Windows 8.1 and 10 compatibility
* Improved: [in_mod] OpenMPT-based Module Player (replaces old MikMod player)
* Improved: [ml_playlists] Added browse path & edit title functions in Ctrl+E editor
* Improved: [Bento] Updated scrollbars and buttons and other tweaks (thanks Martin)
* Improved: [Bento & Modern skins] Added a Playlist Search feature (thanks Victor)
* Fixed: New URLs not being remembered after using Reset history in Open URL dialog
* Fixed: Various memory leaks
* Fixed: [gen_tray] Not showing correct current icon pack in preferences
* Fixed: [in_avi] Divide-by-zero crash with badly formed files (thanks ITDefensor)
* Fixed: [in_mp3] Crashing with some ID3v2 tags
* Fixed: [ml_wire] Slow loading issue
* Fixed: [ssdp] Crash on load if jnetlib was not correctly initialized
* Misc: Minimum required OS is now Win XP sp3 (Windows 7 or higher recommended)
* Misc: More general tweaks, improvements, fixes and optimizations
* Misc: Moved shared DLLs to Winamp\Shared folder
* Removed: All former "Pro" licensed functions (Winamp is now 100% freeware again)
* Removed: gen_jumpex & UnicodeTaskbarFix (making way for native implementations)
* Removed: [in_wm] DRM support
* Replaced: CD playback and ripping now using native Windows API (instead of Sonic)
* Replaced: MP3 Decoder now mpg123 based (instead of Fraunhofer)
* Replaced: AAC Decoder now using Media Foundation (Vista and higher)
* Replaced: H.264 Decoder now using Media Foundation (Vista and higher)
* Replaced: MPEG-4 Pt.2 Decoder now using Media Foundation (Vista and higher)
* Updated: [in_vorbis] libogg 1.3.3 & libvorbis 1.3.6
* Updated: [libFLAC] FLAC 1.3.2
* Updated: [libyajl] libyajl v2.1.0
* Updated: [OpenSSL] OpenSSL v1.0.1i
* Updated: [png] libpng v1.5.24

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