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GotLag posted:"Tin" cans aren't made of tin, and haven't been for half a century. They're aluminium or steel. The steel food cans are tin plated though.
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what, so you're saying my tin ear is made of aluminium?
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Oct 8, 2018 15:18
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Tin cans have never been pure tin. They have always been tinplate steel.
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Oct 8, 2018 15:36
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im the guy who tries to wrangle it bare handed
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Oct 8, 2018 16:06
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I'm pretty sure that guy has his back to it and was signaling someone else to shut down the line or something. But not great situational awareness on his part.
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Oct 8, 2018 16:08
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Flash Gordon Ramsay posted:I'm pretty sure that guy has his back to it and was signaling someone else to shut down the line or something. But not great situational awareness on his part. lol you're right, he faces away from it completely and the insane heat probably spooks him
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Oct 8, 2018 16:13
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madeintaipei posted:Let me guess... serving in the police excuses you from military conscription. The entire firing mechanism is separated from the gun at that point, firing pin, bolt, chamber and receiver included. When the gun is assembled no-one looks into the barrel, or at least should not look. And the army service (or civil equivalent or jail time) is mandatory for all male citizens without almost impossible to get -medical discharge papers, or juridical discharge. Actually doing well in the army makes it easier to get into the national police academy. EDIT: If you want to be really anal about it, the correct procedure is still to look thru from the backside, but it is much easier to see that the rifling is OK and there is no poo poo in the barrel from the customer service side. Der Kyhe fucked around with this message at 17:20 on Oct 8, 2018 |
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Oct 8, 2018 17:15
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Mozi posted:what, so you're saying my tin ear is made of aluminium? "That sounds aluminuminy" doesnt have the same ring.
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Oct 8, 2018 17:22
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Oct 8, 2018 18:04
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Der Kyhe posted:EDIT: If you want to be really anal about it, the correct procedure is still to look thru from the backside, but it is much easier to see that the rifling is OK and there is no poo poo in the barrel from the customer service side.
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Oct 8, 2018 18:14
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Devor posted:We had a subconsultant doing some geotech borings (use small augur to drill down 30-40 feet and take soil samples). We marked a location on the plans, they called Miss Utility who went out and marked the utilities 15-feet around the spot. When they got out there, the spot as marked had augur refusal (they hit concrete) so they needed to move the hole a bit - but the Miss Utility markings didn't leave them any spots that were sufficiently clear from the surrounding utilities. ^^^ Holy gently caress thats a lot of wires. I've been lucky enough to only hit a couple small water lines (one public, one private) both plastic so not easy to locate. And a concrete storm sewer line, also not easy to locate. Story time: When I first started drilling (geotech and environmental) in 2003 I was working on a track mounted auger drill a "Bomb" as they are known around here because for many years they were mounted on a tracked carrier vehicle known as a Muskeg, made by Bombardier. Guy I worked with liked to drive with the tower up, a big no no, but like nobody listened to me because I was just some new rear end dipshit whose opinion didn't matter or whatever. Welp, we were going along this gravel driveway, tower up and off to one side because otherwise we would have been hitting some tree branches. I was off the left side of the rig, driller was driving, and I was sauntering along having a smoke, when I hear the consultant start to yell,, I look up in time to see him pointing at something. I look over in time to see a hydro pole snapping in two, one of our rear jack legs had caught the guide wire. The wires come down, make contact with the tower. I don't remember making any sudden moves, I may have, but just don't remember, but my hard hat fell off, as I looked down at it, the wires started arcing off the tower. This all happened in a split second, though it seemed like minutes or something. Anywho, as I was looking down, the flash was bright and I could see it reflecting off the ground. It was blue. I could also feel the ground vibrating, I assume that was the voltage or whatever going out in to the ground. Still looking down I saw the driller land beside me. He had jumped from the drill, which was still moving. He made it a long way actually, considering the drill was moving (albeit slowly) and he was sitting in the front and the carrier itself was quite longish. Well, the wires stopped making contact with the rig, the arcing stopped, and the ground stopped shaking. The driller, consultant and I stood there smoking and exchanging various phrases including, but not limited to "holy fuckin poo poo", "goddam", "Jesus Christ", "Holy gently caress", "Holy poo poo" and so on. The drill however, kept chugging along in low gear till it hit a ditch and stalled out. Best part about being a helper is you can say "don't look at me, I'm not the driller".
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Oct 8, 2018 18:16
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Jerry Cotton posted:A dwarven clairvoyant? Ha, I always spell this wrong. My mnemonic of "not the way you want to spell it, the other way" isn't very good cakesmith handyman posted:I'd urge a further clarification, they're not witchcraft, they're bullshit. I'm not saying witchcraft works, but it's sometimes used to describe things that work but people don't know why I don't think so, but I imagine they told him not to do it anymore. And rather than witchcraft, do you know what we call something that just works, we don't know why, but we do it anyway? Good Engineering Practice
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Oct 8, 2018 18:23
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Re witching: Saw a city guy locating what I assume was a sewer line in the middle of a road by: Driving van 20 feet, get out, use witching rods, spray green paint, back in van, drive 20 feet, get out, use witching rods, green paint, back in van.... Repeat.
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Oct 8, 2018 18:32
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Devor posted:Ha, I always spell this wrong. My mnemonic of "not the way you want to spell it, the other way" isn't very good Dowsing/witching rods dont work though.
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Oct 8, 2018 18:44
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Piell posted:Dowsing/witching rods dont work though. My old man has two masters degrees, one in geology, and did groundwater work for 40 something years. He insisted on pulling out the ground radar and getting accurate maps for everything at work. He also successfully used a dowsing rod to locate buried T joint in the water pipes, in the neighbor's back yard, in a subdivision that wasn't mapped properly. (The original builder 30 years ago started the plans 20 feet to the south and angled incorrectly. Up where we were, our house was 50 feet further north than it should have been, and the property lines are a mess. Up above us somebody has the original property line running through their house.) There's SOMETHING to it. It's unreliable and you sure as hell wouldn't want to actually use it for anything with legal ramifications, but it's not 100% nonsense. Probably closer to 80%.
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Oct 8, 2018 19:11
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Relentless posted:My old man has two masters degrees, one in geology, and did groundwater work for 40 something years. 50% nonsense, 50% bullshit.
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Oct 8, 2018 19:13
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No, there literally is nothing to it. That was your father using his 40 years of experience to guess where something would be and to not take credit for it in case he was wrong.
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Oct 8, 2018 19:14
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Relentless posted:There's SOMETHING to it. It's unreliable and you sure as hell wouldn't want to actually use it for anything with legal ramifications, but it's not 100% nonsense. Probably closer to 80%. It's 100% nonsense. I can't believe we're still arguing about stuff like this in 2018. "One time his magic rock kept the tigers away, so magic rocks that keep tigers away are only like 80% nonsense."
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Oct 8, 2018 19:20
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duz posted:No, there literally is nothing to it. That was your father using his 40 years of experience to guess where something would be and to not take credit for it in case he was wrong. This. Professional knows the ballpark where something should be, and uses a scapegoat to escape the problem if his intuition was wrong. You know how "the relative/neigbor/support person who knows everything about IT" usually comes up with a solution? There is a limited amount of things that could be wrong and usual suspects that tend to be the troublemakers. If you have any experience on using or configuring stuff for any use, provided that things actually work correctly, you can almost always pinpoint the problem without touching anything.
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Oct 8, 2018 19:20
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Relentless posted:There's SOMETHING to it. It's unreliable and you sure as hell wouldn't want to actually use it for anything with legal ramifications, but it's not 100% nonsense. Probably closer to 80%. He didn't count the times it didn't work. duz posted:No, there literally is nothing to it. That was your father using his 40 years of experience to guess where something would be and to not take credit for it in case he was wrong. Also this
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Oct 8, 2018 19:21
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duz posted:No, there literally is nothing to it. That was your father using his 40 years of experience to guess where something would be and to not take credit for it in case he was wrong. This is exactly it.
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Oct 8, 2018 19:23
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woah, my downsing rods are goin crazy over here! must have hit the motherlode!
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Oct 8, 2018 19:24
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I gotta dowsing rod for ya right here buddy
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Oct 8, 2018 19:34
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Relentless posted:My old man has two masters degrees, one in geology, and did groundwater work for 40 something years. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-k-v7i-QeI
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Oct 8, 2018 19:38
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Piell posted:Dowsing/witching rods dont work though. and yet....  https://twitter.com/thameswater/status/932957516157288448 https://twitter.com/stwater/status/932616285829173248 https://twitter.com/YorkshireWater/status/932650378260307969 https://twitter.com/nwater_care/status/932924306903977984 https://twitter.com/SWWHelp/status/932984738423496704 https://twitter.com/unitedutilities/status/932917937744285696 (they still dont work)
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Oct 8, 2018 19:44
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How does somebody's career not get hosed into oblivion for damaging a sewer line because their magic rod didn't work
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Oct 8, 2018 19:50
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That makes me sad
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Oct 8, 2018 19:51
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Why do we have homeopathy? Why do people refuse to vaccinate? Why is there prayer healing? Why do we grind up rhino horns in to dick powder? Why did Steve Jobs try to cure his cancer with orange juice? 
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Oct 8, 2018 19:53
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whoops wrong thread
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Oct 8, 2018 19:55
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Atticus_1354 posted:That's good stuff but the heart beating through a giant hole in a guy is even better. That is a pro click page. They have a ton of good medical info and I learn a lot. Mainly I have learned the human body can survive absolutely insane amounts of damage and my ifak should only contain a shitload of ketamine I can immediately take if I am horribly injured
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Oct 8, 2018 19:58
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Fallom posted:How does somebody's career not get hosed into oblivion for damaging a sewer line because their magic rod didn't work On the scale of give a gently caress or not you usually only bust out the serious analysis if it's something that will kill the digging tech. Otherwise check the map and shake your dick at it and welp close enough
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Oct 8, 2018 20:04
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Fallom posted:How does somebody's career not get hosed into oblivion for damaging a sewer line because their magic rod didn't work Because they don't put "I cleared the utility using dowsing rods" in the report, they just put "Failed to clear utilities" When a Water Utility sends one of those old dudes out in the field to located a busted pipe, they look at records, look at surface features like water meters/valves, look at where the leak is (might be helpful, might not) and then start carefully digging to find the leaky pipe. Sometimes they're right on if they good plans, sometimes they come up empty. If they use 'conventional' techniques and miss, they might pull out dowsing rods and "use them" to pick the other obvious place (behind the curb where the gas main ISN'T, on the other side of the road) and dig again. If they hit, the dowsing rods worked!
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Oct 8, 2018 20:23
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Devor posted:Because they don't put "I cleared the utility using dowsing rods" in the report, they just put "Failed to clear utilities" Had a supply side water leak in a parking lot once, and the utility sent out an excavator that used the scientific method of banging the excavator bucket on the asphalt in different spots until the parking lot caved in where they were tapping (revealing a sinkhole about 6 feet deep at that point). Very effective!
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Oct 8, 2018 20:29
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There was an explosion at the largest oil refinery in Canada this morning (no one died) so there will hopefully be some cool safety videos about it in a few months. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/new-brunswick/explosion-fire-saint-john-oil-refinery-1.4854460
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Oct 8, 2018 20:42
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I read about the limousine crash in upstate New York where literally all 18 occupants of the limo died and I'm wondering just how grim being the first responder to open the door was. Must have looked like a tin of beans inside Also how it's ridiculous how the limo looked perfectly recognisable from the outside but still no-one survived, thanks to the occupants not being required to wear seatbelts (or I guess the thing not even having them)
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Oct 8, 2018 20:52
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Butterfly Valley posted:I read about the limousine crash in upstate New York where literally all 18 occupants of the limo died and I'm wondering just how grim being the first responder to open the door was. Must have looked like a tin of beans inside In the picture I saw of the vehicle in the ditch, the limo looked way too short for 18 people and the news says it previously failed inspection. I'm wondering if it may have been broken in half by the collision with the SUV and tree.
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Oct 8, 2018 21:02
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chitoryu12 posted:In the picture I saw of the vehicle in the ditch, the limo looked way too short for 18 people and the news says it previously failed inspection. I'm wondering if it may have been broken in half by the collision with the SUV and tree. SUV Limos are generically deathtraps, i expect them to always be cobbled together with no regard for the integrity of the original body or safety standards as such
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Oct 8, 2018 21:13
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No one knew cutting a car in half and making it longer than originally designed could be so complicated.
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Oct 8, 2018 21:16
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Lurking Haro posted:Some cans still have a tin coating on the inside. I have a piece of graphite still embedded in my thigh from an unfortunate encounter in kindergarten with a testy female.
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Butterfly Valley posted:I read about the limousine crash in upstate New York where literally all 18 occupants of the limo died and I'm wondering just how grim being the first responder to open the door was. Must have looked like a tin of beans inside My wife is from that area and is an ED nurse and mentioned there is a specific trauma from car accidents that resulted in an essentially severed brain stem. It had to be something completely catastrophic for no one in the limo to survive and the photos I saw didnt really show any fire damage. It didnt even happen in that remote of an area so the fact that no one even survived long enough to get to a trauma center is pretty insane.
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