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MysticalMachineGun posted:Sorry mate, next year at the earliest False flag operation to take our guns and/or complete fabrication to take our guns
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MysticalMachineGun posted:What conspiracy theories are out there regarding Port Arthur? It was a psyop to ban guns.
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Oct 10, 2018 02:12
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Count Chocula posted:The damage caused by Fukushima has been completely exaggerated. So the score for nuclear proponents stands at: The two for it are both misinformation spreaders. Way to go team rational. 
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Oct 10, 2018 02:16
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MysticalMachineGun posted:Sorry mate, next year at the earliest You don't wanna go down that rabbit hole
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Oct 10, 2018 02:19
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JBP posted:It was a psyop to ban guns. I love that Port Arthur is a conspiracy, but the Tampa/Children overboard affairs are cool and good and had nothing to do with keeping an unpopular government in power.
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Oct 10, 2018 02:22
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https://gumshoenews.com/2016/02/04/an-unexpected-gift-from-the-attorney-general-of-tasmania/
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Oct 10, 2018 02:31
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Don Dongington posted:The thing I look forward the most to in the 2018 election is the increasingly likely removal of Cory Bernardi and Senator Lionhat from public office. Bernardi got a 6 year term because he was high up on the Liberal ticket. He's not up for re-election this time.
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Oct 10, 2018 02:37
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MysticalMachineGun posted:This religious freedoms poo poo is the most arrogant garbage I've ever seen. States already allow discrimination against staff on sexual orientation and now they want to expand it so they can put those little gay kids in their place too! The good thing is this now becomes an issue for the victorian elections, especially since the liberal mormon party are the opposition.
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Oct 10, 2018 02:48
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MysticalMachineGun posted:What conspiracy theories are out there regarding Port Arthur? In addition to what others have said, speculation about a second shooter.
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You Am I posted:You don't wanna go down that rabbit hole Yeah I do. I love rabbit holes. Don Dongington posted:I love that Port Arthur is a conspiracy, but the Tampa/Children overboard affairs are cool and good and had nothing to do with keeping an unpopular government in power. It does worry me sometimes. Stuff we on the left can point to as a provable conspiracy but nothing ever happens so maybe we're just as paranoid sometimes, y'know? Then I remember that the right-wing execute their conspiracies out in the open with a compliant press saying it's a good thing and go back to being angry.
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Oct 10, 2018 03:10
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Don Dongington posted:I love that Port Arthur is a conspiracy, but the Tampa/Children overboard affairs are cool and good and had nothing to do with keeping an unpopular government in power.
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Oct 10, 2018 03:19
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https://twitter.com/workmanalice/status/1049846927511056384 Geez 
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Oct 10, 2018 03:21
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snoremac posted:It has its analogue in Americans believing Democrats hold pedo orgies under pizza parlours but that Brett Kavanaugh is an innocent man with a rapist doppleganger. Pizza parlours that don't have basements, even.
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Oct 10, 2018 03:23
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Count Chocula posted:The damage caused by Fukushima has been completely exaggerated. Nice meltdown. https://twitter.com/workmanalice/status/1049828550910476288 What a druggo.
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Oct 10, 2018 03:29
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This facile, stupid poo poo is as bad from the left as it is from the right. All these comments going on about drinking death stats. Piss off.
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Oct 10, 2018 03:31
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its cool that labor are looking to the democrats for inspiration rather than the successes of labor in the uk
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Oct 10, 2018 03:35
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Not being able to face Australia sober is the most relatable thing ScoMo has ever done.
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Oct 10, 2018 03:42
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What about Ziplinegate?quote:The release of the Development Application (DA) is where it all gets interesting.
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Oct 10, 2018 03:54
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NSW now fines $535 + instant 3 month ban for low range BAC. this also includes first time MDT positive test results. reminder that the MDTs do not test for opiates, benzos, or other prescription drugs that are the majority of drug driving related accidents, just THC, MDMA and Meth (and some cocaine sometimes if they are running the trial) so you can smoke a doobie on friday evening, not drive all weekend and lose your license on Monday morning on the way to work despite being totally sober.
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Federal Treasurer Josh Frydenberg has poured cold water on the NSW premier's call to halve her state's immigration intake, saying Australia is a "proud migrant nation".
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Oct 10, 2018 03:59
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Laserface posted:NSW now fines $535 + instant 3 month ban for low range BAC. this also includes first time MDT positive test results. I thought those tests worked in a way that THC was a window of 24 hours but maybe that's a different test?
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Oct 10, 2018 04:00
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JBP posted:This facile, stupid poo poo is as bad from the left as it is from the right. All these comments going on about drinking death stats. Piss off. Yeah exactly, this has to be the only non-terrible poo poo Scott Morrison has done over the last 3 weeks. Who loving cares, it's a beer.
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Oct 10, 2018 04:04
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JBP posted:Federal Treasurer Josh Frydenberg has poured cold water on the NSW premier's call to halve her state's immigration intake, saying Australia is a "proud migrant nation". Behind Western Europe I believe the highest migrant numbers are from China, both groups which Liberals see as forming their current and possibly future electoral base. They do not want them to stop and the dogwhistle attempt is being shut down from up high by pointing out "these people vote for us you loving dipshits".
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Cartoon posted:* Misrepresentation. No. Australia has never banned nuclear power. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_power_in_Australia http://www.legislation.gov.au/Details/C2012C00801/Download wiki posted:The Commonwealth Environment Protection and Biodiversity Conservation Act 1999prohibits certain nuclear actions specified in s.22A unless a federal approval is obtained. It specifically prohibits nuclear power generation in s.140A (an amendment insisted upon by the Australian Democrats). The Act states that the Minister must not approve an action consisting of or involving the construction or operation of a nuclear fuel fabrication plant, or a nuclear power station, or an enrichment plant, or a reprocessing facility. Literally banned by thread favourites, the democrats. I can't be bothered to look up the mining regulations per state, but iirc NSW views uranium specifically as a contaminant so it's been taken off the geological ore or whatever maps, and per wiki Victoria has banned exploration outright. Technically, unless you've a specific exemption, the nature of which escapes me, you aren't allowed to process or refine uranium beyond yellowcake, hence the past SA nuclear industry enquiry. Also nice meltdown
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JBP posted:I thought those tests worked in a way that THC was a window of 24 hours but maybe that's a different test? if you smoke regularly the 'active thc' that it detects in saliva can be there in an above-threshold amount for up to a week. I believe the tests can detect as low as 50mcg/L, and that amount is in your saliva for an irregular smoking for up to a day afterwards.
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Laserface posted:if you smoke regularly the 'active thc' that it detects in saliva can be there in an above-threshold amount for up to a week. That's dumb as gently caress, I thought someone already challenged one of those tests in court and got off.
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MysticalMachineGun posted:Sorry mate, next year at the earliest https://skeptoid.com/episodes/4253 Skeptoid did an episode on them.
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JBP posted:That's dumb as gently caress, I thought someone already challenged one of those tests in court and got off. yes. its a test for presence of a substance, not a test for impairment due to said substance, and it is wrong as gently caress. you should definitely not be high and driving, and I am not advocating that you should be allowed to, however these tests only show for the presence of a substance, often in a non-active level. its hosed and it will be a definite roadblock to any kind of legalisation of cannabis.
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Laserface posted:yes. its a test for presence of a substance, not a test for impairment due to said substance, and it is wrong as gently caress. I must have been under the false assumption that the police tests were different to or more accurate to impairment than ones in a workplace. When I organised warehouses I had so many good workers (many delegates because you randomly test them more often, it's random though!) get shafted by drug tests that revealed they enjoyed some weed on Saturday night. Super Cheap Auto's warehouse used drug tests to bone 4 out of 7 delegates at once after learning they had all been at a party together and that it was likely they'd nab someone in the zero tolerance of your personal life test.
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Oct 10, 2018 04:29
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JBP posted:I must have been under the false assumption that the police tests were different to or more accurate to impairment than ones in a workplace. When I organised warehouses I had so many good workers (many delegates because you randomly test them more often, it's random though!) get shafted by drug tests that revealed they enjoyed some weed on Saturday night. Super Cheap Auto's warehouse used drug tests to bone 4 out of 7 delegates at once after learning they had all been at a party together and that it was likely they'd nab someone in the zero tolerance of your personal life test. its super cool and good that people who are high as a loving kite on Endone or Valium will have zero issue passing a MDT. I take Dexamphetamine for ADHD and I am very paranoid that this is going to get my license suspended when I cant produce a valid script. also I smoke weed but I dont drive when I am partaking.
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Nanpa posted:Literally banned by thread favourites, the democrats. Uhhhhh... I think only ScreamingLlama is a democrat die hard in this thread. I was under the impression thread consensus was that they were idiots for caving on the GST and a perfect example of useless centrists. This information on nuclear also certainly doesn't help my view of them.
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Nanpa posted:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_power_in_Australia Third pro nuke talking bullshit. I'm seeing a pattern.
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hambeet posted:I thought dexies don't show up? some people say it has, some people say it doesnt. my doctor advised to carry an empty bottle in my car with my script/name on it (empty because you dont want to store the medication in a hot car)
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Oct 10, 2018 05:12
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Laserface posted:some people say it has, some people say it doesnt. my doctor advised to carry an empty bottle in my car with my script/name on it (empty because you dont want to store the medication in a hot car) Is there no way the doctor can just give you a note to keep in the car? That's ridiculous.
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JBP posted:Is there no way the doctor can just give you a note to keep in the car? That's ridiculous. yeah, they can, im not seeing him for a month though. I mean theres also reports of people punching cones while driving and being tested minutes later who test negative. so who knows if they are even effective. for me at least, when I am stoned my mouth is so dry Id be lucky to dampen the swab at all.
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ewe2 posted:Nice meltdown. These people are not drunk, as you suppose; it is only nine o'clock in the morning.
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Oct 10, 2018 05:19
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Oct 10, 2018 05:34
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If weed isn't legalised then testing to see if you've had it in your system at any point is valid, I guess If it were legalised they'd have to change to measuring impairment level in some way
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MysticalMachineGun posted:If weed isn't legalised then testing to see if you've had it in your system at any point is valid, I guess Driving under the influence of weed and actually being in possession of weed (because AFAIK that's what they charge you with even if they catch you ripping a bong?) are two very different offences. Depending on your locality, the latter may be a much more minor offence. I've never heard of anyone being charged for being stoned, it's always for having the prohibited substance in ones possession. It brings up an interesting argument, because feasibly if you're not impaired at the time of the test, and you're not in possession of anything, the court can't convict you under any existing laws without really stretching the word of the law?
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