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thespaceinvader posted:The issue with TFA and with TLJ from the perspective of X-Wing is that there were literally only 4 ship models in the first film (well, technically 5, but two of them were almost identical, I really wish they'd been braver with the /sf) and TLJ then added a whole 3 more (4 if you include that one personal shuttle, 5 if you include the unarmed civilian yacht). All but one of which have already been made. TLJ also dropped that the TIE Bomber is still in FO use, so maybe we'll see that.
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banned from Starbucks posted:Technically the T-85 isnt even part of the resistance. Its part of the new government. I guess they could retcon it to "the resistance had some but they all blew up before TFA" or whatever but it wouldnt make much sense. This is the dumbest take on why T-85s don't fit the Resistance faction.
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Strobe posted:This is the dumbest take on why T-85s don't fit the Resistance faction. Nah. The whole point of them even name dropping the T-80 in whatever book was to show that Leia was getting old hand me down T-75s (almost like the rebels/resistance being scrappy and making due is a theme) for the Resistance to use. If they actually had T-80s why wouldnt Ace Pilot� Poe have one? Do you think like every ship shown that isnt a FO is just gonna be lumped into Resistance? banned from Starbucks fucked around with this message at 05:54 on Oct 10, 2018 |
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banned from Starbucks posted:Do you think like every ship shown that isnt a FO is just gonna be lumped into Resistance? Pretty much, yes, aside from scum stuff like those 3 pirate ships
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Oct 10, 2018 06:14
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The T-85's were jumping into hyperspace to provide information on the FO to the Resistance, so it's a good bet they'll be part of the faction regardless of being officially New Republic or whatever.
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Oct 10, 2018 06:18
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I don't understand why someone playing the X-Wing Miniatures Game wouldn't want another X-Wing added to the game. Who gives a poo poo if the Resistance canonically used them directly or not? At best you're splitting hairs.
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Oct 10, 2018 08:07
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Put Wedge in the drat thing and watch him become the mass-murderer of anything TIE he’s always dreamed of being 
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Oct 10, 2018 13:29
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ConfusedUs posted:I've run that exact list! I ended up going triple Juke, though. With Vader crew in play, it's like triple re-usable crack shot. CD I've looked at, but I didn't think it allowed you to decloak through an obstacle? Decloak isn't a boost or barrel roll, technically, right? Being able to park on a rock and shoot is a neat trick and would have helped against that tugboat, but I don't think it generally is something I'd be doing. Juke Duchess was my original plan, and I might do that over the Shield Upgrade, I'm not sure. I did end up evading a good bit, and the synergy is strong with other Juke ships. Afterburners are...just too many points. I'd toss them on Soontir before Duchess to give me Evade > BR > Boost > pilot focus shenanigans for sure. Soontir has definitely been my MVP in most games, even with his somewhat unreliable damage when he's being evasive.
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The Gate posted:CD I've looked at, but I didn't think it allowed you to decloak through an obstacle? Decloak isn't a boost or barrel roll, technically, right? Being able to park on a rock and shoot is a neat trick and would have helped against that tugboat, but I don't think it generally is something I'd be doing. Yes, decloaking is technically a barrel roll now. If you read the description on it, it says something like "perform a boost or roll using the [2-speed] templates"
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ConfusedUs posted:Yes, decloaking is technically a barrel roll now. If you read the description on it, it says something like "perform a boost or roll using the [2-speed] templates" Yup. Straight up says it's a boost or a barrel roll, and clarifies that you need to 'declare which type of boost or barrel roll it is going to perform before placing a template on the play area.' If that boost or barrel roll fails, the decloak fails, I believe is the idea. "If a decloak fails, the ship is returned to it's prior position before it attempted the decloak, and the cloak token is not removed.'
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Well poo poo, that makes it a lot more interesting to me. Landing on an obstacle after a move is one thing, plenty of times that doesn't really get you out of arc or anything. But going through a rock into a spot you can't normally get at all, pre movement...hmm.
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Oct 10, 2018 14:37
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Collision detector is baller yes. On Whisper, I feel that Juke +Vader is mandatory. Stealth device and CD are optional and I prefer them in roughly that order.
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Oct 10, 2018 14:44
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ConfusedUs posted:Collision detector is baller yes. SD on Whisper was great. Going to 3 dice with a ship that often has multiple tokens for defense is huge.
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banned from Starbucks posted:Technically the T-85 isnt even part of the resistance. Its part of the new government. I guess they could retcon it to "the resistance had some but they all blew up before TFA" or whatever but it wouldnt make much sense. Yeah, that's true. They were actual New Republic fighters with the New Republic logo and everything. I still want them, though 
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Oct 10, 2018 17:41
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Madurai posted:TLJ also dropped that the TIE Bomber is still in FO use, so maybe we'll see that. The promo materials did, but it wasn't actually IN the film...
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thespaceinvader posted:The promo materials did, but it wasn't actually IN the film... It's one of the holos whathisname the thief guy shows Finn during his "everything is morally gray" speech.
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Oct 10, 2018 19:08
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Madurai posted:It's one of the holos whathisname the thief guy shows Finn during his "everything is morally gray" speech. I thought it was a tie interceptor.
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Oct 10, 2018 19:15
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bunnyofdoom posted:I thought it was a tie interceptor. There's a squint a bomber an a wing and an x wing but IIRC they're the OT models, and they're basically in there as a moral lecture not a 'ships in use' thing.
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Oct 10, 2018 19:55
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thespaceinvader posted:There's a squint a bomber an a wing and an x wing but IIRC they're the OT models, and they're basically in there as a moral lecture not a 'ships in use' thing. The AT-ST they show is the First Order version, and the X-wing is a T-70. It may very well be that the FO bomber and interceptor are basically unchanged from the Imperial models except for paintjobs, but it's definitely presented in-universe as contemporary.
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Isn't the TIE/fo the same as a TIE/ln except for paint job? (I mean ignoring stats, obv.)
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Finster Dexter posted:Isn't the TIE/fo the same as a TIE/ln except for paint job? (I mean ignoring stats, obv.) Ehhhhhh it depends on how spergy and nitpicky you want to get about it but for all intents and purposes ya, it's essentially the same ship.
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Oct 10, 2018 20:49
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Finster Dexter posted:Isn't the TIE/fo the same as a TIE/ln except for paint job? (I mean ignoring stats, obv.) They have shields, so....yes basically, but with some upgrades. Tech slot also in game terms.
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Oct 10, 2018 20:58
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Finster Dexter posted:Isn't the TIE/fo the same as a TIE/ln except for paint job? (I mean ignoring stats, obv.) There are extremely minor differences in the scale, engine design, wing supports, laser "nubs" and solar panel texture, but they're like 95% the same thing. edit: added some photo evidence   
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Oct 10, 2018 21:01
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Frankly I just want more FO versions of regular Imperial ships. I love the colors, I love how they're the same but meaner. Like a bulldog on steroids and cocaine. It's a crime that the Punisher isn't the First Order version of a TIE Bomber.
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ConfusedUs posted:Frankly I just want more FO versions of regular Imperial ships. I love the colors, I love how they're the same but meaner. Like a bulldog on steroids and cocaine. I basically agree with this and I love seeing the custom paint jobs of FO versions of like squints and defenders and stuff.
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plester1 posted:There are extremely minor differences in the scale, engine design, wing supports, laser "nubs" and solar panel texture, but they're like 95% the same thing. That socket on the back is a viewport, not an engine. I failed a saving throw.
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Oct 10, 2018 21:40
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Ceebees posted:That socket on the back is a viewport, not an engine. Nah, the TIE/fo and the TIE/sf are not the same as each other OR the TIE/ln. The /fo is shown above, the /sf has the rear window, the mini turret underneath, the wing cogs, and the sensor array. 
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thespaceinvader posted:Nah, the TIE/fo and the TIE/sf are not the same as each other OR the TIE/ln. The /fo is shown above, the /sf has the rear window, the mini turret underneath, the wing cogs, and the sensor array. The big circle on the back of the /fo is a window, too.
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Finster Dexter posted:The big circle on the back of the /fo is a window, too. Source? TTBOMK it's the same as on the /ln, the ionisation reactor, whatever that means.
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It's the doohicky that lets the twin ion engine nozzles work and helps make the TIE fighter noise.
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I having been playing too much Boba and want something different. Thinking about running this list this week. Fenn Rau (68) Fearless (3) Adv. Proton Torpedoes (6) Dalan Oberos (54) Predator (2) Advanced Sensors (8) 4-LOM (49) Advanced Sensors (8) Mist Hunter (2) Two mobile and hard hitters with a jamming 4-Lom. Dumb or doable?
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SOlid for sure but the APTs aren't worth taking at all. Dump them and buy Intimidation and 000 on LOM.
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Ahh ya, probably better. I had 8 or so points to mess around with.
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Some friends and I are going to try some games with randomly generated, cross faction quick build lists. Threat level 8. I ended up with Lieutenant Kestal, Dace Bonearm, Roark Garnet and Benthic Two Tubes. This is going to be dumb as hall, and really fun.
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Slandible posted:Ahh ya, probably better. I had 8 or so points to mess around with. If you have spare space, bump up to Guri over Dalan. She's just better; more mods >>>>>>>>> more manoeuvrability, especially on a StarViper. But I really want to try AS Dalan at some point anyway. For the silly. But I suspect he'll join Ciena Ree and Moralo Eval on the 'fun but not remotely good' pile.
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Oct 11, 2018 00:33
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How many people who play this game, owned and loved the technical manuals that came out way before the prequels? Its all of us isn't it?
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Oct 11, 2018 00:38
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Hells yes Dorling Kindersley Visual Encyclopaedias.
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ConfusedUs posted:Imperial Fives Someone is currently playing this exact list on the Gold Squadron stream on youtube.
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KongGeorgeVII posted:Someone is currently playing this exact list on the Gold Squadron stream on youtube. Some guy from Gold Squadron was at the Tulsa monthly last weekend and I played it against him. So the secret is out!
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thespaceinvader posted:If you have spare space, bump up to Guri over Dalan. She's just better; more mods >>>>>>>>> more manoeuvrability, especially on a StarViper. I've been running Guri alot too, but I want some change and Dalan sounds super fun. Hell I've seen people in my meta running a couple bare bone Black Sun Vipers just because. Starviper supremacy, I loving love it.
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