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zoux posted:David Aja is insanely good. For more incredibly well portrayed fights check out his run on Immortal Iron Fist. The Seeds, which is outstanding.
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Infinitum posted:Venom #6. It does have a lot of similarities (both art and story aspects) to Venom: The Hunger, which was the best 90's Venom comic, so that makes sense.
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Gavok posted:It does have a lot of similarities (both art and story aspects) to Venom: The Hunger, which was the best 90's Venom comic, so that makes sense. The best 90s Venom comic is Seed of Darkness, featuring Krobaa, the Living Darkness.
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zoux posted:David Aja is insanely good. For more incredibly well portrayed fights check out his run on Immortal Iron Fist. I still want a 12-issue series by Aja and Fraction, teaming up Barton and Rand. HAWKFIST AND IRON GUY would rock.
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Sep 26, 2018 01:22
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Lurdiak posted:The best 90s Venom comic is Seed of Darkness, featuring Krobaa, the Living Darkness. This disagreement only shows that Len Kaminski should have written more Venom comics.
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Avenger's World was kinda underrated. I loving love Shang Chi.
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Spider-Ock. Not sure if bad rear end or disturbing?
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 nothing more badass or inspiring than a nude man overcoming a sea of spiders
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And that's how you get the "Americans eat 8 spiders on average every year" statistic.
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zoux posted:And that's how you get the "Americans eat 8 spiders on average every year" statistic. Russian interference! 
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Punkin Spunkin posted:
Kraven was one hosed up dude.
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Punkin Spunkin posted:
That night: Kraven: I ate 500 spiders to defeat you. Spidey: what Kraven: I can feel it working
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DarkCrawler posted:Kraven was one hosed up dude.
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Punkin Spunkin posted:
It's cool art but it's one of those times where the panels are supposed to have a lead-up to the main action that doesn't work on the page. On film, seeing a single spider come down into view and then more and then more would be cool but there's no way when you look at the page that you don't immediately see all the panels with thousands of spiders (and naked Kraven).
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DarkCrawler posted:Kraven was one hosed up dude. There's a What If about that story and when he's doing this bit, he's ranting and raving. In the middle of his ramblings, he says, "Why am I doing this?" before going back to his nonsense and I always found that especially creepy.
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Oct 10, 2018 21:15
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All that raving is technically his thoughts from the originals, but making him just yell it out loud in flat angles in the What If makes it a lot dumber-looking.
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Oct 10, 2018 21:18
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Gavok posted:There's a What If about that story and when he's doing this bit, he's ranting and raving. In the middle of his ramblings, he says, "Why am I doing this?" before going back to his nonsense and I always found that especially creepy. Sometimes the insanity abates for a bit, I mean you can't be batshit 24/7, need to take breaks now and again.
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davidspackage posted:That night: I mean this is basically what happens in the story. I don’t think Spider-Man ever finds out what all that was about
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zoux posted:And that's how you get the "Americans eat 8 spiders on average every year" statistic. So now we know who "Spiders Georg" is.
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Gavok posted:There's a What If about that story and when he's doing this bit, he's ranting and raving. In the middle of his ramblings, he says, "Why am I doing this?" before going back to his nonsense and I always found that especially creepy. Is that the "What if Kraven had killed Spider-Man?" one? I think that's the meanest What If of them all.
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Wheat Loaf posted:Is that the "What if Kraven had killed Spider-Man?" one? I think that's the meanest What If of them all. The meanest What If of them all is the one where Wolverine and Conan trade places in time and Conan fucks up the trial of the Phoenix and the Phoenix blows up the entire universe.
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Zil posted:Sometimes the insanity abates for a bit, I mean you can't be batshit 24/7, need to take breaks now and again. Sometimes you just need some time alone by yourself with yourself  
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Is that the actual backstory to that page? Kraven is eating hundreds of spiders to prepare to fight Spiderman? Is this the supervillain equivalent of like "eating bugs to own the libs?"
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Glagha posted:Is that the actual backstory to that page? Kraven is eating hundreds of spiders to prepare to fight Spiderman? Is this the supervillain equivalent of like "eating bugs to own the libs?" He's Kraven the Hunter -- he's all about getting close to his prey and almost becoming one of them in order to kill.
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Glagha posted:Is that the actual backstory to that page? Kraven is eating hundreds of spiders to prepare to fight Spiderman? Is this the supervillain equivalent of like "eating bugs to own the libs?" Kravens last Hunt is basically a story about Kraven mentally breaking down
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Oct 10, 2018 22:49
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Plus spiders have a lot of protein.
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Glagha posted:Is that the actual backstory to that page? Kraven is eating hundreds of spiders to prepare to fight Spiderman? Is this the supervillain equivalent of like "eating bugs to own the libs?" I mean it all culminates in him defeating Spider-Man, burying him alive, and deciding he's the new Spider-Man. This is the crazy hunter equivalent of Rocky's eggs in a blender.
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He heard about the "I'm summoning the spiders" incident and thought "yes, that makes sense, I can work with this"
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There's also the part where he (presumably) milks the venom from thousands of venomous spiders, pours it in a bowl, then laps at it like a dog. I'm guessing his line of thinking was that he would gain their power this way, but instead he just grabs at his throat and falls over. good day for a bris posted:I mean it all culminates in him defeating Spider-Man, burying him alive, and deciding he's the new Spider-Man. This is the crazy hunter equivalent of Rocky's eggs in a blender. Oh yeah, when he is dressing up as Spider-man he uses a grappling hook on a rope to swing around like Spidey. And then because coincidences are not a thing, he just happens to rescue Mary Jane from some muggers, who has a silent freak out at "Who the hell is this guy dressed like Peter?" Also, it's the black costume at this time, but Kraven's is cloth. I don't recall if this is pre or post Venom and if we are at the black cloth version of the suit or not. At the end of the story Kraven digs up Spider-man who was just tranquilized (for 4 days) and buried in a coffin, claps him on the shoulder and says "Great hunt, you are worthy prey. Go. Live", and then blows his brains out in his trophy room
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Wheat Loaf posted:Is that the "What if Kraven had killed Spider-Man?" one? I think that's the meanest What If of them all. Lurdiak posted:The meanest What If of them all is the one where Wolverine and Conan trade places in time and Conan fucks up the trial of the Phoenix and the Phoenix blows up the entire universe. Nah, the meanest one of all is the What If for Atlantis Attacks which instead of being caused by one moment is caused by three separate things failing, followed by 40 pages of every Marvel character being killed one at a time. ...or the one about Bruce Banner being a wife-beater. That one's pretty rough.
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Kraven's Last Hunt is a great story and Rich Evans is an idiot.
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CzarChasm posted:There's also the part where he (presumably) milks the venom from thousands of venomous spiders, pours it in a bowl, then laps at it like a dog. I'm guessing his line of thinking was that he would gain their power this way, but instead he just grabs at his throat and falls over. It’s cloth. This was right after the marriage and venom has not appeared yet.
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Villains should compare notes more because then maybe they'd know that plotting to kill Spider-Man doesn't work but getting rid of him to replace him as a better version actually has a good track record.
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Kraven defeats Spider-man early on in that story but he doesn't believe that is enough, he also wants to be a better Spider-man, so he begins doing weird poo poo like that and also going out to fight crime dressed like Spidey(and killing some people along the way) while also going after Vermin, a previous villain that Peter couldn't beat on his own and needed Captain America's help to take down. When he does all that and proves to himself that he is the better hunter and the best Spider-man he declares himself satisfied with the outcome and suicides(But before leaves a note explaining to the police that he was the one dressed as Spider-man the entire time). Peter then goes after the Vermin on his own and manages to hold him off.
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Lurdiak posted:The meanest What If of them all is the one where Wolverine and Conan trade places in time and Conan fucks up the trial of the Phoenix and the Phoenix blows up the entire universe. And the last words in the Universe is Conan yelling out “CROM!” I found that so funny.
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Gavok posted:Nah, the meanest one of all is the What If for Atlantis Attacks which instead of being caused by one moment is caused by three separate things failing, followed by 40 pages of every Marvel character being killed one at a time. I remember not buying that in the store because it was so murder-happy. It wasn't until I was older and rereading it digitally that I realized just how much contrivance is required in the first few pages before the writer can get to his full-universe murder spree. That and "the X-Men Lost Inferno" really do go way out of their way to justify the ensuing slaughter.
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Gavok posted:There's a What If about that story and when he's doing this bit, he's ranting and raving. In the middle of his ramblings, he says, "Why am I doing this?" before going back to his nonsense and I always found that especially creepy. Well, now I'm curious. Do you recall what issue? Maybe we need a seasonal "Spooky panels" thread.
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Lurdiak posted:Kraven's Last Hunt is a great story and Rich Evans is an idiot. Are the two related or are you just saying? I'm curious.
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Wanderer posted:I remember not buying that in the store because it was so murder-happy. It wasn't until I was older and rereading it digitally that I realized just how much contrivance is required in the first few pages before the writer can get to his full-universe murder spree. The entire Ultimatum storyline is like this. Just mean and violent. Really was a low point in my Ultimate Universe read through.
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