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Really Pants posted:TitS was 1 game that turned into 3 so the odds are probably not great Pretty sure that's just FC/SC.
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If there is anything they should be embarrassed about it would be their need to add more and more characters to clutter up the story.
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Oct 11, 2018 15:24
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Cs4 took the criticism of only being able to romance three and made most of them datable
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Oct 11, 2018 15:26
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Tae posted:Cs4 took the criticism of only being able to romance three and made most of them datable In fairness, there was always going to be blowback after most of the female characters had pretty romantic ending events in CS2 if you went with them (the ones who didn't were, what? Alfin and Millium?), and then CS3 proceeded to give most of them nothing. So CS4 at least adding back events for them wasn't exactly too unexpected. A bunch of new characters getting the datable events too in CS4 did get a bit silly though.
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Oct 11, 2018 16:28
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Really Pants posted:TitS was 1 game that turned into 3 so the odds are probably not great 2 games. FC and SC. The 3rd was only made because Kondo wanted to make more foreshadowing about future arcs. Glad he did too because 3rd is my favorite.
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Oct 11, 2018 18:46
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CS4 should allow Rean to date himself
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Oct 11, 2018 19:00
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Rean X Ordine. Valimar gets a huge tarp and bites it in anger.
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Oct 11, 2018 19:10
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Lord Koth posted:In fairness, there was always going to be blowback after most of the female characters had pretty romantic ending events in CS2 if you went with them (the ones who didn't were, what? Alfin and Millium?), and then CS3 proceeded to give most of them nothing. So CS4 at least adding back events for them wasn't exactly too unexpected. A bunch of new characters getting the datable events too in CS4 did get a bit silly though. Of the final bonding events in CS2, Alisa, Emma and Laura are the only explicitly romantic ones, but you're still right.
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Oct 11, 2018 19:16
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You have a different definition of explicitly romantic than I do.
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Oct 11, 2018 19:18
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Some Numbers posted:Of the final bonding events in CS2, Alisa, Emma and Laura are the only explicitly romantic ones, but you're still right. Tbh, Laura (and I think Emma) could even be interpreted as platonic from Rean's POV (he just hugs Laura, for example). Alisa I think is the only one Rean is directly romantic towards. My opinion is that older CS3/4 Rean actually matches best with Claire for reasons I can't really articulate; just seems to fit best. Edit: Laura in particular gave me a strong "this poor girls knows she stands no chance and has convinced herself she is okay with being Rean's platonic sword friend." Kinda reminds me of Meiya from Muc-Luv Alternative. vv I'm talking about CS3 Ytlaya fucked around with this message at 19:26 on Oct 11, 2018 |
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Oct 11, 2018 19:21
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Ytlaya posted:Tbh, Laura (and I think Emma) could even be interpreted as platonic from Rean's POV (he just hugs Laura, for example). Alisa I think is the only one Rean is directly romantic towards. Nah he straight up says he loves Laura and then a couple scenes in the epilogue straight up show them as a couple if you choose her.
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Oct 11, 2018 19:24
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Amppelix posted:You have a different definition of explicitly romantic than I do. I must, because I'm having trouble figuring out how a guy saying "I love you" to one girl and not another is not explicitly romantic. Ytlaya posted:vv I'm talking about CS3 For one, most of us haven't played CS3 and for another, I was specifically responding to someone saying "most of the final CS2 girl events are romantic," which is decidedly not the case.
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Oct 11, 2018 19:31
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Shinjobi posted:CS4 should allow Rean to date himself  Falcom give us special editions where we can play as a girl
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Oct 11, 2018 19:58
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Some Numbers posted:I must, because I'm having trouble figuring out how a guy saying "I love you" to one girl and not another is not explicitly romantic. I could be wrong, but I suspect Amppelix saying that "you have a different idea of explicitly romantic than I do," is in reference to you thinking that those are the ONLY ones that are explicitly romantic. Like, you don't have to flat out say "I love you" or kiss someone for it to be pretty blatantly romantic. I mean, I don't even particularly care for the option of Sara (nearly 10 years older and his teacher makes me really look sideways), but their final bonding event and nighttime epilogue is explicitly " I'll grow and become the right man for you" "I'll be waiting" - seriously, how you do read that and go "nope, not implied romance at all"? Here's a video with all the CS2 classroom and nighttime epilogues stacked on top of each other, for reference: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baPxtZ-koQQ You can pull the actual final bonding events too, of course, and they generally track the same. Of the exceptions, Millium isn't particularly romantic in any way, and Alfin's blatantly crushing on him but Rean doesn't notice.
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Oct 11, 2018 20:36
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I thought it was a sex joke You know explicit.
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Oct 11, 2018 20:38
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Some Numbers posted:Of the final bonding events in CS2, Alisa, Emma and Laura are the only explicitly romantic ones, but you're still right. Sara kisses Rean, and tells him to come back when its not morally questionable.
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Lord Koth posted:I could be wrong, but I suspect Amppelix saying that "you have a different idea of explicitly romantic than I do," is in reference to you thinking that those are the ONLY ones that are explicitly romantic. Like, you don't have to flat out say "I love you" or kiss someone for it to be pretty blatantly romantic. I mean, I don't even particularly care for the option of Sara (nearly 10 years older and his teacher makes me really look sideways), but their final bonding event and nighttime epilogue is explicitly " I'll grow and become the right man for you" "I'll be waiting" - seriously, how you do read that and go "nope, not implied romance at all"? I'll admit, I don't have all...8? girls final Bonding Events memorized, so I guess I'll contextualize this by saying that none of the other girls' scenes struck me as being as overtly MUTUALLY romantic as Emma's, Laura's and Alisa's. Except Sara's, but even that one is muddied by the fact that Sara's always been like that and Rean has been humoring her for over a year. But sure, if you guys want to interpret that as me saying "hurf durf clearly they're all totally platonic" I guess you can?
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Oct 11, 2018 21:05
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Really Pants posted:
What the heck
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Sidesaddle Cavalry posted:What the heck Problem?
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Some Numbers posted:I'll admit, I don't have all...8? girls final Bonding Events memorized, so I guess I'll contextualize this by saying that none of the other girls' scenes struck me as being as overtly MUTUALLY romantic as Emma's, Laura's and Alisa's.
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Oct 11, 2018 21:22
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Lord Koth posted:and Alfin's blatantly crushing on him but Rean doesn't notice. Given that Alfin was all but proposing a threeway with her, him and Elise, perhaps Rean's obliviousness was for the best here. 
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Really Pants posted:
Does this mean Sara is a man now?
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Justin_Brett posted:Does this mean Sara is a man now? no, Sara is now your slovenly drunken big sister and her original role goes to Angelica
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Really Pants posted:
I like this girl Rean. Rean is easily my least favorite of the main character designs (between Estelle/Kevin/Lloyd/Rean). Imagining his harem gender-swapped is also pretty great (Laura and Fie would be great like this; Alisa is a bit harder to imagine), though I've also always liked "reverse harems" more than "regular" ones. Some Numbers posted:For one, most of us haven't played CS3 and for another, I was specifically responding to someone saying "most of the final CS2 girl events are romantic," which is decidedly not the case. Ah, I was responding as part of what you were talking about with Lord Koth (who mentioned CS3 in the context of blowback for CS3 not giving them much). Prior to that, yeah, you can definitely be directly romantic with most of the characters in CS2. Tbh I kinda liked them toning down that aspect in CS3*, though based on what Lord Koth said they brought it back in 4 (which I haven't played much yet since I've been distracted by other things). * It's also more self-aware about it; 1/2 played the harem relatively straight, while 3 at least has people noticing that everyone loves Rean and side-eyeing him (which is also the way Zero/Ao did it).
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Oct 12, 2018 03:28
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*clears throat* girliath momsborne
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Endorph posted:*while watching mueller pound olivier's bishie rear end*
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Endorph posted:*clears throat* I almost said "girl Olivier" but I forgot that she already exists in Alfin.
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Endorph posted:*clears throat* *hisses in pain*
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Oct 12, 2018 03:56
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why do we not have a cross dressing Rean why do we not have a scene in CS4 where Rean and Joshua need to cross dress in a play in a bid to bring down a corrupt emperor.
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Oct 12, 2018 04:01
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Here, have a date with Duvalie instead
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In some far-off universe, Dorothee is touching herself so hard right now.
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Supremezero posted:Problem? I forgot to add the  to my post, I swear I'm not backpedaling, I just looked into my soul to discover that Rean was the best girl after all, is all
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Oct 12, 2018 06:38
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I really hope the Calvard arc has a woman main protagonist again.
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It's kind of telling that it's pretty much considered a done deal that if Falcom wanted to drop the harem-scenarios, their only way to do so would be to have another female protagonist. It essentially concludes that if another male lead would be used and the female main roster exceeded the number 1, the otaku Falcom has to pander to would never accept being restricted to a single option. It also concludes that if a female protagonist made a return, the existence of multiple romantic options would spark howls of outrage from the same audience. Technically we've already had a male protagonist who was locked to a canon pairing, though I admit Kevin's kind of a unique case.
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I think they just said that because it's been one FeMC followed by three guys. That said I'm doubtful they'll do it again since there's interviews saying they were already here and there on Estelle mid-development.
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Oct 12, 2018 07:21
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I hope the next Trails game continues the adventures of Estelle's family.
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Erpy posted:It essentially concludes that if another male lead would be used and the female main roster exceeded the number 1, the otaku Falcom has to pander to would never accept being restricted to a single option. It also concludes that if a female protagonist made a return, the existence of multiple romantic options would spark howls of outrage from the same audience. its okay to just accept that the thing you like is made by people who can be weirdos sometimes, they werent forced into it by some dreaded Japanese Man In His 30s Wearing Glasses Who Watches PreCure And Shitposts About It Online, they just, have weird standards and wants for their own art
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the kind of people who would complain about the number of romantic options in Trails in the Calvard: Anton and Ricky's Big Adventure will find something else to complain about, don't worry they will still buy the game and the developers at Falcom are aware of this
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Considering how much of these games are based on anime the devs like, the fact that the dev team is small and insular, and the fact that its seemingly almost entirely male, i feel like the otaku might be coming from inside the house
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Erpy posted:It's kind of telling that it's pretty much considered a done deal that if Falcom wanted to drop the harem-scenarios, their only way to do so would be to have another female protagonist. It essentially concludes that if another male lead would be used and the female main roster exceeded the number 1, the otaku Falcom has to pander to would never accept being restricted to a single option. It also concludes that if a female protagonist made a return, the existence of multiple romantic options would spark howls of outrage from the same audience. Ye of small mind. They could have a female protagonist... with a reverse harem.
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