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Combat Theory
Jul 16, 2017

What's up melvin are you afraid a filthy goon has a deeper understanding of the spaceflight and combat mechanics in SC than you have? Common post your balls stats.


E:


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EvilMerlin
Apr 10, 2018

Meh.

Give it a try...

The Titanic posted:

There was one.

However, even you as a massive supporter have to acknowledge the fact that the more the game is developed, the more it becomes an FPS game.

So much so that even some of the taxi stuff is handled by trains instead of the player flying a ship somewhere. Not to say they can't, but it's not shown as much, or as extravagantly.

All the details being added now are about FPS personal interactions. Which isn't bad, save for the fact the core space game is still a shambles.

What kind of game are you hoping to get here, exactly? My thoughts way back in the day was pretty much privateer with some walking around parts. Now it seems much less like that's the plan.

The game is just as much of a space "sim" from what I have seen thus far.

Yes, FPS will happen and be important, but I think the balance should be decent between the two for SQ42.

In the PU? I'm willing to bet there will be quite a few people that never venture beyond the bulkheads of their ships.


What kind of game? A space "sim" with the ability to get out of my ship, interact with other people and NPC's as needed and then get back in my ship. I just plan on doing escort missions and anti-piracy patrol style stuff.

Scruffpuff
Dec 23, 2015

Fidelity. Wait, was I'm working on again?
Chris shambles out on stage to a wave of applause from furries and pedophiles. His pale, sweaty, disheveled visage stares out blankly.

Chris Roberts: THAN YOO!! AA RIIII!! AAAUUOOHH! ANIIAAAHH!

The applause intensifies. The smell in the room is absolutely unbearable.

Chris Roberts: Uhhh, ahhhh .... AAAAHHHHHHH

Chris waves his hands in random directions. He moves from left to right on the stage, pacing oddly. There is definitely a load in his pants. He points to a Powerpoint slide.

Chris Roberts: AAUUAAAHHHHH!!!

A standing ovation amongst the audience members who still have the physical fortitude to stand upright. The remaining backers click their asthma inhalers with solidarity.

trucutru
Jul 9, 2003

by Fluffdaddy

EvilMerlin posted:

And yet I've seen that 35 dollar Aurora take down a 180 dollar SuperHornet because the person flying understood 6DoF and was just a better "pilot"...

And I have seen Zangief beat Guile in SF2:WW because the Guile player was a sleepy toddler and the Zangief player was Daigo Umehara. It was a close fight and the toddler managed to win a round but, in the end, the most skilled player won because he understood tick throws more comprehensibly.

Daztek
Jun 2, 2006



Guys

I figured out why Croberts added trains

trucutru
Jul 9, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
Then a slightly more advanced infant came and magic threw the gently caress out of that scrub Zangief. Finishing with some handcuffs into a hard reset teabagging.

EvilMerlin
Apr 10, 2018

Meh.

Give it a try...

Combat Theory posted:

What's up melvin are you afraid a filthy goon has a deeper understanding of the spaceflight and combat mechanics in SC than you have? Common post your balls stats.




No can do:

Daztek
Jun 2, 2006



EvilMerlin posted:

No can do:



Weak, way to dishonor your heroes!!

Hav
Dec 11, 2009

Fun Shoe

TheAgent posted:

I mean, if they are looking to sell 250 of them or so, it wouldn't be that much work to personalize each purchase

there's just not that many people who have the means to drop $5,000 or more on a single ship at this stage and it'd be smart to gauge just how much each individual backer could pay. some might be able to do $15,000 or higher

Yeah, they really don't want to justify another Legatus pack to journalists, a segment of the population not known for luxury purchases.


Dooguk posted:

The backers will never know.

Yeah, but the accountants will, and after Enron, most accountants do a bang up job of appearing as white as the driven snow. You'll notice the modern burgeoning success that Arthur Anderson is.


big nipples big life posted:

I don't think melvin is a real account

As real as anyone else.

The Titanic
Sep 15, 2016

Unsinkable

Sarsapariller posted:

I think we should start being pro SC in shifts so the alt and troll accounts don't feel the need to come in here and do it for us.

I will take the anniversary sale.

I joined them and joined spectrum and tried to convince them to let me play it without buying anything because I just wanted to live on a planet and didn't like space.

Unfortunately it didn't go well. Apparently I absolutely must buy a ship to play the game. Even though they're making the game not about space ships anymore. I don't understand!

Dooguk
Oct 11, 2016

Pillbug
Escort missions eh... nudge nudge wink wink

Hav
Dec 11, 2009

Fun Shoe

The Titanic posted:

I joined them and joined spectrum and tried to convince them to let me play it without buying anything because I just wanted to live on a planet and didn't like space.

Unfortunately it didn't go well. Apparently I absolutely must buy a ship to play the game. Even though they're making the game not about space ships anymore. I don't understand!

Get onto voice chat and pretend to not know anything.

I guarantee you that you'll get ships galore.

It's how I played Eve, dodging horny Germans.

Ayn Marx
Dec 21, 2012

EvilMerlin posted:

Uh, there are literally dozens of horrible ones. Some a LOT worse.




Here is a fine little video on it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEc0sWXpSAY

I love this main character option
She looks so dimwitted and incompetent
I can really identify with her

big nipples big life
May 12, 2014

Hav posted:

Yeah, they really don't want to justify another Legatus pack to journalists, a segment of the population not known for luxury purchases.


Yeah, but the accountants will, and after Enron, most accountants do a bang up job of appearing as white as the driven snow. You'll notice the modern burgeoning success that Arthur Anderson is.


As real as anyone else.

Nah I think it is an AI programmed to say citizen cliches

xanif
Nov 3, 2010

Beer: Who was your first kill, not counting old men?
Eonwe: One of the outlaws in the Brotherhood.
Seraph84: I was there that day. You were only a squire, sixteen years old.
Eonwe: You killed Friendly Tumour with a counter-post. Best move I ever saw.
Oven Wrangler

EvilMerlin posted:

A better pilot can always defeat a poorer pilot in a superior aircraft. Fact.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQ7MwfcjCa0&t=110s

"Always"

EvilMerlin
Apr 10, 2018

Meh.

Give it a try...

Whoops!

https://gizmodo.com/5221105/king-of-fighters-f-22-gets-killed-by-humble-t-38-training-plane

colonelwest
Jun 30, 2018

TheAgent posted:

I think they'll care when the price is announced, because I almost bet its going to be different for each person

miku would pay $10,000 and the other guy would maybe pay $4k? yeah lets give them individual prices because somehow its the stupidest thing possible so of course CIG is going to do that

Individualized pricing is actually a real thing in lovely money pit mobile F2P games and some AAA publishers already have toyed with the idea. Algorithms will actually increase or decrease prices based on your previous spending history, so that whales (and people with literal spending addictions) will get milked dry for all they can pay. I wouldn't put it past CIG to do something like that hidden behind their whale paywalls.

xanif
Nov 3, 2010

Beer: Who was your first kill, not counting old men?
Eonwe: One of the outlaws in the Brotherhood.
Seraph84: I was there that day. You were only a squire, sixteen years old.
Eonwe: You killed Friendly Tumour with a counter-post. Best move I ever saw.
Oven Wrangler

Once != Always.

You're the one that made the ridiculous claim. You need to prove that he will ALWAYS be shot down. Not once.

Beexoffel
Oct 4, 2015

Herald of the Stimpire

Scruffpuff posted:

Chris shambles out on stage to a wave of applause from furries and pedophiles. His pale, sweaty, disheveled visage stares out blankly.

Chris Roberts: THAN YOO!! AA RIIII!! AAAUUOOHH! ANIIAAAHH!

The applause intensifies. The smell in the room is absolutely unbearable.

Chris Roberts: Uhhh, ahhhh .... AAAAHHHHHHH

Chris waves his hands in random directions. He moves from left to right on the stage, pacing oddly. There is definitely a load in his pants. He points to a Powerpoint slide.

Chris Roberts: AAUUAAAHHHHH!!!

A standing ovation amongst the audience members who still have the physical fortitude to stand upright. The remaining backers click their asthma inhalers with solidarity.

I sniggered ungentlemanly.

Hav
Dec 11, 2009

Fun Shoe

big nipples big life posted:

Nah I think it is an AI programmed to say citizen cliches

This is why I love David Thewlis (NSFW for cursing and Mike Leigh);

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N90sl94g7PE&t=148s

The punctuation of 'Fact' is what leads us here. 'Naked' is a fairly bleak movie, obviously.

IcarusUpHigh
Dec 20, 2016



Combat Theory
Jul 16, 2017


Show how much experience you have in SC Space Combat or GTFO.

Be the Anti Roberts. Finish what you start

colonelwest
Jun 30, 2018

Bayonnefrog posted:

I'm an accounting finance person and I still can't figure out how they are even able to keep the lights on let alone develop any game. With the small amount of monthly $$ they get based on the tracker and the 400+ employees they have to pay I have no idea how they even make payroll. Budgets must be tight.

They have a lot of other funding, loans/private investors etc... But no one has any clue how much. Everything about their fiances is carefully hidden and obscured by shell companies. Of course they were supposed to make all of it public if they didn't release a game by 2016, according to the original terms of service, but they arbitrarily rewrote them on the eve of this happening.

Beet Wagon
Oct 19, 2015





Beer4TheBeerGod posted:

Weird that some refunders keep their accounts, and mine was ruthlessly purged.

Mine was closed but got reopened when a friend sent back the starter pack I had sent him. Sarsa's was just kept open after the fifteenth time they bought back in, I assume.

EvilMerlin posted:

A better pilot can always defeat a poorer pilot in a superior aircraft. Fact.

Oh cool, the classic pay to win dodge. So tell me, Dr. Mengele, what happens when two players of equal skill meet, one in a Super Hornet and one in an Aurora? Who has the advantage? Who has to work harder to secure the kill?

Beet Wagon fucked around with this message at 19:06 on Oct 12, 2018

big nipples big life
May 12, 2014

Aren't there like 75 dollar missiles you can buy?

Does the noob ship have the AIM-420P2W equipped?

Quavers
Feb 26, 2016

You clearly don't understand game development

Beet Goblin posted:

Oh cool, the classic pay to win dodge. So tell me, Dr. Mengele, what happens when two players of equal skill meet, one in a Super Hornet and one in an Aurora? Who has the advantage? Who has to work harder to secure the kill?
Whichever Citizen uses FOIP the most :eng101:

trucutru
Jul 9, 2003

by Fluffdaddy

EvilMerlin posted:



What kind of game? A space "sim" with the ability to get out of my ship, interact with other people and NPC's as needed and then get back in my ship. I just plan on doing escort missions and anti-piracy patrol style stuff.

Sorry, but it's more like... You get out of your ship, walk five minutes, pass customs, take an elevator, walk five minutes, wait three minutes for the train to arrive, wait four minutes until it reaches station Sandi-Er, walk two minutes, wait two minutes for the orange line train, wait six minutes, walk three minutes, take an elevator, walk two minutes, get into a taxi cab, wait two minutes, finally reach the bar where your bald quest - giver is, wait on line fifty minutes (it's Friday night and your character is not attractive enough), and finally learn that he needs twelve space-boar asses. So then you go back to your taxi, wait two minutes, walk two minutes, take an elevator, walk three minutes, wait two minutes, take the orange line train, wait six minutes, walk two (god this is exciting!) minutes, wait the minutes, take the train, wait four minutes, walk five minutes, take the elevator, pass security, walk five minutes, enter your ship, fly for five minutes, then you set your destination to the Corneria system and push the quantum travel button, wait four hours, then jump to the planet of the space bears, wait twenty minutes to reach the planet, then twenty to reach the space jungle, then you drop a $500,000 UEC bomb on it and the twelve bear asses appear. So you travel to the closest city, wait fifteen minutes, land, walk for two minutes, pass customs, take an elevator, walk for five minutes until you finally find a quest box to deposit the asses in. Ding-ding motherfucker! quest cleared! Your 3,200 UEC are in the wa... wait... he didn't pay!? Goddamn, you'll make the balls bastard pay! So you walk five minutes, take the elevator...

EvilMerlin
Apr 10, 2018

Meh.

Give it a try...

big nipples big life posted:

Aren't there like 75 dollar missiles you can buy?

Does the noob ship have the AIM-420P2W equipped?


They can carry missiles.

Various types and manufacturers.

EvilMerlin
Apr 10, 2018

Meh.

Give it a try...

trucutru posted:

Sorry, but it's very out of your ship, walk five minutes, pass customs, take an elevator, walk five minutes, wait three minutes for the train to arrive, wait four minutes until it reaches station Sandi-Er, walk two minutes, wait two minutes for the orange line train, wait six minutes, walk three minutes, take an elevator, walk two minutes, get into a taxi cab, wait two minutes, finally reach the bar where your bald quest - giver is, wait on line fifty minutes (it's Friday night and your character is not attractive enough), and finally learn that he needs twelve space-boar asses. So then you go back to your taxi, wait two minutes, walk two minutes, take an elevator, walk three minutes, wait two minutes, take the orange line train, wait six minutes, walk two (god this is exciting!) minutes, wait the minutes, take the train, wait four minutes, walk five minutes, take the elevator, pass security, walk five minutes, enter your ship, fly for five minutes, then you set your destination to the Corneria system and push the quantum travel button, wait four hours, then jump to the planet of the space bears, wait twenty minutes to reach the planet, then twenty to reach the space jungle, then you drop a $500,000 UEC bomb on it and the twelve bear asses appear. So you travel to the closest city, wait fifteen minutes, land, walk for two minutes, pass customs, take an elevator, walk for five minutes until you finally find a quest box to deposit the asses in. Ding-ding motherfucker! quest cleared! Your 3,200 UEC are in the wa... wait... he didn't pay!? Goddamn, you'll make the balls bastard pay! So you walk five minutes, take the elevator...

For some stuff, mayhap.

For other stuff, no.

Beer4TheBeerGod
Aug 23, 2004
Exciting Lemon

Beet Goblin posted:

Mine was closed but got reopened when a friend sent back the starter pack I had sent him. Sarsa's was just kept open after the fifteenth time they bought back in, I assume.

Interesting.

The Titanic
Sep 15, 2016

Unsinkable

Hav posted:

Get onto voice chat and pretend to not know anything.

I guarantee you that you'll get ships galore.

It's how I played Eve, dodging horny Germans.

I've only taken advantage of gender a few times, but not many. This isn't a place it's worth doing though. Plus, sort of mostly deaf so hopping on voice chat is like telling the blind to go read the newspaper. :)

I've thought about it with some goons but it's have to be a low population room because there'd be no way I'd last in a place with >1 person trying to speak at any single time.

Daztek
Jun 2, 2006



Beer4TheBeerGod posted:

Weird that some refunders keep their accounts, and mine was ruthlessly purged.

Mine was purged months after I got my refund, guess it varies a lot

Daztek fucked around with this message at 19:12 on Oct 12, 2018

Beet Wagon
Oct 19, 2015






They gave me back all my benefits from being an old-school backer too lol. I think I even kept my original citizen number, but I'm too lazy to check. Originally though they vaporized it like everyone else (but only after I logged in to still find my hangar full of $1000 of ships and reminded them I had gotten a refund).

Jobbo_Fett
Mar 7, 2014

Slava Ukrayini

Clapping Larry

EvilMerlin posted:

The Red Baron was shot down by a Canadian or possibly an Australian AA gun...

But you agree that he was murdered, correct?

Beer4TheBeerGod
Aug 23, 2004
Exciting Lemon

Beet Goblin posted:

They gave me back all my benefits from being an old-school backer too lol. I think I even kept my original citizen number, but I'm too lazy to check. Originally though they vaporized it like everyone else (but only after I logged in to still find my hangar full of $1000 of ships and reminded them I had gotten a refund).

That's hilarious. I wonder what happens if someone tried to gift me a package to my old account.

colonelwest
Jun 30, 2018

These broke brained idiots and their trains man... No one even wants cool space stuff in this space game anymore, they just want to be liberated from their basements and pretend they're actually living in the future.





Edit: People even took my sarcastic comment seriously and up-voted it.



colonelwest fucked around with this message at 19:16 on Oct 12, 2018

Combat Theory
Jul 16, 2017

Hav posted:

Get onto voice chat and pretend to not know anything.

I guarantee you that you'll get ships galore.

It's how I played Eve, dodging horny Germans.

mmhhh ja mein Fräulein, kommen sie in mein schönes Raumschiff

DigitalMocking
Jun 8, 2010

Wine is constant proof that God loves us and loves to see us happy.
Benjamin Franklin

Daztek posted:

Mine was purged months after I got my refund, guess it varies a lot

So that's hilarious, I got a refund years ago, just logged in, I have all my stuff from being an original backer still. 300i, all the extra UEC.

amazing.

Beet Wagon
Oct 19, 2015





Beer4TheBeerGod posted:

That's hilarious. I wonder what happens if someone tried to gift me a package to my old account.

If someone sends you a gift package all you have to do is email them and say “hey someone sent me a gift but my account was closed” and they’ll reopen it, at least in my experience.

I actually asked if I needed to make a new one and the guy was like “nope your old account is back up now thanks bye”

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