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Brother Entropy
Dec 27, 2009

Unlucky7 posted:

So, when Golden Wind (Experience? I like both names) punches a living person, it basically punches their soul out of their body and makes any subsequent attacks on their body more or less super effective?

it's shown weirdly but it's more like, all the added 'life' overloads their brain and senses but the rest of their body doesn't follow so it's too slow to keep up and thus real easy to get a good hit on it

but also if i remember right this aspect of gold experience rarely ever comes up again

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Josuke Higashikata
Mar 7, 2013


Gold Experience is more Star Platinum than Crazy D as terms of ability goes. Not so much in what its specific power is, rather its scope.

I'm saying it does whatever the hell the plot needs

Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

Jack in!! MegaMan, Execute!

Unlucky7 posted:

So, when Golden Wind (Experience? I like both names) punches a living person, it basically punches their soul out of their body and makes any subsequent attacks on their body more or less super effective?

Gold Experience. Golden Wind/Vento Aureo/Ougon no Kaze is the subtitle of Part 5.

Pomplamoose
Jun 28, 2008

Expect My Mom posted:

i submit



for his nomination

Serious question: is Araki aware of how many people perceive his work as gay? I mean part of it is probably cultural differences and Araki's personal aesthetic preferences, and it never seems to leave the realm of subtext, but I can't tell how much, if any of it is intentional.

STING 64
Oct 20, 2006

Pomplamoose posted:

Serious question: is Araki aware of how many people perceive his work as gay? I mean part of it is probably cultural differences and Araki's personal aesthetic preferences, and it never seems to leave the realm of subtext, but I can't tell how much, if any of it is intentional.

i mean


speedwagon alone

somepartsareme
Mar 10, 2012

Diggle Hell is a Real
(Swingin') Place

Pomplamoose posted:

Serious question: is Araki aware of how many people perceive his work as gay? I mean part of it is probably cultural differences and Araki's personal aesthetic preferences, and it never seems to leave the realm of subtext, but I can't tell how much, if any of it is intentional.

The closest I think he's come to addressing it is a passage from "manga in theory and practice" where he talks about how he doesnt think it's necessary to make any character a girl, even in a romance story!

Gyro Zeppeli
Jul 19, 2012

sure hope no-one throws me off a bridge

Pomplamoose posted:

Serious question: is Araki aware of how many people perceive his work as gay? I mean part of it is probably cultural differences and Araki's personal aesthetic preferences, and it never seems to leave the realm of subtext, but I can't tell how much, if any of it is intentional.

It's an urban myth (but a very plausible one in context) that Pt6's protagonist was going to be bisexual until the editors stepped in.

somepartsareme
Mar 10, 2012

Diggle Hell is a Real
(Swingin') Place
No spoilers. :colbert:
(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

Somebody fucked around with this message at 00:33 on Oct 14, 2018

Josuke Higashikata
Mar 7, 2013


This is the anime thread!!!


There's a Araki actually said™ with a hardcore fujoshi and Araki and he's okay with everything but incest, basically. It's on the wikia somewhere.

Kurtofan
Feb 16, 2011

hon hon hon
Rohan is grabbing arakis rear end, i think he knows

Toplowtech
Aug 31, 2004

Hobgoblin2099 posted:

It'll be DIO. Somehow.

It always is. :argh:
It's will be dio's priest's nephew's babysitter: Diane Brandow.

MachuPikacchu
Oct 15, 2012

Sacre vert! Maman!

So Coda did an English language version of Fighting Gold. I...dubbed vesion, if you will.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8Kxyj_Hhik

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Fun Shoe

Unlucky7 posted:

So, when Golden Wind (Experience? I like both names) punches a living person, it basically punches their soul out of their body and makes any subsequent attacks on their body more or less super effective?

It's more like it overstimulates your brain so your mind starts going so fast that it begins hallucinating what you would like to do and your body just can't keep up.

Hitlersaurus Christ
Oct 14, 2005

MachuPikacchu posted:

So Coda did an English language version of Fighting Gold. I...dubbed vesion, if you will.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8Kxyj_Hhik

I understood more of the Japanese version's lyrics tbh

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012
Fighting Gold reminds me a lot of James Bond openings. The visuals in particular felt very Casino Royale. Bloody Stream had a little of that as well, but it's more pronounced this time around.

Expect My Mom
Nov 18, 2013

by Smythe

Pomplamoose posted:

Serious question: is Araki aware of how many people perceive his work as gay? I mean part of it is probably cultural differences and Araki's personal aesthetic preferences, and it never seems to leave the realm of subtext, but I can't tell how much, if any of it is intentional.
I absolutely think it's all intentional and I dont think he really cares. His work has found international appeal and gotten him work with Gucci and the Louvre.


somepartsareme posted:

The closest I think he's come to addressing it is a passage from "manga in theory and practice" where he talks about how he doesnt think it's necessary to make any character a girl, even in a romance story!
To back this up, a lot of poses in JoJo are taken straight from fashion shoots with little regard for who was in the shoots originally. By that I mean he has no problem taking shoots of a man and woman or just all women and putting his mostly all male characters in them. Gender isnt something he really sweats over.

JoJo is absolutely for the Gays tho, the ending of Part 1 is gay as hell

Expect My Mom
Nov 18, 2013

by Smythe
it took me till today after first reading Part 5 four years ago to realize the pattern on Brunos chest is a tattoo and not some sexy mesh undershirt he wears

Nessus
Dec 22, 2003

After a Speaker vote, you may be entitled to a valuable coupon or voucher!



Expect My Mom posted:

it took me till today after first reading Part 5 four years ago to realize the pattern on Brunos chest is a tattoo and not some sexy mesh undershirt he wears
I had assumed it was a bra.

Why did Bruno wear a bra, you ask? I assume it is the fashion in Italy for erotic assassin gangsters.

Is Araki married? (To a woman, I mean.)

Expect My Mom
Nov 18, 2013

by Smythe
that's a weird stipulation, but yes, with two children

CJ
Jul 3, 2007

Asbungold

Nessus posted:

Is Araki married? (To a woman, I mean.)

Yes. He's just a guy who has a passion for Italy, fashion, and drawing attractive young men in poses that accentuate their lithe bodies.

MachuPikacchu
Oct 15, 2012

Sacre vert! Maman!

I mean, who doesn't, right?

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

Pomplamoose posted:

Serious question: is Araki aware of how many people perceive his work as gay? I mean part of it is probably cultural differences and Araki's personal aesthetic preferences, and it never seems to leave the realm of subtext, but I can't tell how much, if any of it is intentional.

it's not really important, even to Araki

everything about jojo is gay as hell, though sometimes it is so unbelievably gay that it somehow loops back around to the straightest thing imaginable

Darko
Dec 23, 2004

I read an Araki says quote somewhere about Part 5 where people may perceive his stuff as having homosexual undertones because he decided to make his Good Boys a lot more svelte in this chapter (even though the reverse is often true in Japan with representing gayness) and pose more than ever before, but it was just due to him pulling from fashion magazines and to not read into it. I never saw the book or interview where that quote was taken from supposedly, so it could be made up r it could be possible - who knows.

This is definitely the gayest part, and like the poster above me said, it's so gay that it gets stuck in an infinite spin of gay/not gay.

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008

yeah if forced to write it's sexuality jojo would just put down a drawing of an extremely buff or svelte man doing an impossible pose

is that gay? who knows! who cares!!! JOJO!!!!!

e: and yeah araki is really into italian fashion which is why this part is so pose-heavy and full of the most ridiculous outfits in the series

Yinlock fucked around with this message at 13:51 on Oct 13, 2018

Nina
Oct 9, 2016

Invisible werewolf (entirely visible, not actually a wolf)
In the end JoJo is gay culture

Expect My Mom
Nov 18, 2013

by Smythe
araki is a queer icon in that he is an icon for queers and getting an anime made where your characters are slowly panning across a screen in intense bisexual lighting while an rnb song about how badly you want to gently caress is woke

Irony Be My Shield
Jul 29, 2012

That was a good episode. I liked the part where the attractive men punched each other.

Kikas
Oct 30, 2012
I love the male boob windows.

But I always felt like Jojo has just incredibly strong male relationships, and while they might seem gay, the fact that nobody is trying to get into each other's pants makes it loop around to the straightest thing imaginable.
Basically Jojo is Shrodringers Gay - nobody is certain cause nothing is said straight.

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna!!!

JoJo has a very classical sense of aesthetic, where it's all about beauty but without any sexual desire. Like, you wouldn't call the statue of David gay.

Augus
Mar 9, 2015


So much media is plagued with being self-conscious about people thinking it’s gay and afraid to show things like male intimacy as a result so it’s great that JoJo just doesn’t give a crap whether it comes across as homoerotic or not

Expect My Mom
Nov 18, 2013

by Smythe

Waffleman_ posted:

JoJo has a very classical sense of aesthetic, where it's all about beauty but without any sexual desire. Like, you wouldn't call the statue of David gay.
maybe YOU wouldn't

every classic sculpture or painting of satan as this sad, chiseled man with beautifully rendered pubes was very gay

Expect My Mom fucked around with this message at 14:33 on Oct 13, 2018

Irony Be My Shield
Jul 29, 2012

I know you're a good person because you felt bad for that 13 year old boy who was taking drugs, after you took him hostage in our magical fight and put him in potentially mortal danger.

Waffleman_
Jan 20, 2011


I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna I don't wanna!!!

Expect My Mom posted:

every classic sculpture or painting of satan as this sad, chiseled man with beautifully rendered pubes was very gay

His name is DIO.

Josuke Higashikata
Mar 7, 2013


[goku voice]this is gay, you can call it vento aureo episodio 1
ahhhhh
this is a level beyond gay, you can call it vento aureo episodio 2

and this

is to go further beyond

*plays episodio 3*

Meme Emulator
Oct 4, 2000

Expect My Mom posted:

it took me till today after first reading Part 5 four years ago to realize the pattern on Brunos chest is a tattoo and not some sexy mesh undershirt he wears

Wait, really? I still didnt notice even in animation.


I like that the animators are strugging so much with how to do Brunos little hair tufts on the crown of his head

Blaze Dragon
Aug 28, 2013
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Irony Be My Shield posted:

I know you're a good person because you felt bad for that 13 year old boy who was taking drugs, after you took him hostage in our magical fight and put him in potentially mortal danger.

In his defense, Giorno specifically said he wouldn't involve civilians, and Bucciarati also had no knowledge of Gold Experience's abilities beyond the sense overload. Anyone in his situation wouldn't think that they were putting a child in danger (especially since said child didn't even remotely look like one, Araki's art sure is interesting at times) and I'm convinced he wouldn't have ever taken that route if he had known about both things before.

There's a reason why his name is BRunO. He's a good guy. He's our Jobro.

Expect My Mom
Nov 18, 2013

by Smythe

Meme Emulator posted:

Wait, really? I still didnt notice even in animation.


I like that the animators are strugging so much with how to do Brunos little hair tufts on the crown of his head
that's how im interpreting this shot!

hooman
Oct 11, 2007

This guy seems legit.
Fun Shoe

Expect My Mom posted:

that's how im interpreting this shot!


There are so many just stunning stills. This is beautiful.

ZenMasterBullshit
Nov 2, 2011

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Waffleman_ posted:

JoJo has a very classical sense of aesthetic, where it's all about beauty but without any sexual desire.

Note: This isn't true at all past part 5 (and it's debatable in part 5). 6 forward are....entirely hornt.

Part 8 has a fight where JoJo's win condition is to not admit he wants to gently caress his opponent.

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Well Manicured Man
Aug 21, 2010

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