Spiderdrake posted:

As much as many tenets of conservative politics baffle me the whole gamer thing where they act like its a powerful man hobby is just so loving befuddling. It's completely the opposite but they preach only some kind of gaming "count" as gaming. It's all loving gaming!

But then this is the community that didn't understand PC master race was sarcasm making fun of them. People are weird.

Midnight Voyager posted:

Vertisce takes their own schtick Very Poorly.

The Titanic posted:

But, as far as character models go, Gillian's looked like one of the worst ones, complete with plastic hair and a complete lack of facial textures. She almost looks as bad as the Andromeda characters.

Comparing her to almost every other character in the trailer was a bit jarring. Even the apparent bad guy in the middle of the Hamill scene looked several orders of magnitude better than she did.

BluesShaman posted:

She looks ~25 yrs younger.

Like Chris said, "Make her look like mid 90s agent Scully."

trucutru posted:

If there is anything that men -in general- have adopted, it's because it's good, and if it's good then it is masculine. If doctors discovered that wearing stilettos was great for the penis health then they would eventually be the manliest loving thing ever.

It's not like gaming is manly, it is that men like gaming, therefore it has to be manly.


e: what a snipe!

colonelwest posted:

Chris still thinks its the mid 90's so it makes sense. But, I'm ok with this, Scully was my first crush as a kid.

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I think the thing I don't understand about this game and the way they are showcasing it, is what exactly is the plan for when gamers don't play the game the way the developers want them to.

For example, they showed off the "functioning transit system", and they mention when you're flying outside, you can see the trains on the tracks going to each of their stations and they mentioned how the hangar is a real place and you can see other players docking or leaving various times. So what exactly is going to happen when players do something like fly their ship into the train? What happens when people jump on top of trains and surf them from one destination to another? What happens when people just throw poo poo onto the tracks? What happens if debris lands on the tracks?

Their designing this as if its a real world and that's really interesting, sure, but its not a real world. And you're going to have thousands of gamers that live(or die, really) for anarchy and are going to break your real world at every chance they get. Why would I ever take the train somewhere when there are, notoriously, trolls that re-roll a character, hijack some ship, just so they can ram it into a train and kill people. Or what about when I sit around waiting for 6 minutes for a train to arrive, I get in with 5 or 10 other people, and 1 of them just decides "gently caress it, I'm going to throw grenades on the floor in this small, confined tube that nobody can escape from.

They had that moment later where you land and investigate a crash for a mission. Its like a solid 5 minute flight to get all the way out there and its out in the middle of nowhere. Some other players arrive and instantly just blow your ship up. What happens if you blow their ship up too? Walking back to civilization would clearly take hours. Are you just stranded in the middle of loving nowhere? Do I have to order an equivalent of an Uber to get back to civilization? What if I'm still new to the game and I don't have money or friends to pick me up? Do I just re-roll? There's so much poo poo going on in this game that sounds like an interesting idea on paper but sounds like a nightmare in practice. And I imagine any "video game magic" solution to remove the tedium just undoes all the immersion they were trying to so hard to preserve in the first place.

BurtLington posted:

I found a good post from this thread on

BluesShaman posted:

BluesShaman posted:

BurtLington posted:

Store Citizer: I advise you to stand back and toe the line.

BluesShaman posted:

She looks ~25 yrs younger.

Like Chris said, "Make her look like mid 90s agent Scully."

BluesShaman posted:

Sarsapariller posted:

I got into the 3.3 PTU. Observations when compared to the 3.2 that I'd been torturing myself with since yesterday:

* Menus are vastly improved. They stopped that in-game "Holo projection" effect bullshit and now it's just an overlay that pops up. Much more readable.
* There are still a lot of buttons on most of the menus that don't seem to... do anything? I don't understand how half of this poo poo is still placeholders, 6 years in.
* I counted 47 people in general chat when I logged in, with no appreciable slowdown, so that's pretty nice
* Contrary to past PTU's the performance at Port O was completely smooth, no hitching and no crashes. Usually in a PTU I have to race to spawn a ship before the server shits itself.
* The PTU lets you spawn a bunch of new ships. As usual, getting into any ship you don't already know the trick to is a loving nightmare. Some of them are just bugged and spawn without any doors or ramps attached. Fun!
* The luxury Constellation is full of useless gewgaws like a bar and bedroom, and the launchable fighter still doesn't work. 6 loving years.
* The map hasn't been improved at all. If anything it's worse. At least it's easier to read due to the menu changes.
* They've added new planets, waaaay further away than they used to be. QT'ing across the system takes a loving while. I'm talking 5, 10 minutes or more of just staring at blue poo poo. Go make yourself a sandwich, you aren't missing anything. Can't wait until they add 100 systems and you have to travel across them!
*Jumping about halfway across the system ate up all my quantum fuel and left me stranded in space with no way to refuel. So, that's loving fun I guess? Time to kill myself! I'm not sure how you're supposed to travel unless they place gas stations every few minutes on every major route.
*Killing myself caused the game to crash, finally.

Next up, combat.

Sarsapariller posted:

*Jumping about halfway across the system ate up all my quantum fuel and left me stranded in space with no way to refuel. So, that's loving fun I guess? Time to kill myself! I'm not sure how you're supposed to travel unless they place gas stations every few minutes on every major route.

Scruffpuff posted:

I like these posts - they're raw. Credit where credit is due, criticism likewise. Just remember how many years and how many millions of dollars it took to get this far, and extrapolate how many more decades and how many billions of dollars they still need.

colonelwest posted:

Mainstream gamers have been onto CIG's BS for the past year or two and this a good comment that gets to the core of a lot of problems. Chris envisions people waking up in their space apartments, making coffee, conducting hygiene, getting a bite to eat, putting clothing on one piece at a time, walking through a maze of hallways to find a mission giver, listening to some horrible hack sci-fi dialogue, walking to train station, waiting 5 minutes for a train to arrive, riding the train to the spaceport, open the door to your spaceship, walk through some more bland hallways, get into your pilot seat, conduct 10 minutes of pre-flight procedures (including balancing your Argon levels), take off, fly for god knows how long to some generic outpost on the planet or space, engage in some janky fps for 5 minutes, get some MacGuffin, carry it to your ship, place it in the cargo bay, fly to some drop off point, land back at the space port, talk to the mission giver again to get a paltry amount of space bucks, engage in post-flight refueling and maintenance and then prepare to do it all over again.

Even if this all works seamlessly, it would involve hours of tedium that would make Elite Dangerous look like a nonstop thrill ride.

Quavers posted:

Midnight Voyager posted:

And then people are like "These problems are solved already or will be solved in testing."

Quavers posted:

On which video?

e:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3slnXcQmtV8

I'm back to see how many suckers still play Elite Dangerous after that AMAZING CITIZENCON Event!!! HAHAHAHAHAHA Star Citizen is literally killing the ED Twitch viewer base!! Why watch boring black space with orange HUDS and ugly crack head police lineup photo mission givers?? The SC 3.3 update is KILLING ED!! I literally can't wait for FDev's lovely Q4 update! I need a good laugh. Lmao!! Our update isn't finished yet either, we get 2 more updates!! Atmospheric planet landings are here!! In 2 weeks we get Lorville, in December we get Arcorp, another Atmospheric planet! Face Over Internet Protocol (FOIP) is loving amazing!! FPS is in the triple digits!! I'm sorry, but Chris Roberts just delivered the kill shot to ED fanboys, I'm not here to console you, I'm here to put my foot on ED's neck!