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Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:

Agean90 posted:

the thing is that trees are great for helping mitigate weather poo poo, live snow fences are a thing that are pretty effective.

problem is is that its talking about normal weather, which a category 4 hurricane aint.

what they're really saying is "trees don't do poo poo!!!!!! roll back all the building codes and cut em all down"

and then soil erosion from regular weather washes them into the sea anyway

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Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
thank you Comrade Michael for destroying imperialist war machines

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:

Taintrunner posted:

thank you Comrade Michael for destroying imperialist war machines

step aside swamp maoists, we've got hurricane maoists now

Segata Sanshiro
Sep 10, 2011

we can live for nothing
baby i don't care

lose me like the ocean
feel the motion

:coolfish:

F-22 is like the opposite of the F-35 in that it really is the best/most advanced fighter around and not a giant chunk of idiot poo poo

lol that they didn't scramble them all out to different bases when mikey's eye was basically a 30 mile wide tornado coming right at them

the brilliant flawless united states armed forces, owned by nature

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:
all those fighters getting destroyed just means more money for the MIC, why the gently caress would they care about saving them

Segata Sanshiro
Sep 10, 2011

we can live for nothing
baby i don't care

lose me like the ocean
feel the motion

:coolfish:

it's rly quite comforting and heartwarming to visualize ultra high tech macho death machines being effortlessly wrecked by mother nature though :unsmith:

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
I’m pretty sure F-22 was the one that couldn’t fly in the rain and had a bunch of problems

anyways I’m glad Comrade Michael punished the troops

The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?


Hair Elf

Taintrunner posted:

I’m pretty sure F-22 was the one that couldn’t fly in the rain and had a bunch of problems

anyways I’m glad Comrade Michael punished the troops

I think they were undergoing maintenance and they were' expecting the roof of the hanger to get blown off

The F-22 had a bunch of issues when they were new, but those have been pretty much worked out. Unlike the F-35, this was actually a very good fighter once they figured out the bugs

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



still pretty pointless considering that our evil empire will collapse before we ever again get into a war where we do not have absolute air supremacy from day 1

Nebakenezzer
Sep 13, 2005

The Mote in God's Eye

BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

Tyndall is where the USAF trains F-22 pilots so :rip:

That's pretty much a whole squadron

https://twitter.com/nktpnd/status/1051607249209253888

They were early production training airframes (that 'couldn't be upgraded') but yeah, "put em in hangers, hope for the best" was the only option. If the eye had been 20 km further west it would have been a nonissue

Still not a good thing, though. The airframes are not replaceable, and this is the latest time where America's patented method of "spending lots to develop cutting edge technology" -> "dumb short term decision leads to production being a fraction of what was needed" -> "now the old things that needed to be replaced still need to be replaced while the new things are 'silver bullets'" -> "it turns out keeping in airframes and parts for things that had their order vastly cut down is more expensive than doing the same thing to the full order" didn't work out

See also the Zumwalt Destroyers, which because of this process cost as much as a Nimitz class supercarrier, and because of their lack of small guns that pretty much any naval ship has, the magic stelth destroyers must be escorted by two old frigates that do have those guns

It's not like its main guns work though, because the magic next generation guns were made, then the order got cut so the cost of the shells for the guns went up to $800,000 per, and the Navy was like "NOPE" to that so now the guns have no shells

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



if we ever get into an actual war with someone who can fight back, we're gonna go nuclear like instantly because every other system has become a MIC quagmire of failure and pain

The Dipshit
Dec 21, 2005

by FactsAreUseless

Epic High Five posted:

if we ever get into an actual war with someone who can fight back, we're gonna go nuclear like instantly because every other system has become a MIC quagmire of failure and pain

What's darkly funny is that there are some production lines essentially unchanged from the 60s for making those nukes.

Fuck You And Diebold
Sep 15, 2004

by Athanatos
can it really be 10% of the operational fleet if none of them are operational

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar

the bitcoin of weed posted:

yeah most of the city lost power from falling trees, again, and a bunch of roads are blocked from fallen trees, again. they'll probably figure it out eventually

Doesn't the US clear trees around major powerlines?



Also




Bob Socko
Feb 20, 2001

Megillah Gorilla posted:

Doesn't the US clear trees around major powerlines?



Also


Yes, but trees are pruned as time and budget allows, so any given area could have been due or overdue for pruning when the storm hit.

Notorious R.I.M.
Jan 27, 2004

up to my ass in alligators

Feranon posted:

F-22 is like the opposite of the F-35 in that it really is the best/most advanced fighter around and not a giant chunk of idiot poo poo

lol that they didn't scramble them all out to different bases when mikey's eye was basically a 30 mile wide tornado coming right at them

the brilliant flawless united states armed forces, owned by nature

They flew all of them out that were air ready. The ones that were hit were in maintenance. Only so much you can do with the lead time we know for hurricanes.

Having a major base in a hurricane zone and keeping that much of the fleet inoperable may be another problem all its own though.

The Muppets On PCP
Nov 13, 2016

by Fluffdaddy

The Glumslinger posted:

The F-22 had a bunch of issues when they were new, but those have been pretty much worked out. Unlike the F-35, this was actually a very good fighter once they figured out the bugs

yeah it was alright once they went back and corrected grover's mistakes

like mismatched windows on the cockpit and load-bearing ailerons


Notorious R.I.M. posted:

Having a major base in a hurricane zone and keeping that much of the fleet inoperable may be another problem all its own though.

the southeastern coast of the us is nothing but military bases and tourist traps

The Muppets On PCP has issued a correction as of 10:27 on Oct 15, 2018

Squizzle
Apr 24, 2008





BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy

Nebakenezzer posted:

They were early production training airframes (that 'couldn't be upgraded') but yeah, "put em in hangers, hope for the best" was the only option. If the eye had been 20 km further west it would have been a nonissue

Still not a good thing, though. The airframes are not replaceable, and this is the latest time where America's patented method of "spending lots to develop cutting edge technology" -> "dumb short term decision leads to production being a fraction of what was needed" -> "now the old things that needed to be replaced still need to be replaced while the new things are 'silver bullets'" -> "it turns out keeping in airframes and parts for things that had their order vastly cut down is more expensive than doing the same thing to the full order" didn't work out

See also the Zumwalt Destroyers, which because of this process cost as much as a Nimitz class supercarrier, and because of their lack of small guns that pretty much any naval ship has, the magic stelth destroyers must be escorted by two old frigates that do have those guns

It's not like its main guns work though, because the magic next generation guns were made, then the order got cut so the cost of the shells for the guns went up to $800,000 per, and the Navy was like "NOPE" to that so now the guns have no shells
good post. longer-term what will happen i think is more training being spread out among the operational squadrons, which means the airframes for the rest of the fleet will wear down faster

Squizzle
Apr 24, 2008




The Muppets On PCP posted:


the southeastern coast of the us is nothing but military bases and tourist traps

this fascism kills machines

twoday
May 4, 2005



C-SPAM Times best-selling author
So far the official death toll is:

8 Florida People
1 Georgian
3 North Carolinians
6 Virginians

Silly Burrito
Nov 27, 2007

SET A COURSE FOR
THE FLAVOR QUADRANT

twoday posted:

So far the official death toll is:

8 Florida People
1 Georgian
3 North Carolinians
6 Virginians

And a partridge in a palm tree.

the bitcoin of weed
Nov 1, 2014

Megillah Gorilla posted:

Doesn't the US clear trees around major powerlines?


in theory but a third of tallahassee looks like this



it's the smaller poles that get hosed up from big storms, the big high-voltage lines are safer because they clearcut a wide easement for them but are still vulnerable to stuff getting flung into them at 120 mph

Zerg Mans
Oct 19, 2006

Bob Socko posted:

Yes, but trees are pruned as time and budget allows, so any given area could have been due or overdue for pruning when the storm hit.

GILLLUUUMMMM!!!!

WoodrowSkillson
Feb 24, 2005

*Gestures at 60 years of Lions history*

Megillah Gorilla posted:

Doesn't the US clear trees around major powerlines?



Also



yes we do, a hurricane or tornado throws stuff into them anyway, and normally what actually is getting wrecked is stuff like the second image, not the big transmission lines

Xelkelvos
Dec 19, 2012

the bitcoin of weed posted:

in theory but a third of tallahassee looks like this



it's the smaller poles that get hosed up from big storms, the big high-voltage lines are safer because they clearcut a wide easement for them but are still vulnerable to stuff getting flung into them at 120 mph

Tbf, they're really pretty to drive through during the day and really spooky (in a good way) to drive through at night. But without regular storms pruning trees, you end up getting big limbs falling into roads and stuff.

twoday
May 4, 2005



C-SPAM Times best-selling author

Silly Burrito posted:

And a partridge in a palm tree.

(The tree also died.)

twoday
May 4, 2005



C-SPAM Times best-selling author
Do you think the Hurricane blew all the Spanish moss off the trees?

Bert Roberge
Nov 28, 2003

twoday
May 4, 2005



C-SPAM Times best-selling author

Shakenbaker
Nov 14, 2005



Grimey Drawer

My name is Floridamandias, king of kings

Fuck You And Diebold
Sep 15, 2004

by Athanatos

lol

Lawman 0
Aug 17, 2010


:smith:

Isizzlehorn
Feb 25, 2010

:lesnick::lesnick::lesnick::lesnick::lesnick::lesnick:

Nebakenezzer posted:

They were early production training airframes (that 'couldn't be upgraded') but yeah, "put em in hangers, hope for the best" was the only option. If the eye had been 20 km further west it would have been a nonissue

Still not a good thing, though. The airframes are not replaceable, and this is the latest time where America's patented method of "spending lots to develop cutting edge technology" -> "dumb short term decision leads to production being a fraction of what was needed" -> "now the old things that needed to be replaced still need to be replaced while the new things are 'silver bullets'" -> "it turns out keeping in airframes and parts for things that had their order vastly cut down is more expensive than doing the same thing to the full order" didn't work out

See also the Zumwalt Destroyers, which because of this process cost as much as a Nimitz class supercarrier, and because of their lack of small guns that pretty much any naval ship has, the magic stelth destroyers must be escorted by two old frigates that do have those guns

It's not like its main guns work though, because the magic next generation guns were made, then the order got cut so the cost of the shells for the guns went up to $800,000 per, and the Navy was like "NOPE" to that so now the guns have no shells

Hahaha jfc, heard most of that before but the main guns on the Zumwalt being too expensive to fire is just :wow:

Those same idiots don't faze an inch firing tomahawks at brown people for $1.4 mil each. The MIC lusts for the most expensive brown death imaginable.

Moridin920
Nov 15, 2007

by FactsAreUseless

Nebakenezzer posted:

They were early production training airframes (that 'couldn't be upgraded') but yeah, "put em in hangers, hope for the best" was the only option. If the eye had been 20 km further west it would have been a nonissue

Still not a good thing, though. The airframes are not replaceable, and this is the latest time where America's patented method of "spending lots to develop cutting edge technology" -> "dumb short term decision leads to production being a fraction of what was needed" -> "now the old things that needed to be replaced still need to be replaced while the new things are 'silver bullets'" -> "it turns out keeping in airframes and parts for things that had their order vastly cut down is more expensive than doing the same thing to the full order" didn't work out

See also the Zumwalt Destroyers, which because of this process cost as much as a Nimitz class supercarrier, and because of their lack of small guns that pretty much any naval ship has, the magic stelth destroyers must be escorted by two old frigates that do have those guns

It's not like its main guns work though, because the magic next generation guns were made, then the order got cut so the cost of the shells for the guns went up to $800,000 per, and the Navy was like "NOPE" to that so now the guns have no shells

Lmfao

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


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Sep 14, 2008

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Clapping Larry

sneak attack on houston from the wrong direction lol

Mariana Horchata
Jun 30, 2008

College Slice

Как тебе такое, Илон Маск?

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Stairmaster
Jun 8, 2012

nothing interesting will come of willa sorry

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