Mirificus posted:

kilus aof posted:

Also all CIG has to do to disprove us 'haters' and our groupthink is to release a game.

kilus aof posted:

Also all CIG has to do to disprove us 'haters' and our groupthink is to release a game.

Beet Goblin posted:

where they buy their milk or whatever

Beet Goblin posted:

I realize nobody has actually doxxed this guy yet but I think this is where I'm obligated to remind everyone that you don't have to compile dossiers on the weird reddit men and figure out where they buy their milk or whatever

Cyberpunkey Monkey posted:

That's not really a cargo cult... Cargo cult is a group of people who take on the appearance of something, thinking that will give them the "magical" powers that something has.... It was coined when indigenous natives would build effigies of cargo planes....

big nipples big life posted:

did i doxx myself? is that bad?

Beet Goblin posted:

I realize nobody has actually doxxed this guy yet but I think this is where I'm obligated to remind everyone that you don't have to compile dossiers on the weird reddit men and figure out where they buy their milk or whatever

Morphix posted:

suspension goes away, 1 hope you're having a great day response and my man's already thinking a conspiracy is a foot

i love the imagination of citizens, it's never them that attracts this hazing, it's something much greater, something much more sinister

e- just to clarify, i am not running multiple reddit accounts, I mean im an idiot but that's a level of commitment that this in no way deserves

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Star Citizen Has face tracking now! Its so scary, but also impressive! This will be a game changer for online interaction.

ewe2 posted:

No, that is expressly not what a cargo cult is. It's that very misconception that gives it the name. You obviously couldn't be bothered reading the link. Go back and read it.

I know of PJ's narrative theory, it has been applied to SC before, I wanted to look at it another way, we just don't have a better word than "cargo-cult" even though it's a problematic term.

The Titanic posted:

Very simply it's transforming into an FPS game with some limited space flight sections. Limited as much as they can possibly be. Planetary foot action will make pretty big leaps and bounds of ability, and look super pretty. There will be huge tracts of land and player housing and lots of cool features... maybe.

But why???

The space game is very hard.

The FPS game is significantly less hard, and definitely more in-line with what CryEngine was designed to do out of the box.

The magic trick though will be keeping ship sales going on while showing off more and more FPS action and constantly telling people how great it will be and that it's also in space.

Once CIG can successfully make the transition from selling space ships to selling land-based stuff, they'll be in that golden zone. A lot more will get out, more people will be happy, more wallets will open up.

colonelwest posted:

CIG is definitely very analogous to a Cargo Cult in the way that its run, all of the aesthetic trappings of a successful AAA developer without any of those parts actually serving a function. The first thing Chris did was set up shop in LA, one of the most expensive places possible and then go on a obscene spending spree on Mocapping A list actors because he was trying to outdo Activision and COD. Then he set up an enormously expensive and wasteful international corporate structure spread across two continents and three countries, because that's what major publishers like EA do (mainly so they can juggle multiple projects). He filled those studios with dumb luxuries like a 20k espresso machine maned by a full time barista and filled them to brim with concept art, because that's what disruptive tech startups do. He then instituted a wasteful yearly convention for his nonexistent game, because successful MMO developers (who have actually released games) do that. Then came quarterly releases, because that's what successful companies do for already released multiplayer games. And the list just goes on and on.

The community however, is a combination of a modern tech cult that idolizes technical progress without any understanding of its realities and limitations, in the vein of crypto currency idiots, tech startup fetishists and multi-level marketing scams, and more traditional religious cults. Chris and CIG have secret knowledge and abilities that will bring forth unprecedented ground breaking innovations that will not only form the most disruptive and popular video game ever, but deliver them into a Matrix like simulation of life in space without boundaries, in which they can leave behind all of their real world failings and social isolation and become powerful and respected space men living lives of adventure and fulfillment... and trains lots of trains.

Sarsapariller posted:

I'd say we've been pretty vocally skeptical of 1/2/3. Not like, that it couldn't be done, but that each one would multiply the complexity of every other system in the game by an order of magnitude. If you have players in vehicles, that makes everything the vehicles do that much harder. If the player can ride another vehicle, inside the first vehicle, that makes it even worse. And so on.

Which has turned out to be exactly correct. They've managed to eke out a tech demo, but 4 years late and 150 million over their initial budget projections and they're still not done.

That's been CIG's whole problem. Chris has no head for the big picture. He has a million big ideas and he expects that if you just hammer on them hard enough, they'll coalesce into a working model of a game. That is where 90% of the disconnect between cultists and skeptics is, I think. Cultists are a lot like Chris at this point- they are extremely focused on the newest ship, the newest system. They aren't looking at the bigger picture of the game. The newest UI looks great! (You didn't update the 50 ship UI's from before it and it doesn't look like you ever will.) The new mining mechanics are amazing! (They only work on one ship, none of the others can even equip mining stuff.) That new planet is awesome! (It's so far away that only the newest ship in the game can reach it, and it isn't actually fully implemented.)

Etc etc for years and years and years.

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Ok, who keeps giving money to the Star Citizen team?

Following the release of the star-studded trailer for Star Citizen's Squadron 42 single-player campaign, Roberts Space Industries (the game's parent company) reported that they received $379,254 on October 10 and $600,000 over the next three days. This brings the game's lifetime funding total to an astonishing $195,768,020. If you measure its untraditional funding and release structure against the funding and release structure of other games, then Star Citizen is currently the fourth most expensive game ever made.

Before we go any further, it should be noted that this astonishing amount can be attributed to more than just the release of a trailer. Star Citizen's alpha 3.3 was released to the game's public test servers. It's a somewhat substantial release (at least in the context of this game) that not only kicked off the start of CitizenCon (arguably the world's largest fan convention for something that barely exists) but included the release of content like the ability to map voice and facial features as well as some new ships.

It's certainly worth mentioning that one of those ships (the Anvil Valkyrie dropship) costs $330. Humorously, depending on your perspective, buying that ship doesn't grant you access to the game itself.

no_recall posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1NvzVO0FxT0

Launching tomorrow. Looks like a drat fun NMS clone. And oh. Star Fox.

Mirificus posted:

Brazilianpeanutwar posted:

Give it a rest man,noone cares.You're just prodding a mentally ill bees nest.

Sarsapariller posted:

That's the one with the toyiffic spaceship controller you have to plug parts into, yes?

big nipples big life posted:

Morphix, don't be a weirdo.

Morphix posted:

a fantastic point