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ConfusedUs posted:Make the title work like the crow and give it the white sloop back, and suddenly it's not bad at all Give it a White sloop and a red sloop the other way. It's right turns being Red is just really harsh, it's makes you so vulnerable to stress. Then the title working like mouldy crow and you're close I think.
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# ? Oct 16, 2018 15:28 |
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# ? May 26, 2024 01:10 |
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Lol @ everyone who bought three JM5k's during first edition. You all got proper Jedi Mind Tricked!
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# ? Oct 16, 2018 16:33 |
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I only bought one, but I sure would like to be able to actually use it again. Dengar was cool. I'm not a fan of them intentionally designing an entire ship to basically be unplayable. Alex Davy kind of laughed about it on a stream and said he feels like any ship can be good at the right price, but the ship is vastly worse than a Shuttle right now. I'm honestly not sure it's fixable at any reasonable price without a massive change from a title.
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# ? Oct 16, 2018 16:59 |
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The Gate posted:I only bought one, but I sure would like to be able to actually use it again. Dengar was cool. I'm not a fan of them intentionally designing an entire ship to basically be unplayable. Alex Davy kind of laughed about it on a stream and said he feels like any ship can be good at the right price, but the ship is vastly worse than a Shuttle right now. I'm honestly not sure it's fixable at any reasonable price without a massive change from a title. I have no idea how they could have sat down and thought , yes Han Solo in the Millennium Falcon, that feels like it's about 2 pts more than a Contracted Scout. At least let it turn it's loving turret without gaining stress, I think it's the only turreted ship just now that cannot simply turn it's turret as an action I think.
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# ? Oct 16, 2018 17:10 |
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Aramoro posted:I have no idea how they could have sat down and thought , yes Han Solo in the Millennium Falcon, that feels like it's about 2 pts more than a Contracted Scout. At least let it turn it's loving turret without gaining stress, I think it's the only turreted ship just now that cannot simply turn it's turret as an action I think. And Han has a whole extra arc, another crew and a gunner slot And, you know, a usable dial
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# ? Oct 16, 2018 17:14 |
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Simply put, the JM5k is probably the ship that got the single hardest hit by the 'nerf everything that war broken in 1e' bat. Which... to be honest I have very little issue with. The JM5k was also the single most nerfed ship in 1e and after ALL the nerfs was still one of the most efficient ships in the game and THE best blocker.
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# ? Oct 16, 2018 21:38 |
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thespaceinvader posted:Simply put, the JM5k is probably the ship that got the single hardest hit by the 'nerf everything that war broken in 1e' bat. Which... to be honest I have very little issue with. The JM5k was also the single most nerfed ship in 1e and after ALL the nerfs was still one of the most efficient ships in the game and THE best blocker. 1e and 2e are effectively different games. They've just made a lovely unusable ship for 2e. This reasoning that it was too good in a totally different game is stupid.
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# ? Oct 16, 2018 21:51 |
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thespaceinvader posted:Simply put, the JM5k is probably the ship that got the single hardest hit by the 'nerf everything that war broken in 1e' bat. Which... to be honest I have very little issue with. The JM5k was also the single most nerfed ship in 1e and after ALL the nerfs was still one of the most efficient ships in the game and THE best blocker. Cool but like....I quit playing before that point really. A lot of people did. Having bad feels about a ship that was broken in what is effectively a different game and making it intentionally bad is stupid.
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# ? Oct 16, 2018 21:52 |
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I'm not gonna argue, it is pretty stupid. I still don't have any issue with it. Dengar is usable, but you basically have to treat him as a single front arc ship. If you use him that way he's honestly pretty buff. He's not at Boba levels versus much lower init ships- but he does out Init Boba, so... thespaceinvader fucked around with this message at 22:01 on Oct 16, 2018 |
# ? Oct 16, 2018 21:55 |
No he’s bad because there’s no way to get him action economy. If fearless worked maybe.
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# ? Oct 16, 2018 22:01 |
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ConfusedUs posted:No he’s bad because there’s no way to get him action economy. If fearless worked maybe. R3 Astromech works for him, but yeah, that is a bit penalty.
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# ? Oct 16, 2018 22:01 |
thespaceinvader posted:R3 Astromech works for him, but yeah, that is a bit penalty. I could see a case for this plus proton torps but you’d also have to buy the title to get the droid slot...
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# ? Oct 16, 2018 22:09 |
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ConfusedUs posted:I could see a case for this plus proton torps but you’d also have to buy the title to get the droid slot... If you're playing Dengar you're buying the title.
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# ? Oct 16, 2018 22:13 |
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thespaceinvader posted:If you're playing Dengar you're buying the title. Then you're going to be paying near a 100 pts for him rather than literally anyone else. Like 2 Tugboats have more gun, more health and better dials than Dengar.
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# ? Oct 16, 2018 22:30 |
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Aramoro posted:Then you're going to be paying near a 100 pts for him rather than literally anyone else. Like 2 Tugboats have more gun, more health and better dials than Dengar. I'm not disagreeing. But your two tugboats don't have more gun, if you fly him correctly. They fire twice with two dice with a maximum of one mod each, he fires twice with three dice with a maximum of one mod each. The second shot is a HUGE advantage, and a 3+ die double tap is only otherwise possible with Rebel Han Gunner AND Roark in the same list AFAIK. He's definitely overpriced, don't get me wrong, but he's a lot less overpriced than the other Jumps.
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# ? Oct 16, 2018 22:51 |
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thespaceinvader posted:I'm not disagreeing. But your two tugboats don't have more gun, if you fly him correctly. They fire twice with two dice with a maximum of one mod each, he fires twice with three dice with a maximum of one mod each. You don't need Roark for the double tap with Han do you? I mean Boba can double tap with the Gunner and at least you dont need someone to shoot you to activate it.
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# ? Oct 16, 2018 22:58 |
thespaceinvader posted:He's definitely overpriced, don't get me wrong, but he's a lot less overpriced than the other Jumps. I can agree with that. Before it was clarified that fearless doesn’t work, I had a decent build with Dengar/Fearless/R3 flown with boba and L337. I always got his value, but mostly by just ramming the entire list right down people’s throats. Losing Fearless made the offense too variable. I stopped reliably trading him for stuff.
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# ? Oct 16, 2018 23:00 |
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Aramoro posted:You don't need Roark for the double tap with Han do you? When I say double tap, I mean double tap *the same target*
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# ? Oct 16, 2018 23:01 |
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lazerus06 posted:I bought a set of these tokens and love them. They are currently sold out though... looks like burgers are back on the menu boys!
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# ? Oct 17, 2018 00:53 |
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banned from Starbucks posted:looks like burgers are back on the menu boys! Thanks for the heads up. Bye, bye 30 quid
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# ? Oct 17, 2018 01:05 |
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Raged posted:Thanks for the heads up. Bye, bye 30 quid dont forget the discount! TAKEMETOBURGERTOWN
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# ? Oct 17, 2018 01:07 |
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Let me know if you guys have any questions about our stuff @ Burger Tokens. Also wow you guys are fast. One person from SA somehow bought some in the brief window before I sent the email to our mailing list.
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# ? Oct 17, 2018 03:06 |
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banned from Starbucks posted:dont forget the discount! TAKEMETOBURGERTOWN Oh I did. Shipping to Australia made it 30ish total.
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# ? Oct 17, 2018 03:08 |
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Are these going to sell out before I can arrange a group buy at league on Thursday, you reckon?
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# ? Oct 17, 2018 03:23 |
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Well, I don't play X-wing a whole lot anymore and I have some acrylic tokens from 1.0 that look nice... But the burger tokens look too drat nice, and a league is kicking up on Thursday at the FLGS. Ordered.
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# ? Oct 17, 2018 04:10 |
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Is there any way to order a set of only the burger turns that should be on circular bases? I really like the circle/square, end of turn dynamic, but I also like the look of these a lot. Edit: oh, looks like the way they're made the answer is tragically no
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# ? Oct 17, 2018 04:25 |
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Since they're basically a beefed up sticker I think you could just put them on square washers. There would be metal overhang, but you'd still get the circle/square effect.
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# ? Oct 17, 2018 04:33 |
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hoiyes posted:Are these going to sell out before I can arrange a group buy at league on Thursday, you reckon? You should be fine. There has been a lot more orders than we expected but not enough to put us out of stock by the end of the week. Signal posted:Is there any way to order a set of only the burger turns that should be on circular bases? I really like the circle/square, end of turn dynamic, but I also like the look of these a lot. For what it's worth, even though our tokens are round, the art on each token has a border that matches the shape of the cardboard token.
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# ? Oct 17, 2018 04:57 |
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banned from Starbucks posted:looks like burgers are back on the menu boys! Awesome! I bought an upgrade kit to round out the initial set I bought. Over the weekend I had a chance to choose some acrylic tokens from winning a tournament. I didn't take them b/c everything else doesn't look as good as the burger tokens.
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# ? Oct 17, 2018 13:23 |
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I want to do Oicunn up right. However, I can't think of anything else to put on Decimator instead of having the extra TIE. (Pretty sure I stole this list from someone itt, btw) Captain Oicunn (84) Intimidation (3) Dauntless (6) “Whisper” (52) Juke (4) Darth Vader (14) Stealth Device (6) Academy Pilot (23) Total: 192 I was thinking maybe 0-0-0 and Death Troopers.
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# ? Oct 17, 2018 20:57 |
A force point will help a lot. Lock + force is solid modification.
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# ? Oct 17, 2018 21:09 |
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I'm gonna try this out. Captain Oicunn (84) Intimidation (3) Seventh Sister (12) 0-0-0 (3) Veteran Turret Gunner (8) Shield Upgrade (3) Dauntless (6) “Whisper” (52) Juke (4) Darth Vader (14) Stealth Device (6) Total: 195
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# ? Oct 17, 2018 21:23 |
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Thanks burger tokens and curled paw creations for letting me use my wallet to tell FFG, gently caress you for not including everything in the conversion kits!
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# ? Oct 17, 2018 23:11 |
Mexicola posted:Thanks burger tokens and curled paw creations for letting me use my wallet to tell FFG, gently caress you for not including everything in the conversion kits! Yes you sure showed FFG by buying their stuff and then by buying other stuff from other people that FFG doesn't even sell themselves. Kick rear end! Finster Dexter posted:I'm gonna try this out. I really don't like Veteran Turret Gunner except on Y-Wings. I think I've used it once anywhere else. There just aren't many situations in which your bowtie turret ship is both alive and has people in arc on both sides. Minister Tua, on the other hand, is godlike on Decimators.
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# ? Oct 18, 2018 03:18 |
I think I found the new party bus load out. Trandoshan Slaver Jabba the Hutt Lando Calrissian Contraband Cybernetics Jabba plus CC is really strong. You can do red moves and still get actions for five rounds. By time you run out of CC charges you’re either winning or the ship is dead. Lando lets you reinforce every round and then spend it to re roll.
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# ? Oct 19, 2018 05:14 |
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Played my first few games of 2.0. So far it feels way better than end of 1.0 did. I ran this and won both my games. X wings are so much fun now. T-65 X-wing - •Luke Skywalker - 76 •Luke Skywalker - Red Five (62) R4 Astromech (2) Supernatural Reflexes (12) Servomotor S-foils (Open) (0) T-65 X-wing - •Wedge Antilles - 60 •Wedge Antilles - Red Two (52) Outmaneuver (6) R4 Astromech (2) Servomotor S-foils (Open) (0) ARC-170 Starfighter - •Norra Wexley - 64 •Norra Wexley - Gold Nine (55) Proton Torpedoes (9) Total: 200/200 View in the X-Wing Squad Builder
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# ? Oct 19, 2018 09:05 |
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ConfusedUs posted:I think I found the new party bus load out. Good idea using the generic slaver to get double utility out of reinforce. This seems like a good balance of control, survivability and damage. 4-LOM (49) Elusive (3) Advanced Sensors (8) 0-0-0 (3) Mist Hunter (2) Palob Godalhi (38) Debris Gambit (2) L3-37 (4) Moldy Crow (12) Trandoshan Slaver (58) Jabba the Hutt (8) Lando Calrissian (8) Contraband Cybernetics (5) Total: 200 View in Yet Another Squad Builder 2.0
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# ? Oct 20, 2018 21:40 |
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That list looks ridiculously fun!
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# ? Oct 20, 2018 21:54 |
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Yeah looks fun, im a fan of that 4-lom build and that Palob build looks good.
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# ? Oct 20, 2018 22:00 |
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# ? May 26, 2024 01:10 |
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I played against a similar list of 4-LOM, Palob, and Kavil, and got my rear end handed to me. Kavil all but directed my Reaper out of the fight, while Palob stole tokens from whoever 4-LOM was going to murder/dump stress on.
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# ? Oct 20, 2018 22:28 |