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Grittybeard posted:I'll buy that Hitchens could at least be aggressive in his not-goodness. Dude just like, hangs back and tackles people instead of heading towards a gap or having the ability to read and react in a productive way. I think you guys are going to win the west but goddamn I'm looking forward to our rematch, especially if Bosa is back
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Isnt Sutton the guy who keeps having Justin Houston drop back into coverage?
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AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:Isnt Sutton the guy who keeps having Justin Houston drop back into coverage? It's a big problem with all 3-4 defenses, not just the Chiefs. You're seeing more 4 wide sets, pass-catching TEs and RBs than ever before, and sooner or later, numbers dictate that there's gonna be bad matches on LBs, especially when you have an extra one on the field.
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The Bengals have 15 players on there Wednesday injury report and anywhere between 10 and 12 starters depending on how you qualify it. They traditionally do better against teams that have good offenses and weak defenses then vice versa but holyshit that is an injury report I suppose hypothetically they could beat Kansas City but if any of you want to bet the over on points scored I'd probably recommend it.
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Eifert Posting posted:I suppose hypothetically they could beat Kansas City but if any of you want to bet the over on points scored I'd probably recommend it. This is generally true in any game Kansas City is involved in no matter the injuries for what it's worth.
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The number was 58 I think in the NE game that had 83.
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kiimo posted:The number was 58 I think in the NE game that had 83. It was 60. tbh the OU is kinda irrelevant just take the over.
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Grittybeard posted:This is generally true in any game Kansas City is involved in no matter the injuries for what it's worth. Oh, I'm aware, and also Cincinnati is habitually bad defending young quarterbacks, mobile quarterbacks, and offenses that tend to target the intermediate middle of the field. Good thing the Kansas City team doesn't have any of that.  I'm going to consider anything less than 50 offensive points a victory for our defense this Sunday. Andy also tends to feast on teams that can't manage an interior pass rush, but I don't anticipate them keeping up to that extent. If the Bengals don't do their typical poo poo the bed Primetime football thing I could see them putting up a ton of points but not that many.
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Eifert Posting posted:Oh, I'm aware, and also Cincinnati is habitually bad defending young quarterbacks, mobile quarterbacks, and offenses that tend to target the intermediate middle of the field. Good thing the Kansas City team doesn't have any of that. We're obviously headed towards a completely inexplicable 10-6 game.
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Oct 18, 2018 01:26
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kiimo posted:After discussing the players' skill level ad nauseum for six weeks we have determined it's the scheme. Sutton has to go. Whatever he's attempting to do is not working. Whether that's because he can't communicate, the players aren't listening or the players can't do what he's asking, or a combo of all three, it's not working and he's the common denominator. The Walrus once hired his OL coach as DC I don't think Sutton is gonna get canned any time soon
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I think the League should Calvinball more often, even if it is select games like a Superbowl or Pro Bowl. Hire a Basketball Coach as OC. Suplexes and wrestling moves permissible. Make all O Lineman eligible receivers. Passing allowed in any direction by any player. Random Tiger. Giant Off Road Death Machine. Etc.
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Incidentally the Chiefs fans are hard at work creating a name for the defense. Currently in the lead: The Red Carpet Also-rans: Greatest Ho on Turf Sultans of Suck Legion of Gloom The Burnt Ends The Cover-Who Defense KC and the Touchdown Band Yackety No Sacks
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Grittybeard posted:Like that's hard, all you need to do is goatse Jeff Passan after he doesn't vote for Jeff Bagwell getting into the hall of fame. Then he calls your mom looking for you. I think it was Jeff Pearlman and not Jeff Passan, but I might be flipping two stories here E: lmao at the Burnt Ends, 100% on board with that
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Unironically in favor of Burnt Ends, but most of those are gold.
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I didn't really mention that most of the uh...grittier of football fans in KC in true midwest fashion are currently voting for a simpler name. Queefense.
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Yeah Burnt Ends is great!
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A lot of those are clever, but Burnt Ends is clever and very KC. So it shall be.
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Five minutes of reading a Wikipedia article about the US Civil War around Kansas City leads me to believe the Chiefs defense should be referred to as The Army of Missouri.
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kiimo posted:Chiefs fans are currently caught up in the ground swell of the insanely awesome idea of hiring former Chief Jack Del Rio as defensive coordinator to replace Bob Sutton when he is fired any day now. I'm all for it but my hopes and dreams are that Bowles will get fired soon leading to him getting back together with Andey maybe Hitchens doesn't hit the gaps cause Bob says NO?
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MY NIGGA D-LINK posted:It's a big problem with all 3-4 defenses, not just the Chiefs. You're seeing more 4 wide sets, pass-catching TEs and RBs than ever before, and sooner or later, numbers dictate that there's gonna be bad matches on LBs, especially when you have an extra one on the field. Is it really a problem, though? If you've got a guy who draws a lot of attention you can really gently caress with blocking schemes- you can get guys blocking air, discourage teams from committing too much attention to a guy who might not come, etc., and you can facilitate blitzes. There are guys like James Harrison who only rushed like 60-70% of his passing down snaps, and I think there's an argument to be made he really didn't suffer for it.
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So with Derek Anderson starting, Kelvin Benjamin is gonna have a great game since in all of his starts with Carolina, 29% of Anderson's TD passes were to Benjamin, therefore Anderson is going to slip on a shower mat and Peterman is still gonna start
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Why has Buffalo not signed another quarterback? Keep Peterman around as an emergency guy for a week or two while the new guy learns the offense a little, I'm fine with that. But outside of actual emergencies there is absolutely no way this man should ever see the field again. e: I mean, I'd rather play Ryan Lindley and it isn't particularly close. Which is an amazing thing to say.
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kiimo posted:Chiefs fans are currently caught up in the ground swell of the insanely awesome idea of hiring former Chief Jack Del Rio as defensive coordinator to replace Bob Sutton when he is fired any day now. He hasn’t been a dc since 2002, unless I’m forgetting something after Jacksonville.
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Grittybeard posted:Why has Buffalo not signed another quarterback? Suck for [checks notes] Justin Herbert?
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FizFashizzle posted:He hasn’t been a dc since 2002, unless I’m forgetting something after Jacksonville.
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Finger Prince posted:Five minutes of reading a Wikipedia article about the US Civil War around Kansas City leads me to believe the Chiefs defense should be referred to as The Army of Missouri. Is Andy Reid going to flee to Mexico after their first round exit?
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It’s really sad when the parents can’t let go. quote:Joey Bosa (foot) is on track to return "in a few weeks." He just saw him. He was in the backyard. He was training and getting ready. You’ll see.
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Jiminy Christmas! Shoes! posted:Is Andy Reid going to flee to Mexico after their first round exit? Maybe Bob Sutton will leave to coach the Mexico City expansion with half the Chiefs defensive staff?
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Sports Illustrated is doing a Crime Podcast with an investigator who did a private investigation in the death of Steve McNair. There's only one episode out and I haven't listened to it yet but it might be good. It's called "Fall of a Titan".
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Grittybeard posted:Why has Buffalo not signed another quarterback? shade.gif
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FizFashizzle posted:It’s really sad when the parents can’t let go. It's a miracle he ever got to play an NFL snap. His younger brother was less fortunate. RIP Bosa family.
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Grittybeard posted:I'll buy that Hitchens could at least be aggressive in his not-goodness. Dude just like, hangs back and tackles people instead of heading towards a gap or having the ability to read and react in a productive way. This is pretty much exactly what Manti T'eo used to do when he was with the Chargers. Racks up a lot of tackle numbers but almost all of them are like 5+ yards down the field on run plays and none of them are genuinely worthwhile plays. It's a tough situation to be in to have ILBs who are limited in that respect. In general with defenses, it seems like the best course of action is to, more or less, just keep things simple and put your players in a position where they can maximize their strengths and minimize their weaknesses, without making them think too much about what they're trying to do. It's why Wade Phillips, among others, has been successful since basically forever. MY NIGGA D-LINK posted:Zone coverage defenses aren't faring well in the new NFL. I mean, Brady solved the 3-4 defense, soft zone coverage like 14 years ago, but the newer offensive schemes that do a lot of RPO just shred zone coverage Zone coverage doesn't fare very well when you're playing against offenses that have A): good offensive lines that can hold off the pass rush and B): when the offense in question has their WRs run a ton of option routes so the QB can find the WRs inside the holes in the coverage. The Patriots' offense has pretty much been that since Brady took over, and there's a lot of teams with conceptually similar concepts playing in today's NFL, alongside the usual spread stuff. The Chargers for sure do a lot of similar passing concepts, and I believe the Steelers and Browns both do as well. (and most of the OCs of those teams come from the same Erdhart-Perkins offensive branch, for the most part. I know Todd Haley does, since he coached under Charlies Weis and Ken Whisenhunt among others) In order for it to work you have to have a freakishly talented front 7 to get by with mainly zone coverage, like what the Panthers had 3-4 years ago.
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Here's a deeper dive on Seattle's offensive line improvement. https://touchdownwire.usatoday.com/2018/10/17/seahawks-offensive-line-turnaround-proves-the-value-of-actual-coaching/ I'm still not sure how much of it has to do with coaching and how much has to do with improved line/RB health and a full year of Duane Brown, but the level of improvement in Germain Ifedi and JR Sweezy has been undeniable. DJ Fluker has been a fantastic pickup so far too, which...who saw that coming? Very happy the team isn't running out Luke Joeckel and Rees Odihambo anymore. But I have a hard time seeing any of that gelling without Solari's coaching. Anyway, have fun with Tom Cable, Raiders fans!
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FizFashizzle posted:It’s really sad when the parents can’t let go. Save some meatloaf for Joey, you know it's his favorite. He's going to be so hungry! *glances at empty chair* *eats in silence*
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