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Dolphin posted:PC was invented by Republicans to convince voters that complaints about inequality amounted to the censorship of words. This aversion to PC was glorified as a heroic gritty movement that promoted damning the thought police and expressing yourself, no matter how offensive to the overly sensitive liberals. It quickly gained popularity in the minds of the right AND the left to the detriment of women, LGBT, and minorities. I'm not sure I'm parsing this correctly. When you say, "PC was invented by Republicans," do you mean that just the term "politically correct" and its grammatical variants (i.e., political correctness) was invented by Republicans? Or, if they didn't literally invent the term, that they are the ones responsible for popularizing its use as a pejorative? Or are you suggesting that they actually invented the concept of political correctness in some kind of master plan to later use it as a pejorative as a part of some kind of political Batman gambit? I'm not saying I agree or disagree with you, but I am only 70% sure I know what you're trying to say here.
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Oct 17, 2018 19:22
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moist turtleneck posted:This argument sucks and is boring Really? Because I enjoy people droning on for pages about PC CULTURE without any shared definition of what it means.
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Doltos posted:Oh, that's what happened. Here's an excerpt that didn't age well: quote:At Harvard, two students who hung a Confederate flag out a dormitory window were denounced by black students. It was a concerted effort in the early 90s. Dolphin fucked around with this message at 19:55 on Oct 17, 2018 |
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Oct 17, 2018 19:48
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Dolphin posted:PC was invented by Republicans to convince voters that complaints about inequality amounted to the censorship of words. This aversion to PC was glorified as a heroic gritty movement that promoted damning the thought police and expressing yourself, no matter how offensive to the overly sensitive liberals. It quickly gained popularity in the minds of the right AND the left to the detriment of women, LGBT, and minorities. It's the real-world equivalent of "rock flag and eagle, right Charlie?" "He's got a point!" Suckers fall for it every time. People railing against PC culture are the same suckers who would be asking people in the 60s to "stop talking about the negro problem" in polite company.
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Another Bill posted:Really? Because I enjoy people droning on for pages about PC CULTURE without any shared definition of what it means. Nah you were looking for a fight. You know exactly what people mean when they say PC culture and acting like you don't is just a way to instigate. Quit it. Dolphin posted:Yes, it's literally what happened. Oh so you're saying the term was made up back in the 90s and nothing that has happened since then has anything to do with how people view current PC culture.
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Oct 17, 2018 20:31
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lol the front page of imgur has my gif of the gang attacking those kids but it's a bad copy somebody ripped with some screen ripper so it has a ton of tearing Like...just use the original gif you jabroni
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If we really want to get into an etymological argument, which we don't, isn't it widely accepted that "political correctness" as a term was actually invented by communists in the context of if an argument or text conflicted with the party line? And the its meaning radically changed during the culture wars as a way for the right to oppose student movements and the rise of ethnic studies departments? Like, isn't that a pretty common understanding of the history of the term?
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The only time I ever hear anyone say "politically correct" are retarded old guys excusing themselves for using slurs
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Maybe real political correctness is the friends we've made along the way.
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Pharmaskittle posted:The only time I ever hear anyone say "politically correct" are retarded old guys excusing themselves for using slurs
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It's almost like terrible old racist Frank's offensive outbursts about political correctness and liberal bullshit are in fact satirizing the type of people who legitimately complain about such things rather than the show's creator's winking in support of his views.
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Oct 17, 2018 22:17
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Just remember, there's always someone watching saying "Yeah, that's totally us."
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STAC Goat posted:Just remember, there's always someone watching saying "Yeah, that's totally us." It sort of upsets me that people are watching this show totally missing the point while they slap their knee after Mac totally says what we're all thinking about the gay agenda or Frank tells it how it is about asian drivers or gets reasonably frustrated about how the he-she's can't make up their minds on what we call them today. It's like someone watching Starship Troopers, nodding along thinking Verhoeven has depicted a very good society.
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Oct 17, 2018 22:21
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I say that's totally me when frank bangs whores with his magnum dong
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i was that guy that had the car everyone hated they hated it so much that they blew it up while i watched the golf channel
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Baronjutter posted:It sort of upsets me that people are watching this show totally missing the point while they slap their knee after Mac totally says what we're all thinking about the gay agenda or Frank tells it how it is about asian drivers or gets reasonably frustrated about how the he-she's can't make up their minds on what we call them today. Its just the inevitability of this kind of satire. Colbert. Chappelle. Some people are always going to read it the other way because it fits their perspective.
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Baronjutter posted:It's almost like terrible old racist Frank's offensive outbursts about political correctness and liberal bullshit are in fact satirizing the type of people who legitimately complain about such things rather than the show's creator's winking in support of his views. Portrayal isn't condoning. And yes, there are always going to be people who don't understand satire, but when it's an extreme minority of your fans, and not the overwhelming and very vocal majority of them (see also: Rick and Morty), you're clearly getting it right.
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The real world always tries to outcrazy all forms of satire and vice versa. That's a spiral of destruction and misery. Should satire be outlawed? Could Trump have become president if satirics wouldn't have normalized that idea by coming up with something almost as stupid as that? The general idea of satire is to make the audience hope it never gets this bad. But how often does that happen in a helpful way? cant cook creole bream fucked around with this message at 23:02 on Oct 17, 2018 |
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Baronjutter posted:It sort of upsets me that people are watching this show totally missing the point while they slap their knee after Mac totally says what we're all thinking about the gay agenda or Frank tells it how it is about asian drivers or gets reasonably frustrated about how the he-she's can't make up their minds on what we call them today. It's like people who watch Archie Bunker and slap their knees at everything America's Lovable Bigot says that's off-kilter. "You tell 'em, Arch!" they shout at the TV before lamenting the fact that "they don't make 'em [sitcoms] like they used to!", all the while remaining blissfully unaware that Archie's politics are the joke--we're supposed to laugh at his worldview, not with it.
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tarlibone posted:It's like people who watch Archie Bunker and slap their knees at everything America's Lovable Bigot says that's off-kilter. "You tell 'em, Arch!" they shout at the TV before lamenting the fact that "they don't make 'em [sitcoms] like they used to!", all the while remaining blissfully unaware that Archie's politics are the joke--we're supposed to laugh at his worldview, not with it.
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I like that Mac and Dennis were Jerry.
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SLICK GOKU BABY posted:A loving clip show. How sad I was hoping you were joking. Edit: Haah I knew I needed to give it time. Brawnfire fucked around with this message at 04:11 on Oct 18, 2018 |
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Oh my loving GOD shut up about PC and South Park and whatever else you jabronis have been going in circles about for the last five pages.
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Grem posted:Oh my loving GOD shut up about PC and South Park and whatever else you jabronis have been going in circles about for the last five pages. Dude, there was a new episode, we could have moved past it, but yet here you are bringing it back up.
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Brawnfire posted:I noticed they bleeped "retarded" in the Christmas clip, very odd line to draw seconds before multiple gently caress-bombs and physical violence, I'm curious about FXX's censorship policies now. That was a joke, in previous episodes the gang decided it's not okay to use the R-word.
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Zartosht posted:That was a joke, in previous episodes the gang decided it's not okay to use the R-word. drat, nice touch then.
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I don't know what I was hoping for with the Seinfeld bits but it left me feeling a little disappointed. I do like that they tried something new and interesting but it just wasn't all that funny. Kind of like when an old comedy has a "very special episode", it's nice but I probably wouldn't rewatch it.
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Clip shows seem so antiquated in the youtube era. I'm only like 7 minutes in, does it change?
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Milo and POTUS posted:Clip shows seem so antiquated in the youtube era. I'm only like 7 minutes in, does it change? The first seven minutes are to sucker you into thinking you know what's coming.
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Brawnfire posted:I noticed they bleeped "retarded" in the Christmas clip, very odd line to draw seconds before multiple gently caress-bombs and physical violence, I'm curious about FXX's censorship policies now. Glenn mentioned that he regrets the episode "Sweet Dee is dating a retarded person" because of the use of that word. It makes total sense that they would bleep it now while not bleeping the gently caress word. The word gently caress doesn't hurt anything, but "retarded" is a hurtful word. Also, I was thinking it was lame that they were doing a clip show because I've already yuk'd it up to all these funny moments a million times. Then they get into thinking they were seinfeld, and then the inception thing. It was pretty good.
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Yeah this ended up being way better than I expected. And the rapper episode was a classic and at least they said retarded person in the title.
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