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Murara and One owns. OPM is great
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Oct 18, 2018 06:02
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The guy has such structured compositions that he always knows exactly where everything is, it's really something to see (non-manga fan)
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Oct 18, 2018 06:50
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No but you see it's manga and therefore has no place in this, a place of high society talking about important, sophisticated things. (OPM is indeed Cool And Good.)
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Oct 18, 2018 07:12
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Mr. Maltose posted:So which director are you going to brag about watching this time you think someone called you racist? What the gently caress are you even talking about.
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Oct 18, 2018 07:18
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You really don't remember the last time this idiot conversation happened, when you thought someone called you racist and your defense was that you really really loved Kurosawa movies.
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Oct 18, 2018 07:25
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I guess I don't keep a catalogue of every dumbass circular argument about anime and manga I'm a part of.
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Oct 18, 2018 07:46
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Gavok posted:Venom Annual His Juggernaut in the Egyptian Silver Surfer story in Secret Wars was really great too.
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Oct 18, 2018 07:58
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Gavok posted:Venom Annual hahaha you could absolutely post this in the funny panels thread too, those expressions are gold
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Oct 18, 2018 09:22
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I may buy someone a juggs reaction shot. I am not sure if this is a good thing for the person or not
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Oct 18, 2018 09:28
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TwoPair posted:And the bimonthly manga completes again. Also, they always get posted flipped over, so the dialogue bubbles are in backwards order.
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Oct 18, 2018 10:18
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prefect posted:Also, they always get posted flipped over, so the dialogue bubbles are in backwards order. ah so you mean it should read TwoPair posted:And the bimonthly manga completes again. ?
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Oct 18, 2018 10:22
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Herr Tog posted:I may buy someone a juggs reaction shot. I am not sure if this is a good thing for the person or not I've been looking for a new avatar, if you don't end up using it on some other poor soul let me know.
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Oct 18, 2018 10:35
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Lurdiak posted:I guess I don't keep a catalogue of every dumbass circular argument about anime and manga I'm a part of. Then maybe you wanna have a think about what that says about your posting?
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Oct 18, 2018 10:45
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Lurdiak is a BravestOfTheLamps clone without the occasional really good monologue about an extremely specific topic. It would be very cool if folks didn't quote them or egg them on. edit: hmm Captain Invictus fucked around with this message at 11:42 on Oct 18, 2018 |
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Oct 18, 2018 10:59
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Wow that’s really badass how she knees him in the face like that.
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Oct 18, 2018 11:08
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Right, that's a bad one, can't defend it.
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Oct 18, 2018 11:33
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Delicious In Dungeon: One of the characters has been grabbed by a griffin, and Marcille, the magic user, has been trying to summon a magical minion to help the party rescue him. Up to this point it hasn't worked well because the griffin outclassed her summons, so she needs to get on that other level (right to left): 
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Oct 18, 2018 12:06
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That probably fits in the funny panels thread. Bwing
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Oct 18, 2018 12:22
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Flesh Forge posted:Delicious In Dungeon: One of the characters has been grabbed by a griffin, and Marcille, the magic user, has been trying to summon a magical minion to help the party rescue him. Up to this point it hasn't worked well because the griffin outclassed her summons, so she needs to get on that other level (right to left): Just post Laius stabbing the red dragon while getting his leg eaten.
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Oct 18, 2018 12:36
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Somebody did a few pages ago  Kill Six Billion Demons: Allison knows kung fu 
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Oct 18, 2018 13:28
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I have to start reading that again.
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Oct 18, 2018 14:56
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Samuringa posted:lmao if you are implying almost every single comic page posted in this forum isn't pirated No, I'm openly stating that it's not blatantly obvious that they're scans or downloaded from FREECOMIX DOT COM or whatever. I realize for anime fans this is unusual since they all handwave away how unfair it is to have to wait for something to get translated or whatever and they deserve it for free today instead. Also, Lurdiak is a good poster. Endless Mike fucked around with this message at 15:23 on Oct 18, 2018 |
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Oct 18, 2018 15:15
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I feel like I end up saying a variation of this every time the Manga Conversation comes up, but I think people who want to post manga should be mindful of the different visual grammars of Eastern and Western comics storytelling, and also keep in mind that we all probably recognize Spider-Man, that he's good, Mysterio, that he's bad, Batman, The Hulk, whoever else, just by cultural osmosis and being immersed in that culture, whereas most mangas will need more contextualizing or else it just looks like crazed, confusing motion. I think the OPM "clips" posted in here are a good example because OPM is absolutely a virtuosic comic and its battle scenes are among the best, and so cinemographic that gifs like the ones posted are possible (and very impressive)-- but they still demonstrate how the "camera" moves and behaves differently in manga, and how showing motion and interstitial "frames" is prioritized differently than it is in Western superhero comics, which tend towards tableu-like "shots" that on a surface level are more immediately "readable." Both are solid techniques and I think the best artists in both mediums draw from each other (see the just-posted Kill Six Billions, or, well, the just posted James Stokoe) but when people who don't read much manga say that manga fight scenes are difficult to follow I don't think they're necessarily just being stubborn. I was trying to think of which action mangas I'd actually call good matches for a thread like this populated mostly by readers of Western comics, as a thought exercise-- even stuff like Lone Wolf and Cub which has scrupulously clear fight staging moves at a pace which might seem jerky or bloated at first glance. I think Blade of the Immortal has absolutely unbeatable fight scenes but often the problem comes up of interspersing panels that "communicate" peoples' various moves, counterattacks, manuevering, etc. with sort of the fight equivalent of pillow shots, just emphasizing how people move, or the ambience. Samura's emphasis on motion in particular leads to a decent amount of panels that might just look like weird blurs. I think Dungeon Meshi is actually a really good candidate, not only because Ryoko Kui has such a clean, elegant style, but because her characters and situations draw on fantasy archetypes nobody reading this forum could possibly be unfamiliar with. The elf wizard casts big spells, the knight goes in with his sword, the little thief sneaks around for an ambush, etc.. Since most Dungeon Meshi stories are done in one the pacing is a little closer to Western action scenes too-- brisk, snappy, each panel communicating at least one shift in the tide of the fight. (I'm not even a huge manga expert, so like, I won't pretend that the above is comprehensive or even particularly insightful. But I think that comics being a global medium now is wonderful, and that reading stuff from anywhere in the world that you can is well worth doing, and it seems like a shame to look at a country that produces an enormous amount of comics and go, "no, absolutely not this one") How Wonderful! fucked around with this message at 15:29 on Oct 18, 2018 |
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Archyduke posted:I feel like I end up saying a variation of this every time the Manga Conversation comes up, but I think people who want to post manga should be mindful of the different visual grammars of Eastern and Western comics storytelling, and also keep in mind that we all probably recognize Spider-Man, that he's good, Mysterio, that he's bad, Batman, The Hulk, whoever else, just by cultural osmosis and being immersed in that culture, whereas most mangas will need more contextualizing or else it just looks like crazed, confusing motion. I think the OPM "clips" posted in here are a good example because OPM is absolutely a virtuosic comic and its battle scenes are among the best, and so cinemographic that gifs like the ones posted are possible (and very impressive)-- but they still demonstrate how the "camera" moves and behaves differently in manga, and how showing motion and interstitial "frames" is prioritized differently than it is in Western superhero comics, which tend towards tableu-like "shots" that on a surface level are more immediately "readable." Both are solid techniques and I think the best artists in both mediums draw from each other (see the just-posted Kill Six Billions, or, well, the just posted James Stokoe) but when people who don't read much manga say that manga fight scenes are difficult to follow I don't think they're necessarily just being stubborn. Ok but it's better when Thor throws his hammer really hard.
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Oct 18, 2018 15:34
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A lot of the problem I had with those Alita pages was due to how weird all the characters' anatomy is, how the panels are composed; if you don't already know those characters pretty well, showing a cropped rendering of a weird robot arm made out of gears gobbling up another weird robot arm made out of chainsaws is going to be puzzling.
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Flesh Forge posted:A lot of the problem I had with those Alita pages was due to how weird all the characters' anatomy is, how the panels are composed; if you don't already know those characters pretty well, showing a cropped rendering of a weird robot arm made out of gears gobbling up another weird robot arm made out of chainsaws is going to be puzzling. I feel that's partially true, but I feel like more than that the Alita panels disregard the 180-degree Rule, so that we the viewer have no reference point to spacial relationships and where anything is. It's a series of very well drawn but disjointed panels of robots getting chewed up.
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Oct 18, 2018 17:01
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oh yes oh god yes form the head FORM THE HEAD unghhhh...
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Endless Mike posted:No, I'm openly stating that it's not blatantly obvious that they're scans or downloaded from FREECOMIX DOT COM or whatever. I mean if you wait you will be waiting either months or years to read something. If it even gets a publisher to translate it at all. Though I also can’t really figure out why you care. It’s such a dumb and petty thing to care about. CharlestheHammer fucked around with this message at 18:26 on Oct 18, 2018 |
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Oct 18, 2018 18:18
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I was going to post my favorite badass panels from One-Punch Man but it would end up being a 30-page sequence because Murata is insane and draws every single blow in detail - and sometimes in spreads - so I'll just leave a recommendation in case someone hasn't heard of it yet.
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Oct 18, 2018 19:20
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Those Juggernaut panels were not only great art, I love that hist story is about how he was whipping Venom's rear end when instead he's getting pounded into the dirt and hit on the head with a broom by an old lady. EDIT: Oh my god he has a doily on his helmet!
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Oct 18, 2018 19:55
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Samuringa posted:I was going to post my favorite badass panels from One-Punch Man but it would end up being a 30-page sequence because Murata is insane and draws every single blow in detail - and sometimes in spreads - so I'll just leave a recommendation in case someone hasn't heard of it yet. Literally why I stopped posting it - you basically have to post an entire chapter to get the full effect of the action. Here's a gif... 
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Oct 18, 2018 23:50
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You could just post clips of the anime, the uninitiated won't be able to tell the difference
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Oct 19, 2018 00:15
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The manga looks better in motion than the anime.
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Oct 19, 2018 00:18
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Mulva posted:The manga looks better in motion than the anime. That's true, the animated version sacrifices a lot of detail that Murata renders. Also,  if you need context to understand this or appreciate it, I pity you
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Oct 19, 2018 00:52
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Is there a rule against manga that people keep ducking under? Because if there isn't, there's no reason to encourage people who throw a shitfit over it.
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Oct 19, 2018 01:05
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I see a bunch of people about to have their day ruined from all that falling glass and brick. loving supers
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Oct 19, 2018 01:08
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Mulva posted:The manga looks better in motion than the anime. 
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Oct 19, 2018 01:09
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Murata is legit one of those once in a lifetime artists, both in sheer artistic talent and also in productivity because the dude never stops working, to the point the writer had to not send him any scripts for a while to make him spend time off with his family
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Oct 19, 2018 01:11
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Unfortunately manga and anime creators working themselves to death isn't uncommon
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SonicRulez posted:Is there a rule against manga that people keep ducking under? Because if there isn't, there's no reason to encourage people who throw a shitfit over it. There isn’t some posters just get really weird about it.
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