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Yorkshire Pudding
Nov 24, 2006



I swear my poo poo is hosed because the only thing I get from Spider door is 6 and 8 secret histories, and I dont have enough items to get to the Peacock door.

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Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead

Yorkshire Pudding posted:

I swear my poo poo is hosed because the only thing I get from Spider door is 6 and 8 secret histories, and I dont have enough items to get to the Peacock door.

You're going Malleary, right?

(although the repeatable 8 is eventually sufficient)

Yorkshire Pudding
Nov 24, 2006



I finally got some, but now I'm at Inastar: Avid and talking to the club lady gives me the Miah expedition I've already been on. Where do I go?

Gridlocked
Aug 2, 2014

MR. STUPID MORON
WITH AN UGLY FACE
AND A BIG BUTT
AND HIS BUTT SMELLS
AND HE LIKES TO KISS
HIS OWN BUTT
by Roger Hargreaves

GreyjoyBastard posted:

If you burn the files as a detective, you're stuck. Or at least were in previous versions.

Although if you're cycling them, maybe you can do something with them?

Ah I also had a bug where the event that takes your obsession and grabs either files targets or your obsession was glichted out. It was on my table with 0.0 seconds and a blank square that didn't take anything. When I clicked into it it went to negative like 600 seconds and didn't disappear. Maybe that was it. Stuck in a loop trying to progress but being bugged out.

Beefeater1980
Sep 12, 2008

My God, it's full of Horatios!






Envious of you guys and your romances. I’m stuck finishing a pre-existing game where I’m ascending in grail with a heart cult. Haven’t seen any of the new stuff yet.

I did enjoy summoning a mirror maid again to murder the Hell out of the accountants tho. That never gets old.

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead

Yorkshire Pudding posted:

I finally got some, but now I'm at Inastar: Avid and talking to the club lady gives me the Miah expedition I've already been on. Where do I go?

You're giving her the wrong thing. You want to go somewhere farther and creepier than even that.

If she hears an Anecdote from there, maybe you'll get what you need.

Yorkshire Pudding
Nov 24, 2006



Yeah I figured out what I need, just thought I could get it from an expedition. But I just did like 8, used all my bronze spitria for repairing wildering mirror, and I have no Frangiclave. So Im probably gonna just restart.

A little disappointed with this update, mostly because they obviously just threw in the Heart ascension path with no unique ascension method.

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead

Yorkshire Pudding posted:

Yeah I figured out what I need, just thought I could get it from an expedition. But I just did like 8, used all my bronze spitria for repairing wildering mirror, and I have no Frangiclave. So Im probably gonna just restart.

A little disappointed with this update, mostly because they obviously just threw in the Heart ascension path with no unique ascension method.

Fyi, not only do commissions generate bronze/silver spintria, but so does dancing.

Commissions are the better lategame choice though.

Gridlocked
Aug 2, 2014

MR. STUPID MORON
WITH AN UGLY FACE
AND A BIG BUTT
AND HIS BUTT SMELLS
AND HE LIKES TO KISS
HIS OWN BUTT
by Roger Hargreaves
Is it just me or does improving your physique not help you get better pay or a promotion in manual Labour. I got mechanical grace or what not and I still only got 1 coin

Demiurge4
Aug 10, 2011

Gridlocked posted:

Is it just me or does improving your physique not help you get better pay or a promotion in manual Labour. I got mechanical grace or what not and I still only got 1 coin

It helps you upgrade your dancing job.

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead

Gridlocked posted:

Is it just me or does improving your physique not help you get better pay or a promotion in manual Labour. I got mechanical grace or what not and I still only got 1 coin

What Demi said and it also speeds up the process by, like, five seconds per upgrade.

Physique is never the correct choice for profitable work though.

Gato
Feb 1, 2012

Working with physique does get you Vitality which turned out to be handy for getting enough for the last tier of Health upgraded.

Gridlocked
Aug 2, 2014

MR. STUPID MORON
WITH AN UGLY FACE
AND A BIG BUTT
AND HIS BUTT SMELLS
AND HE LIKES TO KISS
HIS OWN BUTT
by Roger Hargreaves

GreyjoyBastard posted:

What Demi said and it also speeds up the process by, like, five seconds per upgrade.

Physique is never the correct choice for profitable work though.

I was hoping there'd be a job where you become the hired mussel for someone

KOGAHAZAN!!
Apr 29, 2013

a miserable failure as a person

an incredible success as a magical murder spider

Wait for the Edge ascension update I guess

Malachite_Dragon
Mar 31, 2010

Weaving Merry Christmas magic
Flexing your way into being an Hour

Glazius
Jul 22, 2007

Hail all those who are able,
any mouse can,
any mouse will,
but the Guard prevail.

Clapping Larry

Gridlocked posted:

Is it just me or does improving your physique not help you get better pay or a promotion in manual Labour. I got mechanical grace or what not and I still only got 1 coin

I think it does reduce the chance of you injuring yourself in manual labor, which is also a nice way to get Vitality if your Study is busy.

Caidin
Oct 29, 2011

Glazius posted:

I think it does reduce the chance of you injuring yourself in manual labor, which is also a nice way to get Vitality if your Study is busy.

I think Labor injuries stop happening after the second level of physique though? The only benefit after that is another 5 seconds off your work day.
Mind I dunno if specalizing in strength has any effect on manual labor.

So can you personally murder investigators now?

KOGAHAZAN!!
Apr 29, 2013

a miserable failure as a person

an incredible success as a magical murder spider

Caidin posted:

So can you personally murder investigators now?

Apparently!



(I grabbed this from the Cultist Simulator discord, which is the horniest discord, Jesus. I now understand why Kennedy thinks everyone wants to gently caress Eveem.)

Glagha
Oct 13, 2008

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Can you seduce investigators and turn them into allies? If not why not?

Dr Kool-AIDS
Mar 26, 2004

On the live stream Alexis just talked about advanced and grand victories. Advanced is new game+ with the Apostle Legacy where you start with the remnant of your cult and a rival, and the end goal is something like the fusion of spirit and flesh or the great machine. Then grand victory is going to be building on that with a third layer in which you work to become a Name. He also briefly discussed a fourth layer in which you play as a Name, but said he wasn't confirming it because he didn't want to get too ambitious.

KOGAHAZAN!!
Apr 29, 2013

a miserable failure as a person

an incredible success as a magical murder spider

I have no idea what playing as a Name would even look like.

Every so often you get a Season of Dorks and have to spend the next three hours tearing up floorboards in Kerisham.

Long gameplay, obviously, is a gonzo pirate adventure game set in the Evening Isles. Monkey's Paw Island.

Dr Kool-AIDS
Mar 26, 2004

He also said there won't be a separate advanced track for dancers, so it looks like the game's going to be building vertically, and is going to be building horizontally, but not diagonally, which is probably for the best if we want the game to ever be anything close to "complete."

Yorkshire Pudding
Nov 24, 2006



I swear they changed rewards from dreaming in the Ways. The old gmail document I used when the game came out says you can get Port Noon Anecdotes from areas inside the Peacock door, but I played for hours last night and was only getting Vagabond Maps. I was also regularly getting whatever the level 8 Secret History's are called from the Mallery and Chamber of Ways.

KOGAHAZAN!!
Apr 29, 2013

a miserable failure as a person

an incredible success as a magical murder spider

That was inaccurate on release, but the document dates to the beta I think.

If you want Port Noon Anecdotes you have to combine history lores. Probably from two or three levels down, because God knows grinding the Spider and Peacock doors is a living nightmare.

dead gay comedy forums
Oct 21, 2011


you guys who played it before: is it less annoying now or should I just update the modded files re: timings etc?

Demiurge4
Aug 10, 2011

loving uuurgh. 5 hours into this run and I get classically sniped by fascination as my board is loving full of everything and I don't notice it's there while I have a despair token eating up my dread.

I was on the last form for heart ascension too, so burnt out on this game now.

Turin Turambar
Jun 5, 2011



Sinteres posted:

On the live stream Alexis just talked about advanced and grand victories. Advanced is new game+ with the Apostle Legacy where you start with the remnant of your cult and a rival, and the end goal is something like the fusion of spirit and flesh or the great machine. Then grand victory is going to be building on that with a third layer in which you work to become a Name. He also briefly discussed a fourth layer in which you play as a Name, but said he wasn't confirming it because he didn't want to get too ambitious.

The last part sounds cool as hell... but imo it should be reserved for Cultist Simulator 2.

Gato
Feb 1, 2012

Finally got the Heart ascension. In the end I had to gamble with Augury to get the necessary Heart influence, which was a bit dull, but the whole process was much more interesting overall than the previous Ascensions. It's a shame you have to go out of your way to get a Rival though.

Ithle01
May 28, 2013
Is there any new stuff to starting as the Dancer rather than just going into it as the Aspirant? Because I started a new game and that's what I've been doing, holy poo poo scars are a pain in the rear end though, I'm down to 2 passions because of that and I can't go higher. I'm trying to do a moth ascension is the end game still endlessly grinding the stag door histories? I'm at that point where I think I need to go to the 5th tier locations, but oops I can't get any of the tools to enter the Peacock door. At least dancing is a good source of cash, I stopped thinking about funds a long time ago and my money has only increased over time. Also, Skintwisters cults are awesome.

Gato
Feb 1, 2012

Ithle01 posted:

Is there any new stuff to starting as the Dancer rather than just going into it as the Aspirant? Because I started a new game and that's what I've been doing, holy poo poo scars are a pain in the rear end though, I'm down to 2 passions because of that and I can't go higher. I'm trying to do a moth ascension is the end game still endlessly grinding the stag door histories? I'm at that point where I think I need to go to the 5th tier locations, but oops I can't get any of the tools to enter the Peacock door. At least dancing is a good source of cash, I stopped thinking about funds a long time ago and my money has only increased over time. Also, Skintwisters cults are awesome.

Starting as a Dancer gets you access to the Gaiety theatre and Patrons which I don't think you can get with Aspirant?

And yeah (Ascension spoilers) you'll need at least one Vagabond's Map and one Port Noon Anecdote to get the final dance forms so you'll still need to get past the Peacock Door. On the other hand grinding Prisoners for the Spider Door is a lot less risky with the changes to follower wounds/death so that might be a better source of expeditions.

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead
There's a beta patch that makes more varied influences more readily available now, apparently.

Also in:

- Final Dancer job upgrade now requires Grace specialisation for Health skill.

Goatse James Bond fucked around with this message at 21:06 on Oct 18, 2018

Ithle01
May 28, 2013

Gato posted:

Starting as a Dancer gets you access to the Gaiety theatre and Patrons which I don't think you can get with Aspirant?

And yeah (Ascension spoilers) you'll need at least one Vagabond's Map and one Port Noon Anecdote to get the final dance forms so you'll still need to get past the Peacock Door. On the other hand grinding Prisoners for the Spider Door is a lot less risky with the changes to follower wounds/death so that might be a better source of expeditions.

I assumed that was the case because the dance lady told me that I needed something a little further South, so I think that meant I need to one tier higher. Or not. I'll figure it out eventually. Right now I'm just grinding Stag Door bullshit and then doing the combinations that take like four minutes each with a high degree of failure. I love a lot of things about this game, but the end game grind is not one of those things.

I guess next game I'll try to start as Dancer and do the Heart ascension pathway instead of Moth. (really wish I went with Heart in this one because I pulled a 12 Heart influence tool from a tier 4 location)

Spider Door isn't to my taste even though I'm a Skintwister cult, for some dumb reason I just have an aversion to anything that could end my game even though it's almost completely trivial for me to dispose of evidence from notoriety, maybe I'll eventually get over it and go out and start murdering thugs and bombmakers.

Ithle01 fucked around with this message at 22:00 on Oct 18, 2018

ZypherIM
Nov 8, 2010

"I want to see what she's in love with."

So not much has been updated on information sites since the patch. I'm not doing an exhaustive testing/digging, but I'll post some of my findings as I run into them.

Final health skill upgrade:

Using grail gets you the new skill: a Flawless Physique.

"Machine perfection. Sinew-bound ivory, tight in satin skin. 'From here, I can only deteriorate.' [Health and Skill can increase no further]"

45 seconds for working with health, still 1 coin.


Based on the screenshot someone posted earlier, there are multiple options, and maybe they're usable in different situations?

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead

ZypherIM posted:

So not much has been updated on information sites since the patch. I'm not doing an exhaustive testing/digging, but I'll post some of my findings as I run into them.

Final health skill upgrade:

Using grail gets you the new skill: a Flawless Physique.

"Machine perfection. Sinew-bound ivory, tight in satin skin. 'From here, I can only deteriorate.' [Health and Skill can increase no further]"

45 seconds for working with health, still 1 coin.


Based on the screenshot someone posted earlier, there are multiple options, and maybe they're usable in different situations?

There are two different ones for each stat, right now there doesn't appear to be any non-flavor difference but in the future you're going to need the Grace one for dancing.

ZypherIM
Nov 8, 2010

"I want to see what she's in love with."

I think I'd love to have a stack option of "pile", where everything of a card just gets dumped into an area with a counter in the bottom right of the area. So I could dump all my mystique into one little pile (even if its like a 2x2 card space) instead of having them take up a bunch of space and time shuffling them out of the way of cards I care about.

Promethium
Dec 31, 2009
Dinosaur Gum
Read the final skill upgrade text carefully since it is also possible to screw yourself by using a card that goes into the slot but isn't a valid upgrade path for the skill, then you lose all of your Lessons for nothing.

Not sure if they changed anything but since the update I seem to be getting way more of the 60-second moods that give you a free Vitality/Glimmering/Erudition so it's been trivial to fully upgrade skills before ever founding a cult or exploring the Mansus. I guess that would still be the case without the moods if you buy some skill books, you only need three of each (one for the 3rd step and two for the 4th step).

ZypherIM
Nov 8, 2010

"I want to see what she's in love with."

Promethium posted:

Read the final skill upgrade text carefully since it is also possible to screw yourself by using a card that goes into the slot but isn't a valid upgrade path for the skill, then you lose all of your Lessons for nothing.

Not sure if they changed anything but since the update I seem to be getting way more of the 60-second moods that give you a free Vitality/Glimmering/Erudition so it's been trivial to fully upgrade skills before ever founding a cult or exploring the Mansus. I guess that would still be the case without the moods if you buy some skill books, you only need three of each (one for the 3rd step and two for the 4th step).

Yea, the key I found is that if the text says it'll upgrade your lore, that is a dirty lie and it just eats the lessons. I'm assuming that something was partially implemented or maybe planned and didn't get in.

In terms of upgrading skills, with the change to the ability cards getting aspects you're able to easily upgrade your skills if you're fairly logical about it. If you need to juggle time you can always paint the base card or the lesson, so you can hit the timers to get 4 lessons pretty easily. Previously for health I'd need to roll some vitality cards from the woods, now between lessons and event cards I didn't really need to try. Passion was the only annoying skill to max, because sometimes you wouldn't roll any glimmerings, but being able to stall out lesson cards meant I didn't even need any books, but at most you'd only need them for the last stage.

Tip for upgrading reason is that turning in a commission for a patron rewards you with erudition, which I've also found really useful when upgrading lore.

Cards being worth 1 aspect lets you hit a nice upgrade point with a level 6 lore, since to upgrade to disciples you need 7 lore. I don't recall this being the case before but I've gotten a couple 6 point lore books out of the shops since the patch.

dead gay comedy forums
Oct 21, 2011


ZypherIM posted:

I think I'd love to have a stack option of "pile", where everything of a card just gets dumped into an area with a counter in the bottom right of the area. So I could dump all my mystique into one little pile (even if its like a 2x2 card space) instead of having them take up a bunch of space and time shuffling them out of the way of cards I care about.

holy poo poo this wasn't addressed yet?

Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007

Cards need full physics, now!

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NewMars
Mar 10, 2013
I have a simple way to upgrade the UI for this game: get rid of all of it and do something completely different.

Alexis Kennedy is a very good writer and worldbuilder but I swear he actually must have some contempt for the idea of a game that people can actually play.

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