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Raldikuk posted:I have had the same issue with my laptop. When I first got it (with Win10 preinstalled) the battery drained overnight even while using shut down but disabling fast boot seemed to solve the issue (even though there's no reason it should). Fast forward to an update a few months ago (not sure which actual update did it) and the problem reappeared and fast boot had reenabled itself. I got it disabled but the problem persisted. Power management is a very hard computer science problem 
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I only had a little bit of time to see the results of disabling hibernation and fast boot, but it seems to have solved the "power off" issue, and the USB HDD appears to behave as expected, and the up-time counter appears to have reset. I haven't yet booted up one of the affected laptops to see how the battery is faring this time. (Need to wait a number of days anyway.)Raldikuk posted:I have had the same issue with my laptop. When I first got it (with Win10 preinstalled) the battery drained overnight even while using shut down but disabling fast boot seemed to solve the issue (even though there's no reason it should). Fast forward to an update a few months ago (not sure which actual update did it) and the problem reappeared and fast boot had reenabled itself. I got it disabled but the problem persisted. In my research I did read that Fast Boot is often re-enabled after some updates, probably one of the major ones. As long as I'm expecting that I can deal with it and re-disable Fast Boot, however. As above, I'm not yet certain this is going to address the battery drain issues on any of my devices.
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Oct 19, 2018 08:48
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Disable hibernation is more of a save space on your tiny ssd thing, or an I won't use it ever thing. Having it on shouldn't interfere with fast boot being disabled, and hibernating the computer shouldn't lose you any battery as the computer is actually off. It's just the hybrid sleep thing that Windows does when you power off with fast boot on that's unintuitive to some. That's: shouldn't. But anyway, I find hibernation to be behaving nicely and useful on laptops with ssds.
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Oct 19, 2018 10:02
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Fast Boot apparently uses hibernation, and so I disabled both to be on the same side, plus I literally never use it.
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Oct 19, 2018 10:51
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You might not intentionally use hibernation, but by default Windows will hibernate after sleeping for a while (assuming Fast Boot or Connected Standby or something isn't preventing it). Good to have in case you put it to sleep but end up going unplugged for longer than expected.
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Oct 19, 2018 11:18
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I would reckon that your bios sucks as much as I would like to blame it on win10. Some systems implement state S4 to be a sort of "super" suspend instead of actually hibernating. It will still copy memory to disk and idle the processor but leaves a bunch of garbage powered. To counteract this, win10 will try to explicitly power down peripherals when hibernating for fast boot (iirc). This is probably part of the issue.
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I've recently been having issues with my desktop taking 2-3 minutes to boot (on SSD), spending most of that time on the Win10 logo before the spiral animation appears. It seems to be related to IME drivers, but I can't test other drivers, etc. because Win 10 aggressively changes it back before I can complete the process. Anyone deal with this or have any suggestions? The PC is a 5th gen i7, z97 chipset. Fast boot on/off didn't make a difference.
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Oct 19, 2018 18:38
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AgentCow007 posted:I've recently been having issues with my desktop taking 2-3 minutes to boot (on SSD), spending most of that time on the Win10 logo before the spiral animation appears. It seems to be related to IME drivers, but I can't test other drivers, etc. because Win 10 aggressively changes it back before I can complete the process. Anyone deal with this or have any suggestions? The PC is a 5th gen i7, z97 chipset. Fast boot on/off didn't make a difference. have you disabled drivers from windows update to prevent the re-install? after that you should be able to uninstall the driver / install other versions and not have it pop back.
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Oct 19, 2018 19:36
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Are any of you guys experts with OneDrive? I have a paid subscription for 1tb with the whole office 365 thing. I'm tempted to actually use it and sync my documents folder, but as an old man I keep getting this feeling that uploading all my poo poo to the internet (including financial docs, etc) is just a bad idea. Is it safe? My documents folder is a huge mess too, I think 36gb total, so it would be nice to have it all backed up. Will syncing my documents somehow get them all deleted randomly? I tried syncing up one folder using the mklink function but it doesn't seem to be working too well, so I was thinking about using their actual built-in functionality.
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Oct 19, 2018 19:47
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OneDrive provides a "recycle bin" functionality on the web that handles reverting any accidental deletions. For concerns during the initial backup to OneDrive, just temporarily make a copy of your whole documents folder to somewhere else on your local storage, though you shouldn't lose anything in the initial sync.
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Oct 19, 2018 19:53
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Delthalaz posted:Will syncing my documents somehow get them all deleted randomly? Normally everyone would say "no, don't be silly" but in light of the recent issue where Windows 10 update was deleting library folders for people who'd changed their locations (which is also something an older version of OneDrive did when you enabled document sync on it), I'd say make sure you keep an offline backup just in case.
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Oct 19, 2018 19:56
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Ugh, I was hoping to use this stupid thing for backup.
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Oct 19, 2018 20:00
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Regarding the safety of keeping your documents (including financials etc.) In the cloud, you are fairly safe if only because the cloud providers are also providing their services to enterprise customers who demand security and it would cost more money to have separate tiers of security. There's still the possibility of a breach but you're probably at greater risk of identify theft from other sources. If you're particularly concerned you can always apply your own encryption to important data before it goes into the cloud though it's clunky for actually using the documents. As far as using OneDrive goes I don't have any particular advice, when I started using it I just copied files into the folder and never tried bulk syncing. 
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Oct 19, 2018 20:06
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Delthalaz posted:Are any of you guys experts with OneDrive? I have a paid subscription for 1tb with the whole office 365 thing. I'm tempted to actually use it and sync my documents folder, but as an old man I keep getting this feeling that uploading all my poo poo to the internet (including financial docs, etc) is just a bad idea. Is it safe? Delthalaz posted:Ugh, I was hoping to use this stupid thing for backup. You can definitely use it as backup, but use the guiding principle of, "the more important something is, the more copies you should keep." So if you've got something unimportant (say, random cat photos from the Web) then you don't need to back them up. Downloaded audio/video/games that would be kind of a pain to re-acquire? Two copies. Important financial documents? Perhaps three copies. Irreplaceable family photos? You get the idea. I'd be a little apprehensive about uploading sensitive financial documents, but like isndl wrote you can just encrypt them for peace of mind.
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Oct 19, 2018 22:35
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Thanks for the tips. Any advice about how to encrypt stuff for the cloud? i was looking at cryptomator. whatever is the least intrusive would be the best
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Oct 20, 2018 02:20
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Delthalaz posted:Thanks for the tips. Any advice about how to encrypt stuff for the cloud? i was looking at cryptomator. whatever is the least intrusive would be the best I use Cryptomator and it works well. Edit: if you don’t need to view the files you’ve stored (as in, the files are purely backups), Rclone also does syncing and encryption.
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bobfather posted:I use Cryptomator and it works well. I'll check it out. Yeah, I want to be able to view the files too. I bought a cheap little windows netbook for work while traveling and I'm trying to figure out ways of accessing my documents in a secure way while I'm away from my main computer. Actually, speaking of which, I have another question. Right now I use something like three to four gmail accounts, a yahoo mail account (oh and a proton mail account). Like an inefficient bastard, I just keep them open in pinned tabs in my web browser and click on them one by one when I want to check my email. This has to be a really rear end-backwards way of handling things... and keeping all those tabs open uses up like 85% of my little netbook's memory. Is there a simple, lightweight email client for keeping track of a bunch of gmails? Or maybe a chrome extension that could handle this better? I messed around with outlook in my netbook and one of my less important gmail accounts and google got pissed off, considered it an "insecure app." I was able to get it to IMAP my email by enabling "insecure app access" to my account but I was wondering if you could could recommend something better.
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Delthalaz posted:I'll check it out. Yeah, I want to be able to view the files too. I bought a cheap little windows netbook for work while traveling and I'm trying to figure out ways of accessing my documents in a secure way while I'm away from my main computer. I use this on Firefox, but it's also on Chrome these days: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/x-notifier-neo/pheccebhjjlenlidbnddkjgpgfhokmio It has built in support for logging into and then checking Gmail, Yahoo, Hotmail/Live/Outlook, and AOL email accounts. As for Protonmail, you can probably make it work using the script functionality so that it understands how to parse the webmail client: http://xnotifier.tobwithu.com/dp/node/7 But for sites you can't make it work with webmail, it lets you instead check for new mail via the IMAP settings protonmail has: http://xnotifier.tobwithu.com/dp/node/6 Once you have the extension in, you set the time you want it to wait between checking each page (I use every 2 minutes for my main accounts every 15 minutes for the old Yahoo account I barely use) and it'll show an icon with a number when there's new mail, and optionally play a sound for notification. It's quite a bit more efficient than keeping a bunch of tabs open for sure.
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When you're juggling that many mail accounts I would say you're at the point where a dedicated mail client like Thunderbird or eM Client is preferred to browser extensions, but I have no idea how well they would run on a netbook. Unless something has changed recently they should be able to support OAuth so you don't get the insecure client warnings from Google though. If you're scrambling for memory you shouldn't be using Chrome anyways, it's notorious for being a memory hog.
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Delthalaz posted:Actually, speaking of which, I have another question. Right now I use something like three to four gmail accounts, a yahoo mail account (oh and a proton mail account). Like an inefficient bastard, I just keep them open in pinned tabs in my web browser and click on them one by one when I want to check my email. This has to be a really rear end-backwards way of handling things... and keeping all those tabs open uses up like 85% of my little netbook's memory. Is there a simple, lightweight email client for keeping track of a bunch of gmails? Or maybe a chrome extension that could handle this better?
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Delthalaz posted:Actually, speaking of which, I have another question. Right now I use something like three to four gmail accounts, a yahoo mail account (oh and a proton mail account). Like an inefficient bastard, I just keep them open in pinned tabs in my web browser and click on them one by one when I want to check my email. This has to be a really rear end-backwards way of handling things... and keeping all those tabs open uses up like 85% of my little netbook's memory. Is there a simple, lightweight email client for keeping track of a bunch of gmails? Or maybe a chrome extension that could handle this better? I messed around with outlook in my netbook and one of my less important gmail accounts and google got pissed off, considered it an "insecure app." I was able to get it to IMAP my email by enabling "insecure app access" to my account but I was wondering if you could could recommend something better. If they are all personal e-mails, you could always forward them all to one e-mail address. Optionally set up different folders/tags/whatever for each.
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isndl posted:When you're juggling that many mail accounts I would say you're at the point where a dedicated mail client like Thunderbird or eM Client is preferred to browser extensions, but I have no idea how well they would run on a netbook. Unless something has changed recently they should be able to support OAuth so you don't get the insecure client warnings from Google though. Hmm.. what’s a chrome alternative that’s light on memory? IIRC Firefox is even worse in that regard and I like the extensions on Chrome.
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Delthalaz posted:Hmm.. what’s a chrome alternative that’s light on memory? IIRC Firefox is even worse in that regard and I like the extensions on Chrome. Brave Browser which is based on chrome isn't bad. I dunno if it is lighter on memory though.
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Delthalaz posted:Hmm.. what’s a chrome alternative that’s light on memory? IIRC Firefox is even worse in that regard and I like the extensions on Chrome. I hate to suggest this, but.... Edge? Which I hear isn't execrable?
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Delthalaz posted:Hmm.. what’s a chrome alternative that’s light on memory? IIRC Firefox is even worse in that regard and I like the extensions on Chrome. I don't know when the last time you used Firefox was but it's generally pretty well behaved ever since the big Quantum update. Nuked a lot of old extensions at the same time, though anything you are able to use an extension for in Chrome should still be possible with the new Firefox.
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SwissArmyDruid posted:I hate to suggest this, but.... Edge? Which I hear isn't execrable? Edge is really pretty ok right now. I wish I wasn't so attached to google services like Hangouts.
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Looked at it out of interest - website didn't load at all with NoScript enabled. Brave that is.
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Oct 20, 2018 15:46
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Dead Goon posted:Looked at it out of interest - website didn't load at all with NoScript enabled. Is that good or bad? (lol).
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Syncing solutions like OneDrive, DropBox, etc. are not backup solutions. It's nice that MS provides that recycle bin thingy, but I still wouldn't trust a sync solution to backup critical data. Syncing can get hosed up with conflicts and weirdness, and like someone said with MS's recent troubles wiping your documents on upgrade, I'd use an offsite/cloud backup service for important stuff.
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I feel like any weirdness with Windows Updates wiping files is pretty well mitigated by keeping your OneDrive and My Documents cleanly separated, just like how you can avoid a lot of weirdness with programs by installing them to a different folder than Program Files. poo poo can still happen but it's harder to break stuff accidentally when they're not in the default directory. If it's something absolutely critical then you should always keep an offline backup of course, cloud storage is primarily a convenience for when you're on the go or moving between devices. Can't accidentally delete a file that isn't accessible thanks to being disconnected.
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Dead Goon posted:Looked at it out of interest - website didn't load at all with NoScript enabled.
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Brave is a silly browser. It's meant to be an engine for the weird gay-hating former Mozilla guy to start his own ad service. Just use chrome itself if you like how it performs, it's nothing more than a chromium wrapper at heart.
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fishmech posted:It's meant to be an engine for the weird gay-hating former Mozilla guy to start his own ad service.
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Since upgrading from 1803 to 1809 (prior to the update being pulled,) I keep getting a strange Hyper-V error. Never saw it in 1803. What I'll do is create a new Windows 10 VM, eject the ISO, update it, shut it down. When I go to power it back up, Hyper-V throws a SCSI controller error and refuses to boot the VM. Anyone else see something similar? I haven't found a workaround yet aside from deleting the VM and starting over from scratch. Like I said, I had never seen this problem in 1803. I'm beginning to wonder if I should just format/reinstall 1803 at this point. Did I mention the problem is reoccurring?
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Oct 20, 2018 21:41
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You can revert to 1803 unless you did a disk cleanup and deleted the windows.old directory.
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GreenNight posted:You can revert to 1803 unless you did a disk cleanup and deleted the windows.old directory. I did exactly that 
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Yeah so did I. 1809 is quite the clusterfuck but I haven't experienced any of the issues others have.
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Are they putting it back out again? I haven't seen it available on any of my computers so far.
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It hasn't been re-released yet.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows10/comments/9phh1v/ever_since_the_october_update_the_overwrite/ So, the File Copy dialog is broken for archived files. It no longer prompts if there’s a file conflict. What does it do? Nobody knows. Seriously, it seems to select an action at random. And if you’re moving files out of the archive, one of those options is apparently to not copy it, but delete it from the archive anyway. 
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