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univbee posted:I had the wrong numbers for XB1, admittedly (I had ~300 and thought that was current), although for PS1 classics my number is accurate, as that's the number on Japanese PSN which has long been considered the gold standard for how a previously physical-only console should resell its games digitally (they even gave away like 600 of these across like 3 months of PS+ over there). Japanese PS2 downloadables on PS3 fare a tiny bit better at 118, which is still a lame offering especially in Japan where it's still a required console if you're doing Beatmania or Dance Dance Revolution as well as for shmups. Yeah I won't disagree with those numbers but I reserve the right to say that's lame to use Japanese numbers while USA and European numbers are tiny (European only has 147 ps1 games) and that would be the games that 90% of the English speaking audience would care about/have access to, while pretty much all of those 533 Xbox numbers are for all regions. The real kicker will be to see if ps5 even carries over the ps4 library while Microsoft already has gone on record to say all Xbox games currently playable on Xbox one will continue to work in the future. I'd still have a Playstation for exclusives but it'd be hard to consider buying third party games on Playstation if I don't even have the confidence that I could have access to it on the next console. Edit: and just so you can understand, I mostly said I was impressed with xboxs backwards compatibility because of things like running older games but actually better or even in an insane resolution like 4k. I'm not as impressed by hardware bc like the ps2 inside a ps3 because yeah if you put in the hardware of a ps2 inside a ps3, then I expect to be able to play ps2 games. Same idea for gamecube/wii and wii/wiiu. I don't expect to be impressed or surprised by that. Ineffiable fucked around with this message at 19:04 on Oct 19, 2018 |
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Oct 19, 2018 19:01
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TheScott2K posted:I'd be real surprised if there was a "clean break" from PS4 to PS5. Id be surprised too but console manufacturers have done dumb loving things when they felt confident.
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Barudak posted:Id be surprised too but console manufacturers have done dumb loving things when they felt confident. God knows Sony went a little bonkers after the PS2.
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TheScott2K posted:God knows Sony went a little bonkers after the PS2. It still blows my mind Microsoft looked at the guy who was involved in the completely hosed launch of the PS3 and went, yeah thats the guy to launch our next console.
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Barudak posted:It still blows my mind Microsoft looked at the guy who was involved in the completely hosed launch of the PS3 and went, yeah thats the guy to launch our next console. [Galacy Brain] Microsoft leaned into the Third Console Curse
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I spent about 3 hours last night replaying BLACK (an OG XBOX game) on my 4k OLED tv and it was fun and I liked it. BC is cool and good.
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univbee posted:Xbox definitely has the best backwards compatible offering this gen, but it's definitely not as good as most of the older consoles from the last 20 years. Game consoles released in past 20 years with backwards compatibility to any system: PS2, PS3, 360, Wii, Wii U, Xbone, GBA, DS, 3DS, Neo Geo Pocket Color, Vita, WonderSwan Color, Game Boy Color Those without: Dreamcast, Xbox, Gamecube, Switch, PS4, PSP, NGage, Zodiac, Neo Geo Pocket, WonderSwan Out of those with any backwards compatibility, most PS3s lack a significant amount of the original model's BC. The Vita stuff is a limited selection of PSP titles. The WonderSwan Color and Neo Geo Pocket Color were both cases where the color version came out about a year after the monochrome system which feels like something of a stretch to count compared to like, how a PS2 played games that were already 6 years old when it was new, or how the GBC played 9 year old titles. And of course the 360's emulation was much more limited than the Xbone and the Wii U blocked backwards compatibility with GameCube stuff for the regular consumer even though it is capable of it which is a total dick move from nintendo. I also don't count PSP as doing backwards compatibility because it doesn't even support the whole PS1 control scheme, and you always had to rebuy the games to play them on there officially. (Also if we were to extend this back to consoles that were being sold 20 years ago you have the N64, Saturn, PS1, Game Boy at least as consoles without and Game Gear as an additional system with)
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fishmech posted:[...] and the Wii U blocked backwards compatibility with GameCube stuff for the regular consumer even though it is capable of it which is a total dick move from nintendo. Nintendo gonna nintend
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American McGay posted:I spent about 3 hours last night replaying BLACK (an OG XBOX game) on my 4k OLED tv and it was fun and I liked it. BC is cool and good. Congrats youre almost done! Seriously its a super short game which is good because the end sucks.
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Fair, when I said "last 20 years" I was only looking at launch dates, so I didn't count N64, Saturn, or PS1 (and also didn't really focus attention on any manufacturer's first console). Also I know the Game Gear hardware is more or less a Sega Master System but were the games carts actually cross-compatible in any officially-sanctioned way, or even a way that was common when the system was current?
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univbee posted:Fair, when I said "last 20 years" I was only looking at launch dates, so I didn't count N64, Saturn, or PS1 (and also didn't really focus attention on any manufacturer's first console). I think there was an adapter
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univbee posted:Fair, when I said "last 20 years" I was only looking at launch dates, so I didn't count N64, Saturn, or PS1 (and also didn't really focus attention on any manufacturer's first console). Lmao, bee its loving sega! you know theres a booster cart for that poo poo.
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Real hurthling! posted:Lmao, bee its loving sega! you know theres a booster cart for that poo poo. I looked and yup, there is! 
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The Game Gear was the smartphone of its time only instead of apps it was things you'd attach to it. That TV tuner was boss as hell.
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Theres always something to plug into your sega never forget
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Real hurthling! posted:Theres always something to plug into your sega never forget 
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I remain haunted by how badly designed the Panasonic Gamecube was. That might be the worst franken console Ive ever seen
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Panasonic is actually just the name of the manufacturer, the console was Panasonic's Gamecube.
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Barudak posted:I remain haunted by how badly designed the Panasonic Gamecube was. That might be the worst franken console Ive ever seen I just looked this thing up. Pretty neat.
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We all make fun of the dreamcast for having the wire come out of the wrong end of the controller but the initial version of the Panasonic has the controller plug into the back of the console.
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Barudak posted:We all make fun of the dreamcast for having the wire come out of the wrong end of the controller but the initial version of the Panasonic has the controller plug into the back of the console. Wavebirds don't need cables. 
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fishmech posted:Wavebirds don't need cables. The wavebird launched after the Q launched
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Barudak posted:We all make fun of the dreamcast for having the wire come out of the wrong end of the controller but the initial version of the Panasonic has the controller plug into the back of the console. Plugging controllers in the back is sheer madness. 
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Barudak posted:It still blows my mind Microsoft looked at the guy who was involved in the completely hosed launch of the PS3 and went, yeah thats the guy to launch our next console. Wait, who was that?
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univbee posted:Xbox definitely has the best backwards compatible offering this gen, but it's definitely not as good as most of the older consoles from the last 20 years. I'd say the only reason that it's not as good as the older consoles is the fact that it's not put in and play. The possible improvements allowed I'd say are definitely worth mentioning.
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Barudak posted:It still blows my mind Microsoft looked at the guy who was involved in the completely hosed launch of the PS3 and went, yeah thats the guy to launch our next console. Microsoft also hired the guy who ruined the Def Jam games to help with the Kinect so this seems par for the course.
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Finster Dexter posted:Wait, who was that? Mattrick
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Real hurthling! posted:Mattrick oic, I didn't know he worked for Sony. I thought he erupted fully formed from the earth itself.
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Don Mattrick worked for EA, not Sony.
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Phil Harrison was the guy who worked on the PS3 and XB1 launches.
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Any other 'boners get Blackout? Xbox stays winning doesn't seem to apply to the COD thread, everyone there has a PS4.
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TheScott2K posted:What's the licensing situation around BattleTech right now? I think Microsoft owned FASA at the time but now doesn't? Ok so here is to the best of my knowledge the who owns what in the BattleTech IP, some things may be wrong because it is super confusing: Topps owns the whole BattleTech IP, they bought it when WizKids went under, who themselves bought it when FASA was in money trouble. The BattleTech board game is currently licensed to Catalyst Games Lab. The BattleTech novels are also published through them. Microsoft purchased FASA Interactive in the late 90's giving them the right to the video game MechWarrior IP in perpetuity. This includes any spin offs related to the MechWarrior franchise but does not include anything BattleTech related. Microsoft closed FASA Studios in 2012, canceling the in development Crimson Skies sequel. The MechWarrior IP is currently licensed to Piranha Games Interactive(you know the guys who worked on Duke Nukem Forever), their current product is MechWarrior: Online (2012- ), with MechWarrior 5 Mercenaries due to be released in 2019. The rights lapse back to Microsoft in either 2020 or 2021. A MechWarrior TV show was announced last year but shut down by Topps who apparently have control over everything not video game related to the BattleTech IP. BattleTech fucked around with this message at 18:55 on Oct 20, 2018 |
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Raskolnikov2089 posted:Any other 'boners get Blackout? Xbox stays winning doesn't seem to apply to the COD thread, everyone there has a PS4. More than a few of us have it, and I have a feeling it will catch on with the regular crew once it goes for a discount. They’re all wrapped up in PUBG still (have been playing nothing else for 10 months). Still, Ranch has it, I have it, and a bunch of newer guys that you won’t know but will like have it.
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BattleTech posted:Ok so here is to the best of my knowledge the who owns what in the BattleTech IP, some things may be wrong because it is super confusing: Name post combo
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Real hurthling! posted:Name post combo Name post gamertag combo:  I really need a new MechAssault. I need it in my bones.
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Real hurthling! posted:You like mecha stuff or just western mech Mostly western, I've tried a bunch a times to get into stuff like Armored Core and just can't do it. A big thing with me is physicality and feel, which a lot of mecha things don't have that sense of presence. Vox Machinae is currently on my to play list but I want to get a VR headset before I play it. BattleTech fucked around with this message at 19:51 on Oct 20, 2018 |
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