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At first, that Hyde trade is baffling, but shockingly, the Browns had lots of talent in the backfield. Looking forward to more Duke/Chubb.
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Henrik Zetterberg posted:At first, that Hyde trade is baffling, but shockingly, the Browns had lots of talent in the backfield. Looking forward to more Duke/Chubb. Dorsey probably forcing Haley to loving use Chubb since his ypc is absurd and he gets maybe 3 touches a game. For gods sake he has 3 40+ yard TD runs.
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^^--Fire Haley too if it's him I guess. You want more playing time for Chubb? Well put him in the loving game (and fire Hue) you morons. Henrik Zetterberg posted:At first, that Hyde trade is baffling, but shockingly, the Browns had lots of talent in the backfield. Looking forward to more Duke/Chubb. I seriously loved that backfield. It gets worse without Hyde but it's still really damned good.
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I assume that they saw an opportunity to fleece Jacksonville because they're desperate for RBs, but we'll have to see the particulars of the deal first. As someone mentioned Hyde carries a pretty sizable contract so maybe that's what this trade was about. I've been totally baffled at why Hyde was getting so many carries and Chubb so few, and wondering when that was finally going to change. Certainly didn't expect it to be this dramatic, I thought they'd just switch the touch count around or easy Chubb into it. Turns out they're going all in on Chubb, I'm pretty okay with that. His production so far won't be matched of course, but I do think he has more of the physical tools you want than Hyde does.
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Play posted:His production so far won't be matched of course, but I do think he has more of the physical tools you want than Hyde does. I mean it's hard other than like, young Adrian Peterson or possibly Todd Gurley (or various all time greats obviously) to have more tools than Chubb has. I'll buy into the idea that he has no idea what he's doing in pass protection, but man they just never played a ridiculous talent up until now. e: I'm apparently a lot higher on Chubb than scouts were after looking pre-draft stuff up.
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Grittybeard posted:I mean it's hard other than like, young Adrian Peterson or possibly Todd Gurley (or various all time greats obviously) to have more tools than Chubb has. I'll buy into the idea that he has no idea what he's doing in pass protection, but man they just never played a ridiculous talent up until now. He's like every other rookie in pass protection.
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Hizawk posted:Ameer Abdullah silently weeps every night, he'd be an instant starter on like 5 teams right now. Well, good news for him: https://twitter.com/ttwentyman/status/1053375781131427840 With Agnew on IR and Riddick out this game, this may be the first time we'll get to see Ameer get real playing time this season. I hope he's able to make the most of it-dude deserves far better than what he's gotten from this team.
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Hizawk posted:Ameer Abdullah silently weeps every night, he'd be an instant starter on like 5 teams right now. I'm still convinced hes a stud based on his college career and just needs a place to shine
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Grittybeard posted:I mean it's hard other than like, young Adrian Peterson or possibly Todd Gurley (or various all time greats obviously) to have more tools than Chubb has. I'll buy into the idea that he has no idea what he's doing in pass protection, but man they just never played a ridiculous talent up until now. What I meant by "his production won't be matched" is that his 13+ yards per carry and absurd yards after contact would slow down a lot when he's being used regularly. His two awesome touchdown runs (out of three runs total that day) shot his averages up to the moon. I love him though. A little bowling ball of a man who is much quicker and has a much better cut than you would expect. Very good after contact and good vision. I thought Michel was the more agile of the two Georgia backs but actually he has looked stiff where Chubb looks lively. He's probably never going to be super great at pass protection, but most backs never are anyways.
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Play posted:What I meant by "his production won't be matched" is that his 13+ yards per carry and absurd yards after contact would slow down a lot when he's being used regularly. His two awesome touchdown runs (out of three runs total that day) shot his averages up to the moon. I love him though. A little bowling ball of a man who is much quicker and has a much better cut than you would expect. Very good after contact and good vision. I thought Michel was the more agile of the two Georgia backs but actually he has looked stiff where Chubb looks lively. I was confused by us drafting him after extending Duke and signing Hyde. We had all 3 backs tied up for at least 4 years, it just seemed odd. But I am excited!
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Miss Lonelyhearts posted:Tbh he's probably(definitely) just an obsessive psycho who has unnatural mannerisms and problems expressing himself and people are equating that with a closeted homosexual. Also being openly gay in the NFL unfortunately seems like career suicide so who knows. But I prefer the emotionless robot analogy. He was on a not sports related podcast a few years ago and he came across as a normal dude. He doesn’t like Fox News.
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Kalli posted:If you care about game reads, you should probably read Orlovsky on twitter: Since he retired and started posting on Twitter it's become clear why Orlovsky lasted so long in the NFL in spite of... certain end-zone related missteps: He really knows his poo poo, and is capable of analyzing and clearly explaining a lot of the nuances that go into playing the QB position. Definitely worth following if you're not already.
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I always liked Byron Leftwich even if he was never that good. I hope he does well with the opportunity. It's been talked about a lot that a big hurdle for black offensive coaches is the transition to offensive coordinator. The usual move is QB coach to OC and there are very few black QB coaches in football. Anthony Lynn being the rare recent exception of a RB coach getting the promotion.
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sharknado slashfic posted:I wonder at what point I'm going to snap and develop an eye twitch everytime I see/hear the name "Pat Mahomes" they way I do with Brady and did with Peyton. Hopefully the Chiefs keep Chiefing so that I can appreciate the awesome things Mahomes can do without resenting him for sucking all the oxygen out of the rest of the NFL. Fire Safety Doug posted:David Bakhtiari was on the Thomahawk podcast and went on about how Rodgers is the smartest and most well read guy you’ll ever meet and how he likes... conspiracy theories. lol. Football teams in general are a fertile ground for a lot of crazy ideas. When you devote so much of your life to a game there's not a ton of time or energy available to learn how the world outside of football works
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Acebuckeye13 posted:Since he retired and started posting on Twitter it's become clear why Orlovsky lasted so long in the NFL in spite of... certain end-zone related missteps: He really knows his poo poo, and is capable of analyzing and clearly explaining a lot of the nuances that go into playing the QB position. Definitely worth following if you're not already. Is he employed as even a consultant to a team or something? It’s weird to me that he has all these great insights about the game and is using them...to effortpost on Twitter. Seems like the kind of football aspergers that Belichick would have tried to scoop up. He could just be like “gently caress it I’m paid and can do whatever I want, no need for the NFL grind anymore” of course. Which is cool and good. Just seems like he is still very into football.
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a neat cape posted:Look at those outside runs I knew he was *good* when he put more than 500 yards on nebraska for a college team that is a constant font of disappointment Didn’t he do something illegal that makes me hate him now though? I just have a constant sour taste in my mouth when I look at him and I’ve kinda mentally blocked it out, I don’t get this way for dumb poo poo like the Cam Newton laptop theft so I imagine it was ugly
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Big Jay Cutler posted:I knew he was *good* when he put more than 500 yards on nebraska for a college team that is a constant font of disappointment I am fairly certain Melvin Gordon is and always has been a model citizen. Unless he did something at Wisconsin that I don't know about
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The only thing Melvin Gordon did to me is bring his floppy, imprecise, unaesthetic method of rushing to the NFL and then run up the middle for no gain a bajillion times
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a neat cape posted:I am fairly certain Melvin Gordon is and always has been a model citizen. Is he?? Aw man you made me so happy just now, I wasn’t really paying attention over the past few years but I thought something happened and was too scared to look it up. The guy is a beast, although I look at him and James White and find it funny that guys who ran behind an OL bigger than NFL o-lines have found success as receiving backs. I’ll never forget that Nebraska game where he ran at will and set NCAA records after three quarters... imagine if they gave it to him the whole fourth as well
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Play posted:The only thing Melvin Gordon did to me is bring his floppy, imprecise, unaesthetic method of rushing to the NFL and then run up the middle for no gain a bajillion times Uh lmao did you have him in fantasy? Cause my main competition this year has the Gordon/Rivers combo and I’m lucky they’re on a bye next week. But I mean running isn’t necessarily a mental game sans emotion and adrenaline, if anything being floppy is good in distributing the impact of tackles and keeping forward momentum rolling forward momentously
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Big Jay Cutler posted:Uh lmao did you have him in fantasy? Cause my main competition this year has the Gordon/Rivers combo and I’m lucky they’re on a bye next week. But I mean running isn’t necessarily a mental game sans emotion and adrenaline, if anything being floppy is good in distributing the impact of tackles and keeping forward momentum rolling forward momentously I don't hate him or anything there's just something I never liked about his running style. Very little footwork and can't really cut that well, but you're right that the way he flops around when contacted tends to get him a bit of extra progress. It's a lot better this season now that they're testing the edges with him instead of just running up the middle. 2015 through 2017 he averaged less than four yards per carry and yet last year he still broke 1,000 yards just by virtue of so many attempts. This season he's averaging 5.1ypc so there has really been massive progress there. For a while it was pretty painful to watch
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Fire Safety Doug posted:David Bakhtiari was on the Thomahawk podcast and went on about how Rodgers is the smartest and most well read guy you’ll ever meet and how he likes... conspiracy theories. I loving love conspiracy theories, and I spend a ton of time reading about them. Do I believe a goddamn one? No. But I would still classify myself as someone who loves conspiracy theories.
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Play posted:The only thing Melvin Gordon did to me is bring his floppy, imprecise, unaesthetic method of rushing to the NFL and then run up the middle for no gain a bajillion times He was also running under a mike McCoy offense his first two years. This year they're getting him out on sweeps and pitches and lo and behold he looks like a goddamn superstar
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Spoeank posted:I loving love conspiracy theories, and I spend a ton of time reading about them. Yeah, this. I read/listen to too many "unexplained mysteries" type stuff. I don't believe any of it though. [size="x-small"]the New Orleans mafia killed jfk[/size]
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Play posted:I don't hate him or anything there's just something I never liked about his running style. Very little footwork and can't really cut that well, but you're right that the way he flops around when contacted tends to get him a bit of extra progress. It's a lot better this season now that they're testing the edges with him instead of just running up the middle. 2015 through 2017 he averaged less than four yards per carry and yet last year he still broke 1,000 yards just by virtue of so many attempts. That looseness is bound to help more around the edges, fewer/smaller guys hitting you. It’s the dao, would you rather cross a river by swimming straight upstream or by swimming with the flow and letting the phillip river carry you across?
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