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ApplesandOranges
Jun 22, 2012

Thankee kindly.
If they were sitting next to someone with a real sob story, sure. But against most people, I dunno, I think the days of 'we shouldn't give this guy the money because he doesn't need it' are gone unless someone just wants an excuse not to vote for someone to win. Plus the guys are likable.

It'd take an immensely petty jury member to go, 'Oh, Mike's the sweetest, and he played some great strategy, and he won immunity right when he needed it! But he doesn't need the money, so I'm voting for Kara instead.'

Not everyone's coming in with a 'my mom has cancer' or 'I'm expecting a baby boy' story, and even in Adam/Jeremy's cases, they were sitting next to two goats. If money was the reason between voting for two people, it means that you were already close to voting for either of them and were looking for any reason to tip the scales in someone's favour. People who don't get the vote 'because they don't need it' were usually arrogant about their stock or boasting that they were 'just here for the title', in which case it's less about what you have and more of your attitude.

The only time I can think of where money was an actual factor was when someone in the early seasons took the eventual winner (I think Ethan) to FTC because they felt that they were gonna lose anyway so might as well someone who could use the money should win instead.

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STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

Yeah, I just don't think the "rich" thing is that big nor that Mike or John are such clearly loaded individuals for it to be a big thing unless they make it. Maybe it will. Maybe they'll say the wrong things or there will be someone on the tribe with a real thing against them. But they're not exactly 1%ers.

I mean, maybe one of them ends at the end against a sympathetic and good player who doesn't have money and that proves the difference. But who knows how that will play out?

Either way there's no way to say someone can or can't win this early. I mean, Natalie seems like a sure goat at the moment (due to her personality and actions, not her money) but that could totally change if she can take some control, make some moves, and the vibe of the cast goes dirtier.

Zesty
Jan 17, 2012

The Great Twist
Has a wealthy person won Survivor? Has a super famous/rich person made it to the finals before?

I'm not being rhetorical. I'm not sure.

Rarity
Oct 21, 2010

~*4 LIFE*~

Zesty posted:

Has a wealthy person won Survivor? Has a super famous/rich person made it to the finals before?

I'm not being rhetorical. I'm not sure.

Brian Heidik was already super rich when he won Thailand. He was freaking out when his video from home showed off his swanky mansion, car collection and hot porn star wife.

Raxivace
Sep 9, 2014

You would have to be rich to afford the biggest ice skates, so you could be the best skater.

Pinterest Mom
Jun 9, 2009

Congratulations (?) Brenda

ApplesandOranges
Jun 22, 2012

Thankee kindly.

Zesty posted:

Has a wealthy person won Survivor? Has a super famous/rich person made it to the finals before?

I'm not being rhetorical. I'm not sure.

Russell owns a big oil company, he offered Natalie White a whole bunch of money if she'd give up her title.

And there's, well, Brad Culpepper (is his wife famous by proxy? Hmm).

You're way more likely to get voted out for being a previous winner (in returnee seasons) or for being too much of a jury threat (heck, Zeke was pretty much a dead man walking after the Varner vote in Game Changers since nobody wanted to sit next to him at the end).

UltimoDragonQuest
Oct 5, 2011



Bring back the Don't Drown challenge!

Capsaicin
Nov 17, 2004

broof roof roof
has there been a worse challenge than the digging challenge that led to like three medevacs a couple seasons ago? i’ll even throw amazing race eating challenges in there too

Binary Logic
Dec 28, 2000

Fun Shoe

UltimoDragonQuest posted:

Bring back the Don't Drown challenge!


It was done on Australian Survivor and it still holds up as a great contest.

IcePhoenix
Sep 18, 2005

Take me to your Shida

Zesty posted:

Has a wealthy person won Survivor? Has a super famous/rich person made it to the finals before?

I'm not being rhetorical. I'm not sure.

Boston Rob immediately comes to my mind

e: I guess Sandra but I'm not sure if an all-star season with multiple winners in the cast really counts

Bigass Moth
Mar 6, 2004

I joined the #RXT REVOLUTION.
:boom:
he knows...
Who is the richest person to play? Jeff Kent?

UltimoDragonQuest
Oct 5, 2011



Bigass Moth posted:

Who is the richest person to play? Jeff Kent?
I'd be shocked if he wasn't barring some crazy investments from Cliff Robinson. From straight league earnings we have Kent at $86M, Cliff Robinson at $61M, and Scott Pollard with a distant $38M. I don't have a good source but coaching and 20 years of TV money put Jimmy Johnson in the mix.

e: Forgot David Samson from the old Marlins management. That dude is loaded and crushes Jeff.

Fast Luck
Feb 2, 1988

Was considering how willing Davey was to turn on Elizabeth and it came to mind how Elizabeth was part of the blindside on Alec’s alliance before. That got me thinking Alec could have learned all that and have assurances from Davey and reason to think the Davids won’t straight up take over. Maybe they’ve already considered an Alec/Davey/Carl core and it was just a decision whether to start that yet or not. Probably can take out Elizabeth next.

SweetJahasus
Dec 23, 2005

Dragon Slayer
Samurai Warrior
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Chong-Ra Master

BE THE WIZARD

UltimoDragonQuest posted:

I'd be shocked if he wasn't barring some crazy investments from Cliff Robinson. From straight league earnings we have Kent at $86M, Cliff Robinson at $61M, and Scott Pollard with a distant $38M. I don't have a good source but coaching and 20 years of TV money put Jimmy Johnson in the mix.

e: Forgot David Samson from the old Marlins management. That dude is loaded and crushes Jeff.

David Samson is definitely the richest. Afaik he lost a poo poo ton of money though because of dogshit mismanagement of the Marlins. He was also spectacularly bad at Survivor.

Vernacular
Nov 29, 2004

Bigass Moth posted:

Who is the richest person to play? Jeff Kent?

Never forget the best exit speech of all time

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIQGWY0woy0

STAC Goat
Mar 12, 2008

Watching you sleep.

Butt first, let's
check the feeds.

UltimoDragonQuest posted:

I'd be shocked if he wasn't barring some crazy investments from Cliff Robinson. From straight league earnings we have Kent at $86M, Cliff Robinson at $61M, and Scott Pollard with a distant $38M. I don't have a good source but coaching and 20 years of TV money put Jimmy Johnson in the mix.

e: Forgot David Samson from the old Marlins management. That dude is loaded and crushes Jeff.

Samson probably beats him but I'd think Johnson has to have more than the players. He's got all that Superbowl, Hall of Fame, "America's Team", and tv money plus any sponsorship stuff. Johnson is the way biggest deal of the "athletes."

Also you forgot Culpeper. He might have the other players beat consider his post playing career.

The Bloop
Jul 5, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

Capsaicin posted:

has there been a worse challenge than the digging challenge that led to like three medevacs a couple seasons ago? i’ll even throw amazing race eating challenges in there too

Adus
Nov 4, 2009

heck

Spergatory posted:

The thing about Christian that's helping him land for me is that he's not self-loathing. He's rarely even self-deprecating; rather, he seems comfortable in his own skin, like somebody who knows their own weaknesses, but is equally familiar with and capable of utilizing their strengths. He just... knows himself. He can say he grew up in Wimpville in one episode, but in the next, be the herald of the Charmpocalypse, and both are believable. So many characters in the Cochran mold have this uncomfortable layer of self-loathing to them, with Jacob Derwin being the worst offender. But Christian? Christian is fine being who he is. In fact, I'd say he actively enjoys it. And that's refreshing coming from his archetype.

yeah i like him a lot. plus he works with robots. i wish i could say i do something even a fraction of something that interesting. and the concept of him and john hitting it off is hilarious to me and i want to see that alliance get to the end. it's a bit like david and ken but if instead ken was a person with charisma and not ken.

also i can't believe no one called back to this which was posted like a week before the last episode:

TheCenturion posted:

:wiggle: I want YOU to come join Slam Town.
:reject: You're asking me to emigrate to Slam Town? Become a Slamtonian? I don't know, what's in it for me? I mean, you're the mayor of Slam Town, what do I get?
:wiggle: Deputy Mayor?
:reject: I don't know, that seems like a very ceremonial position. I don't want to be out, you know, cutting ribbons at the new Slamming Salon while you're out forming policy. How about Comptroller?
:wiggle: Comptroller?
:reject: Yes, Comptroller of Slam Town.


And thus was born the beginning of a new alliance, an alliance to surpass Mason-Dixon; the City Council of Slam Town. With their unique mix of brains, brawn, civic duty and bureaucratic savvy, the City Council of Slam Town proceeded to dominate the rest of the game.

centurion, who are you on the production team?? out with it!

SLICK GOKU BABY
Jun 12, 2001

Hey Hey Let's Go! 喧嘩する
大切な物を protect my balls


drat, I know they did it at the start a few seasons ago, but having to evacuate the island in the middle of the game is something special.

Propaganda Machine
Jan 2, 2005

Truthiness!
Not to get all :tinfoil: but is this kind of normal for Samoa, or is it climate change related? I know Indonesia also got wrecked this fall, but I forget if it was cyclones or earthquakes.

IcePhoenix
Sep 18, 2005

Take me to your Shida

holey moley that is some gat dang weather

Shneak
Mar 6, 2015

A sad Professor Plum
sitting on a toilet.

Propaganda Machine posted:

Not to get all :tinfoil: but is this kind of normal for Samoa, or is it climate change related? I know Indonesia also got wrecked this fall, but I forget if it was cyclones or earthquakes.

This is the 2nd time in the last 2 years. Definitely climate change.

IcePhoenix
Sep 18, 2005

Take me to your Shida

jeeeeesus those camps

Propaganda Machine
Jan 2, 2005

Truthiness!
lol natalie

Shneak
Mar 6, 2015

A sad Professor Plum
sitting on a toilet.
'I'm a former fatty' is the weirdest sob story

Propaganda Machine
Jan 2, 2005

Truthiness!

Shneak posted:

'I'm a former fatty' is the weirdest sob story

It took a real Michelangelo to chisel Goliath out of all that flab.

IcePhoenix
Sep 18, 2005

Take me to your Shida

Gabby's "thank you" was full of "You just saved my life" :3:

Shneak
Mar 6, 2015

A sad Professor Plum
sitting on a toilet.
RIP Lyrsa.

Propaganda Machine
Jan 2, 2005

Truthiness!
I dunno, I can see Mike flipping. He was kind of on the outs with his original tribe anyway.

TASTE THE PAIN!!
May 18, 2004

Christian is such a boss, the other brochachos are in awe of him

Propaganda Machine
Jan 2, 2005

Truthiness!
what the gently caress even is this

InsensitiveSeaBass
Apr 1, 2008

You're entering a realm which is unusual. Maybe it's magic, or contains some kind of monster... The second one. Prepare to enter The Scary Door.
Nap Ghost
What happens when someone has two immunity idols? I'm assuming it's obvious and they survive two councils.

I bet Natalie palmed the hidden idol for their team.

SLICK GOKU BABY
Jun 12, 2001

Hey Hey Let's Go! 喧嘩する
大切な物を protect my balls


InsensitiveSeaBass posted:

What happens when someone has two immunity idols? I'm assuming it's obvious and they survive two councils.

I bet Natalie palmed the hidden idol for their team.

They get overconfident and get voted out with both idols.

IcePhoenix
Sep 18, 2005

Take me to your Shida

LMAO "Please give me your jackeeetttttt"

Propaganda Machine
Jan 2, 2005

Truthiness!

IcePhoenix posted:

LMAO "Please give me your jackeeetttttt"

InsensitiveSeaBass
Apr 1, 2008

You're entering a realm which is unusual. Maybe it's magic, or contains some kind of monster... The second one. Prepare to enter The Scary Door.
Nap Ghost

SLICK GOKU BABY posted:

They get overconfident and get voted out with both idols.

I can see that happening.

Glad to be wrong about Natalie's stealth skills! :byewhore:

IcePhoenix
Sep 18, 2005

Take me to your Shida

InsensitiveSeaBass posted:

I can see that happening.

Glad to be wrong about Natalie's stealth skills! :byewhore:

The idol from that camp is in Davey's pocket so there was nothing there for her to palm

Shneak
Mar 6, 2015

A sad Professor Plum
sitting on a toilet.
"Natalie, can I have your jacket?... Natalie?" :lol:

Actually shocked at that outcome though.

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AWarmBody
Jul 26, 2014

Better than a cold one.
"Natalie"
"Natalie"
"Natalie"

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