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This is my least favourite bit of voting on a saturday. waiting days for an official result.
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my mum is a boomer and she was horrified when she learned i smoke bowls
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Oct 21, 2018 21:38
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"but bell jar, dear, what will you put your cocopops in?!"
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Oct 21, 2018 21:46
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https://twitter.com/Paul_Karp/status/1054110157704114181
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Oct 21, 2018 22:21
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Pretty hard to believe considering the fact that if we go by votes cast before polling day Sharma would win easily.
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Oct 21, 2018 22:43
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Oct 21, 2018 23:01
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Guess whose leadership ambitions are back, back againquote:Jim Chalmers broke down in tears and begged Kevin Rudd to let him run for Parliament, despite helping orchestrate a carpet-bombing campaign against the former prime minister during Labor's leadership wars. https://www.smh.com.au/politics/fed...021-p50az0.html Rudd really is a piece of work
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Oct 21, 2018 23:08
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Considering that the Liberals should have not lost a seat with such a healthy margin, I don't see what Pyne has a crow about
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Oct 21, 2018 23:16
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Lid posted:Guess whose leadership ambitions are back, back again where is he wrong though?
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Oct 21, 2018 23:28
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Swan was not incompetent
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Oct 21, 2018 23:35
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BBJoey posted:Swan was not incompetent He was the smart one.
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Oct 21, 2018 23:40
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Herald Sun is still hoping for a postal vote win this morning lmao
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Oct 21, 2018 23:46
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https://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2018-10-22/coalition-mps-blame-leadership-spill-for-wentworth-loss/10402528?pfmredir=sm Awesome, they aren't gonna learn a drat thing.
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Oct 21, 2018 23:47
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BBJoey posted:Swan was not incompetent Yes but he was/is a dope.
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Lid posted:Guess whose leadership ambitions are back, back again The rest is meh but I though Swannie was alright?
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Oct 21, 2018 23:48
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all the boomers in my family have smoked cones
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Oct 21, 2018 23:48
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https://twitter.com/GrogsGamut/status/1054139837119250432norp posted:Awesome, they aren't gonna learn a drat thing.
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Oct 21, 2018 23:54
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on saturday afternoon a well-liked local stock and station agent was struck and killed by lightning in the middle of the geurie racecourse, geurie (just west of dubbo) during the golden collar australian cattledog competition
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Oct 22, 2018 00:03
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afaik no cattledogs were harmed, i'm still trying to verify it
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They really should learn. I was speaking to my wifes auntie and uncle who are down from Sydney for a wedding, and I thought they lived in Wentworth but they actually live in Warringah. They are two late 60/early 70s retired doctor/professors who immigrated from Malaysia in the 80s to Sydney. Chinese background and obviously fairly conservative with money / social views but not bible thumping or anything. More when them and my in laws get together are just like "I don't really get all these kids these days but whatever". He said he voted for Howard a few times but didn't like the one nation stuff back in the day and these days can barely see a difference. Also had the view of "At least if they had let Turnbull actually be leader they could have been better, but he was so spineless and gave in to everything then they got rid of him anyway" And they haaaaattte Abbott. You gotta think that sentiment is not exactly uncommon. I'm not saying they are the 'normal' voters in Warringah (if they were obviously things would be different) but they've gone from on again off again liberal voters to straight labor voters, surely others are going to start being put off enough, and an independant spoiler coming in, even if they are a 'tree tory' is still better than a liberal, even if you still shouldn't trust them for anything.
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Oct 22, 2018 00:37
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Nick Cater posted:The Liberals' core vote is in lamington land, not cupcake country.
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incredible flesh posted:on saturday afternoon a well-liked local stock and station agent was struck and killed by lightning in the middle of the geurie racecourse, geurie (just west of dubbo) during the golden collar australian cattledog competition that's hosed up, if lightning can strike there it could strike anywhere.
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Oct 22, 2018 00:54
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The Liberals need to look at the press conferences of footy coaches who lose games. They never show satisfaction with a close loss, blame their own failings and admit a need to reassess things. It shows character and an ability to grow from one’s mistakes. It’s like the Liberals have had it drilled into them by an alpha dog that you can never admit weakness because people don’t like that, but it’s a load of wank.
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Oct 22, 2018 00:57
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Trapezium Dave posted:
I swear this creeping Americanism is infectious. Core vote - assuming such a thing existed - doesn’t matter. We have mandatory voting. We have seats. You need to win more seats than anyone else to be a government. What your most crazy 10% think is irrelevant to winning power. Especially so as presumably your “core voters” will vote for you whatever you say or do, and unlike the US they have no option to stay home. It’s a meaningless term here.
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Oct 22, 2018 00:59
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JBP posted:Herald Sun is still hoping for a postal vote win this morning lmao None too surprising. I can't wait to see Bolt's take on this by-election
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Oct 22, 2018 01:02
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hambeet posted:The rest is meh but I though Swannie was alright? I've never seen anything not written by a CHUD or a RUDD to suggest otherwise. The global peak body liked him enough to give him an award. I follow him on Facebook and apart from persisting with the ALP thing, he's never posted anything I didn't mostly agree with. Calling bullshit. teacup posted:You gotta think that sentiment is not exactly uncommon. I'm not saying they are the 'normal' voters in Warringah (if they were obviously things would be different) but they've gone from on again off again liberal voters to straight labor voters, surely others are going to start being put off enough, and an independant spoiler coming in, even if they are a 'tree tory' is still better than a liberal, even if you still shouldn't trust them for anything. Based on surveys and polling done in Warringah that I have seen, this is totally not uncommon. It is a lot like Wentworth in that it's a $$$ area but not a redneck suburban wasteland like western Sydney, or whatever the gently caress is going on in the Shire. If it's anything like Curtin (Bishop's seat) over here, the bulk of the population are second or third generation millionaires, and their kids; private school alumni, generally walk into a GO8 and walk out with no HECS debt and a law/med/business degree. It's a highly educated demographic, that benefit fairly nicely from standard Liberal economic policies. But they don't want to lose their houses to Climate Change any more than the next guy, don't support homophobic policy, and don't really want to have to defend their proudly racist immigration policies to their foreign tablemates on the cruise ship at dinner. These blue ribbon seats are all in peril if high enough profile independants run. They'll never vote for Labor, because a lifetime of chugging down LABAH WASTE coolaid doesn't just go away, and they do stand to lose economically - but if someone with credentials beyond "Was an Australian Idol Host" shows up and puts on a campaign as good as Phelps' (and provided Phelps isn't hot garbage once she starts the job), I think they could get up. Abbott barely beat an empty chair in his own loving branch. People don't like him.
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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-10...Twitter_Organic More government agencies are accessing people's phone and internet records than originally envisaged, in what critics are describing as "authority creep". Key points: Access to metadata was initially restricted to 22 government agencies, but state-based agencies have blown that figure out Because they are accessing metadata and not content of communications, no warrant is required It is not known how many agencies are now able to request metadata Controversial laws which came into force last year compel telecommunications companies to retain metadata on their customers, including information on who you call or text, where you make calls from, and who you send emails to. To allay privacy concerns, access to the metadata was limited to 22 specific police and intelligence agencies, such as the Australian Federal Police, ASIO and state police forces. But a parliamentary hearing has been told that number has blown out. "There are many more than 22 agencies," John Stanton from Communications Alliance, the industry peak body, said. "Many state-based agencies have come forward and started using their own state-based powers to request metadata. "Authority creep, I guess you might call it." The Communications Alliance told the parliamentary hearing telcos are getting around 1,000 requests for metadata each day. It is not clear exactly how many agencies are now able to request access to stored metadata. Because they are accessing the metadata and not the content of communications, the agencies are not required to get a warrant. Shadow Attorney-General Mark Dreyfus expressed concern, noting access to stored metadata was supposed to be tightly restricted. "It's a specified group of 22, reduced at the time of the mandatory data retention legislation going through from the previous very wide group of around 80." What constitutes a 'systemic weakness'? The concerns were raised in hearings held by the powerful Parliamentary Joint Committee on Intelligence and Security. The Committee is examining proposed laws about how agencies can access password-protected devices and the content of communications, including encrypted data. What you found in Will's metadata What you found in Will's metadata We published ABC reporter Will Ockenden's metadata in full and hundreds of you helped analyse it. Here's what you got right — and wrong. Critics have described the 'Assistance and Access' bill as forcing companies to give the Government "back-door" access to their customers' devices and data — something the Federal Government and national security agencies refute. The legislation explicitly prohibits companies from being compelled to build "systemic weaknesses" into their technology for the benefit of police and intelligence agencies. But what that means has not been defined. "A systemic weakness means different things to different companies, and different things in different circumstances," Mr Dreyfus said. "Who is going to decide what the systemic weakness is? Is it going to be the agency or is it going to be the tech company?" Home Affairs Department secretary Michael Pezzullo told the committee hearing that authorities and companies will work together to determine what constitutes a "systemic weakness". He said police and intelligence agencies don't want "back doors" to be built into systems any more than the telcos or the public. What is metadata? What is metadata? What is metadata and how might it impact whistleblowers in media and politics? "A systemic weakness would be something which would be universal, and therefore subject to the technical capacity of someone wishing to attack that weakness, [it] would be available to all attackers. "That is the last thing we want." Duncan Lewis, the director-general of spy agency ASIO, also sought to reassure critics, telling the parliamentary committee his agency is only interested in a small amount of data relevant to their investigations. "I'll describe it as similar to using a pair of precision tweezers to extract a needle from a communication haystack," he said. "We're looking to communication providers to help us pick that needle out of the haystack." The ABC has contacted the Minister for Home Affairs for comment but has not yet had a response. SHARE
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You Am I posted:None too surprising. I can't wait to see Bolt's take on this by-election So far I've seen him blame Turnbull for quitting and Morrison for being poo poo as a PM.
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JBP posted:He was the smart one. I like Swannie and I think Rudd is being a dickhead coz it's what he does best. That said, I'd like to know more about Rudd's claim that Swan was AWOL during the confrontation over the mining tax. I suspect it's Rudd blaming others for the failure of his administration but that mining tax confrontation is what led to Rudd getting knifed and arguably poisoning the well for Gillards administration. If it's true that some ALP figures were effectively on the side of the resource companies because they saw personal benefit then that's worth knowing, despite their other virtues. I do think it's more likely that Rudd is throwing poo poo to try and salvage his reputation. But as much as I liked Gillard and Swan the mining tax angle on Rudd being knifed was a big loss for the ALP government and a big win for the climate change denial movement.
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You Am I posted:None too surprising. I can't wait to see Bolt's take on this by-election Me too, brotherrrr
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clusterfuck posted:I like Swannie and I think Rudd is being a dickhead coz it's what he does best. That said, I'd like to know more about Rudd's claim that Swan was AWOL during the confrontation over the mining tax. I suspect it's Rudd blaming others for the failure of his administration but that mining tax confrontation is what led to Rudd getting knifed and arguably poisoning the well for Gillards administration. If it's true that some ALP figures were effectively on the side of the resource companies because they saw personal benefit then that's worth knowing, despite their other virtues. I remember I had just arrived in Perth when the mining tax was starting to roll and the government's advertising campaign was literally a bloke delivering a power point presentation. It was loving woeful.
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Oct 22, 2018 01:17
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Don Dongington posted:I've never seen anything not written by a CHUD or a RUDD to suggest otherwise. The global peak body liked him enough to give him an award. I follow him on Facebook and apart from persisting with the ALP thing, he's never posted anything I didn't mostly agree with. Wayne Swan in 2012 posted:Yes, I find it pretty disturbing because the coal industry is a very important industry in Australia. I'm a very big supporter of the coal industry. It's a very important part of the economy in my home state of Queensland but it's very important in our national economy. And I've been working with the coal industry to make sure that it is sustainable over time. Yes we have to reduce greenhouse gas emissions but the coal industry is very important. It will be a very important supplier of power to the global economy for many years to come. So this is just completely irrational and destructive.
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Oct 22, 2018 01:19
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Blamestorm posted:I swear this creeping Americanism is infectious. The big puzzler for me is how all these commentators think an affluent seat like Wentworth, prior to the weekend always conservative and home of multiple Liberal ministers and leaders, does not qualify as part of the "Liberal base".
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Oct 22, 2018 01:20
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That Rudd article is a good read. He has all the self reflection of Narcissus. quote:Mr Rudd said Mr Swan lacked the "cerebral horsepower" of the finance minister Lindsay Tanner and was missing in action during Labor's battle against the resources industry over the mining tax. Unsurprisingly he can’t write prose for poo poo. quote:Mr Rudd writes: "'Julia, you do realise that I don’t intend to be prime minister for life? I have no intention of passing Howard’s record. In fact, I have no intention of passing Hawke’s record. This is a killing job, which you yourself will discover one day, not too many years hence.'
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Oct 22, 2018 01:20
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I didn't even want to be Prime Minister! https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-10-22/new-era-gun-lobby-to-play-role-in-more-election-campaigns/10395516 quote:A gun industry lobby group backed by five of the largest Australian firearms wholesalers has declared its intention to intervene in state and federal elections to hold governments "accountable for the decisions they make".
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Oct 22, 2018 01:39
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My first car was a stick
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Oct 22, 2018 01:40
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Lol Turnbull's touched down in Sydney. I love how clearly he doesn't give a gently caress. If I was Turnbull I'd probably take my money and tell them to gently caress themselves, too.
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...d_4zK2ofxOIoSgc TL;DR - Greens dominating European elections, ripping votes from centre right and left parties as they all lurch to the right chasing a handful of votes and then say "I don't know why this keeps happening". It's a shame the Aust Greens really suck at messaging since Di Natale took over, because there is absolutely ground to be gained at the moment, based on these demographic shifts.
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