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Humbug Scoolbus
Apr 25, 2008

The scarlet letter was her passport into regions where other women dared not tread. Shame, Despair, Solitude! These had been her teachers, stern and wild ones, and they had made her strong, but taught her much amiss.
Clapping Larry

tuyop posted:

Well, poo poo, I've run out of my queue of sci fi.

Recently, I read: House of Suns (pretty good), Dragon's Egg (very good), A World Out of Time (good, but obviously dated), All Systems Red (surprisingly good), Use of Weapons (maybe good as a book but poo poo as an audiobook), The Long Way to a Small, Angry Planet (poo poo, I actually stopped reading this one because life is too short).

I'm looking for good hard SF, FTL and dumb dogfighty space battles are pretty much right out for me. I loved Chasing Ice, Children of Time, and Rendezvous With Rama, among others.

Any ideas?

Stephen Baxter's NASA series; Voyage, Titan, Moonseed

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Lockback
Sep 3, 2006

All days are nights to see till I see thee; and nights bright days when dreams do show me thee.

tuyop posted:

Well, poo poo, I've run out of my queue of sci fi.

Recently, I read: House of Suns (pretty good), Dragon's Egg (very good), A World Out of Time (good, but obviously dated), All Systems Red (surprisingly good), Use of Weapons (maybe good as a book but poo poo as an audiobook), The Long Way to a Small, Angry Planet (poo poo, I actually stopped reading this one because life is too short).

I'm looking for good hard SF, FTL and dumb dogfighty space battles are pretty much right out for me. I loved Chasing Ice, Children of Time, and Rendezvous With Rama, among others.

Any ideas?

Mote in God's Eye was really good

tuyop
Sep 15, 2006

Every second that we're not growing BASIL is a second wasted

Fun Shoe
I’ll get that! I’m really enjoying Spin so far, so thank you for that recommendation.

xcheopis
Jul 23, 2003


Mote in God's Eye had a lot of good stuff and also hilariously stupid poo poo, such as, "Human woman have to stop working once they're pregnant!".

Christoph
Mar 3, 2005
Anyone have any nonfiction recommendations of books about Renaissance intrigue? Court plots, assassinations, politics, stuff that has firsthand letters and journal entries - that is, stuff at a fairly personal level. I'm also interested in odd period details or folk customs/beliefs. (War campaigns and detailed battles are things I'm not too keen on)

Selachian
Oct 9, 2012

Christoph posted:

Anyone have any nonfiction recommendations of books about Renaissance intrigue? Court plots, assassinations, politics, stuff that has firsthand letters and journal entries - that is, stuff at a fairly personal level. I'm also interested in odd period details or folk customs/beliefs. (War campaigns and detailed battles are things I'm not too keen on)

If you haven't tried The Autobiography of Benvenuto Cellini yet, you ought to. It's a great read, although be warned that Cellini is far from a reliable autobiographer.

Khizan
Jul 30, 2013


tuyop posted:

I'm looking for good hard SF, FTL and dumb dogfighty space battles are pretty much right out for me. I loved Chasing Ice, Children of Time, and Rendezvous With Rama, among others.

Kim Stanley Robinson's Aurora.

tuyop
Sep 15, 2006

Every second that we're not growing BASIL is a second wasted

Fun Shoe

Khizan posted:

Kim Stanley Robinson's Aurora.

I loved that book, good recommendation.

chernobyl kinsman
Mar 18, 2007

a friend of the friendly atom

Soiled Meat

Christoph posted:

Anyone have any nonfiction recommendations of books about Renaissance intrigue? Court plots, assassinations, politics, stuff that has firsthand letters and journal entries - that is, stuff at a fairly personal level. I'm also interested in odd period details or folk customs/beliefs. (War campaigns and detailed battles are things I'm not too keen on)

The Watchers: A Secret History of the Reign of Elizabeth I

OscarDiggs
Jun 1, 2011

Those sure are words on pages which are given in a sequential order!
Pretty drat close to finished "The White Tiger" by Aravind Adiga. All in all a story I very much enjoyed (and I didn't think I was going to first, but the details and the charm of the main character sold me) and it was interesting reading something by a non-white author. I'll be looking for new things to read soon, so are there any recomendations along similar lines?

tuyop
Sep 15, 2006

Every second that we're not growing BASIL is a second wasted

Fun Shoe

OscarDiggs posted:

Pretty drat close to finished "The White Tiger" by Aravind Adiga. All in all a story I very much enjoyed (and I didn't think I was going to first, but the details and the charm of the main character sold me) and it was interesting reading something by a non-white author. I'll be looking for new things to read soon, so are there any recomendations along similar lines?

Good fiction by non-white authors? Off the tip of my head, check out:
Beloved by Toni Morrison
Cutting for Stone by Abraham Verghese
And the Mountains Echoed by Khaled Hosseini (I liked it much better than The Kite Runner)
The English Patient by Michael Ondaatje
Zone One by Colson Whitehead (it's a zombie book, but it's also very poetic and he just won the Pulitzer! For a different book.)
Blindness by José Saramago
One Hundred Years of Solitude by Gabriel Garcia Márquez

Ras Het
May 23, 2007

when I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child - but now I am a man.

tuyop posted:

Blindness by José Saramago
One Hundred Years of Solitude by Gabriel Garcia Márquez

Your definition of white seems extremely problematic

tuyop
Sep 15, 2006

Every second that we're not growing BASIL is a second wasted

Fun Shoe

Ras Het posted:

Your definition of white seems extremely problematic

Latinx people are “white” where you come from???

Edit: I guess Saramago is from Portugal, oops. Still a good book though!

tuyop fucked around with this message at 21:35 on Oct 23, 2018

Ras Het
May 23, 2007

when I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child - but now I am a man.
I mean feel free to racialise Latin America if you feel like that's helpful, but considering Portuguese people "non-white", really? How about Italians? Or the French?

tuyop
Sep 15, 2006

Every second that we're not growing BASIL is a second wasted

Fun Shoe

Ras Het posted:

I mean feel free to racialise Latin America if you feel like that's helpful, but considering Portuguese people "non-white", really? How about Italians? Or the French?

Yeah I thought he was Brazilian, my bad.

A human heart
Oct 10, 2012

tuyop posted:

Latinx people are “white” where you come from???

Edit: I guess Saramago is from Portugal, oops. Still a good book though!

There's both white and nonwhite people in latin america so even if he was from Brazil I'm not sure how that would change things

tuyop
Sep 15, 2006

Every second that we're not growing BASIL is a second wasted

Fun Shoe
Well, sure. But the whole concept of whiteness and race in general is absolutely made up bullshit. I’m just trying to give a goon a list of books by authors I thought fit their criteria! Next you’re going to tell me that, say, Junot Díaz isn’t “African American” because he’s from Dominican Republic and doesn’t fit the blood quanta for East African slave ancestry or something, it’s all absurd!

chernobyl kinsman
Mar 18, 2007

a friend of the friendly atom

Soiled Meat
i need to know the exact skull measurements of any given author before i choose to read their books. its the only way to be sure whether they be of the caucasoid, mongoloid, negroid, or australoid race

Hieronymous Alloy
Jan 30, 2009


Why! Why!! Why must you refuse to accept that Dr. Hieronymous Alloy's Genetically Enhanced Cream Corn Is Superior to the Leading Brand on the Market!?!




Morbid Hound

chernobyl kinsman posted:

i need to know the exact skull measurements of any given author before i choose to read their books. its the only way to be sure whether they be of the caucasoid, mongoloid, negroid, or australoid race

You left out Iberian

StrixNebulosa
Feb 14, 2012

You cheated not only the game, but yourself.
But most of all, you cheated BABA

If you want a good book by a non-white author, A Brief History of Seven Killings by Marlon James is both really good and really brutal.

Picture a lady in the library, picking up the book and going "what's this" and then spending the next hour sitting in the upstairs comfy seat by the window, eyes wide open as horrible things happen in Jamaica.

chernobyl kinsman
Mar 18, 2007

a friend of the friendly atom

Soiled Meat

Hieronymous Alloy posted:

You left out Iberian

once again forcibly removed from a book signing for attempting to apply calipers to saramago's head

Bilirubin
Feb 16, 2014

The sanctioned action is to CHUG


Just about finished with Nnedi Okorafor's Who Fears Death and can strongly recommend it. It's probably a bit too genre for some but if you like a little magic in your post apocalyptic Africa-based stories it might be for you.

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh
The Remains of the Day by Kazuo Ishiguro must be such a suprise for fans of Japanese literature.

Sham bam bamina!
Nov 6, 2012

ƨtupid cat

OscarDiggs posted:

Pretty drat close to finished "The White Tiger" by Aravind Adiga. All in all a story I very much enjoyed (and I didn't think I was going to first, but the details and the charm of the main character sold me) and it was interesting reading something by a non-white author. I'll be looking for new things to read soon, so are there any recomendations along similar lines?
Jhumpa Lahiri's supposed to be great (one of a million authors I keep meaning to read). She writes more about Indian-American immigrants than about people in India itself, but it's still probably good to have another perspective on India and the modern world, especially from a woman.

Sham bam bamina! fucked around with this message at 10:31 on Oct 24, 2018

Radio Spiricom
Aug 17, 2009

OscarDiggs posted:

Pretty drat close to finished "The White Tiger" by Aravind Adiga. All in all a story I very much enjoyed (and I didn't think I was going to first, but the details and the charm of the main character sold me) and it was interesting reading something by a non-white author. I'll be looking for new things to read soon, so are there any recomendations along similar lines?

Petals of Blood by Ngugi Wa Thiong'o
A Brief History of Seven Killings by Marlon James
The Satanic Verses by Salman Rushdie
The Blind Owl by Sadegh Hedayat
Invisible Man by Ralph Ellison
Giovanni's Room, or anything else by James Baldwin
Anything by Toni Morrison but my favorites are The Bluest Eye and Sula

GorfZaplen
Jan 20, 2012

OscarDiggs posted:

Pretty drat close to finished "The White Tiger" by Aravind Adiga. All in all a story I very much enjoyed (and I didn't think I was going to first, but the details and the charm of the main character sold me) and it was interesting reading something by a non-white author. I'll be looking for new things to read soon, so are there any recomendations along similar lines?

Vanishing Rooms by Melvin Dixon
The Chaneysville Incident by David Bradley
Season of Migration to the North by Tayeb Salih
Maru by Bessie Head

anilEhilated
Feb 17, 2014

But I say fuck the rain.

Grimey Drawer
Kind of an odd request, but would anyone know of a good - more popular than scientific - book about the history of paleontology? Stories of the people and expeditions that dug up dinosaurs, that kind of thing.

Bilirubin
Feb 16, 2014

The sanctioned action is to CHUG


anilEhilated posted:

Kind of an odd request, but would anyone know of a good - more popular than scientific - book about the history of paleontology? Stories of the people and expeditions that dug up dinosaurs, that kind of thing.

Bone Wars by Tom Rea about the turn of last century battlebetween Marsh at Yale and Cope in New York and how Andrew Carnegie wanted his own dinosaurs in Pittsburgh.
Quest for the African Dinosaurs by Louis Jacobs. Recent dinosaur hunting in Mali iirc
Hunting Dinosaurs by Louis Psihoyos--profiles of then current, now aging, dinosaur hunters
Your Inner Fish by Neil Shubin, about the finding of Tiktaalik in part.
Living Fossil by Keith Thompson, about the rediscovery of living coelacanths
Dinosaur Lives by Jack Horner, about whatever the hell Jack was talking about in that book.

And there are many others, about the AMNH's Mongolian expeditions headed by Barnum Brown, say, or the one about Sue the T. rex. Now if you want deeper histories, like say into early supporters of Darwin like Huxley, or Mary Anning (who has a book about her published in the past year or two) LMK. Gould often gets into the history of disovery and development of evolutionary thinking so his collections of essays are all highly recommended (and Wonderful Life pretty much mandatory reading). These are a few recommendations I just pulled off the shelf to my right.

achtungnight
Oct 5, 2014
I get my fun here. Enjoy!
This is just a general recommendation, not an answer to any request.

I’m reading a book called Herokiller by Paul Tassi. It’s about a Special Ops spy in a dystopian but believable future America sent to compete in a Hunger Games slash Modern Coliseum Gladiator Battle reality show. The show is backed by a tech zillionaire who may be an agent for Communist China. Hero is ultimately supposed to get dirt on and take down the zillionaire. It’s got great writing, compelling characters, very interesting and well established setting... I like it enough to recommend it here even though I’m still in the second of 3 acts. Pick it up if you’re looking for a fun action packed character drama to read.

anilEhilated
Feb 17, 2014

But I say fuck the rain.

Grimey Drawer

Bilirubin posted:

Bone Wars by Tom Rea about the turn of last century battlebetween Marsh at Yale and Cope in New York and how Andrew Carnegie wanted his own dinosaurs in Pittsburgh.
Quest for the African Dinosaurs by Louis Jacobs. Recent dinosaur hunting in Mali iirc
Hunting Dinosaurs by Louis Psihoyos--profiles of then current, now aging, dinosaur hunters
Your Inner Fish by Neil Shubin, about the finding of Tiktaalik in part.
Living Fossil by Keith Thompson, about the rediscovery of living coelacanths
Dinosaur Lives by Jack Horner, about whatever the hell Jack was talking about in that book.
These sound perfect, thanks!

anilEhilated fucked around with this message at 08:42 on Oct 26, 2018

Bilirubin
Feb 16, 2014

The sanctioned action is to CHUG


anilEhilated posted:

These sound perfect, thanks!

No problem. These sorts of books are a bit of a cottage industry in paleontology--if you want more recommendations just PM.

Mel Mudkiper
Jan 19, 2012

At this point, Mudman abruptly ends the conversation. He usually insists on the last word.

achtungnight posted:

This is just a general recommendation, not an answer to any request.

I’m reading a book called Herokiller by Paul Tassi. It’s about a Special Ops spy in a dystopian but believable future America sent to compete in a Hunger Games slash Modern Coliseum Gladiator Battle reality show. The show is backed by a tech zillionaire who may be an agent for Communist China. Hero is ultimately supposed to get dirt on and take down the zillionaire. It’s got great writing, compelling characters, very interesting and well established setting... I like it enough to recommend it here even though I’m still in the second of 3 acts. Pick it up if you’re looking for a fun action packed character drama to read.

Hi paul

Splicer
Oct 16, 2006

from hell's heart I cast at thee
🧙🐀🧹🌙🪄🐸
Looking for some apocalypse fiction where the majority if not all of the book takes place as poo poo Is Going Down. I want to read about one or more people holing up in an apartment carefully rationing food for 300 pages.

Bonus round: The primary source of narrative conflict or adversity for our heroes is something that can't be summed up as "and then some rear end in a top hat(s) shows up" or "and then Bill did something inexplicably stupid for absolutely no good reason".

tuyop
Sep 15, 2006

Every second that we're not growing BASIL is a second wasted

Fun Shoe

Splicer posted:

Looking for some apocalypse fiction where the majority if not all of the book takes place as poo poo Is Going Down. I want to read about one or more people holing up in an apartment carefully rationing food for 300 pages.

Bonus round: The primary source of narrative conflict or adversity for our heroes is something that can't be summed up as "and then some rear end in a top hat(s) shows up" or "and then Bill did something inexplicably stupid for absolutely no good reason".

You might dig The Terror by Dan Simmons.

Franchescanado
Feb 23, 2013

If it wasn't for disappointment
I wouldn't have any appointment

Grimey Drawer

Splicer posted:

Looking for some apocalypse fiction where the majority if not all of the book takes place as poo poo Is Going Down. I want to read about one or more people holing up in an apartment carefully rationing food for 300 pages.

Bonus round: The primary source of narrative conflict or adversity for our heroes is something that can't be summed up as "and then some rear end in a top hat(s) shows up" or "and then Bill did something inexplicably stupid for absolutely no good reason".

Station Eleven is pretty good for these.

Splicer
Oct 16, 2006

from hell's heart I cast at thee
🧙🐀🧹🌙🪄🐸

Franchescanado posted:

Station Eleven is pretty good for these.
Station Eleven was going to be my example of a book that's the exact opposite of what I'm looking for. There's a 20 year timeskip over the interesting bits, and the Prophet is the definition of "and then some* rear end in a top hat shows up" as conflict.

*yes I'm aware he's a specific rear end in a top hat

e: That came out a little harsh, I appreciate the recommendation, it's just the polar opposite of what I'm looking for. I was actually very annoyed by Station Eleven. I'm basically looking for the film Contagion, but longer and in book form.

Splicer fucked around with this message at 22:43 on Oct 29, 2018

Selachian
Oct 9, 2012

Splicer posted:

Looking for some apocalypse fiction where the majority if not all of the book takes place as poo poo Is Going Down. I want to read about one or more people holing up in an apartment carefully rationing food for 300 pages.

Bonus round: The primary source of narrative conflict or adversity for our heroes is something that can't be summed up as "and then some rear end in a top hat(s) shows up" or "and then Bill did something inexplicably stupid for absolutely no good reason".

The first thing to come to mind is Lucifer's Hammer, but I can't in all good conscience recommend it. So, uh, On the Beach?

AnonymousNarcotics
Aug 6, 2012

we will go far into the sea
you will take me
onto your back
never look back
never look back

Splicer posted:

Looking for some apocalypse fiction where the majority if not all of the book takes place as poo poo Is Going Down. I want to read about one or more people holing up in an apartment carefully rationing food for 300 pages.

Bonus round: The primary source of narrative conflict or adversity for our heroes is something that can't be summed up as "and then some rear end in a top hat(s) shows up" or "and then Bill did something inexplicably stupid for absolutely no good reason".

Sort of a given here, but how about The Stand?

Action Jacktion
Jun 3, 2003

Splicer posted:

Looking for some apocalypse fiction where the majority if not all of the book takes place as poo poo Is Going Down. I want to read about one or more people holing up in an apartment carefully rationing food for 300 pages.

Bonus round: The primary source of narrative conflict or adversity for our heroes is something that can't be summed up as "and then some rear end in a top hat(s) shows up" or "and then Bill did something inexplicably stupid for absolutely no good reason".

Alas Babylon is about people in a small town dealing with the effects of a nuclear war being fought elsewhere.

When Worlds Collide is about rogues planets causing stuff like earthquakes and tsunamis as scientists try to make a spaceship they can escape in.

Level 7 is about people living in an automated bunker where they are always waiting for the order to fire nuclear missiles (and eventually the order comes, of course).

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Wheat Loaf
Feb 13, 2012

by FactsAreUseless
I recently rewatched the film adaptation of The Assassination Bureau (I haven't read the novel - I'm not conversant with Jack London so if it is worth reading please let me know). It has a secret society, a daring suffragette reporter, a plot to assassinate the crowned heads of Europe and also the President of France (it's set in 1910) and a showdown involving a zeppelin. I was wondering if anyone can recommend any adventure novels which have a similar sort of vibe, or alternatively homages to/pastiches of that kind of storytelling.

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