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AlternateAccount posted:But Deathclaws are mutated chameleons that do not exist east of California. they were genetically engineered pre-war and existed in secret government facilities. That said the master used FEV to make them worse. If Super Mutants are around, a batch of Deathclaws can be around I guess. It would be nice if they'd tone them the gently caress down, though.
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Megazver posted:I just hope this game's devs survive the release and reception of this game. Bethesda/Zenimax are loving loaded. Thats why they are doing this crap
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Oct 22, 2018 23:05
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DoctorGonzo posted:Bethesda/Zenimax are loving loaded. Thats why they are doing this crap Like that will stop them from closing a studio down anyway, just for the gently caress of it. EA is loaded too, they shut down studios they themselves hosed over all the time.
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Oct 22, 2018 23:07
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i wonder if this will be better or worse received than andromeda
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Oct 22, 2018 23:09
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Megazver posted:Like that will stop them from closing a studio down anyway, just for the gently caress of it. EA is loaded too, they shut down studios they themselves hosed over all the time. I guess until recently they haven't had much outside help.
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Oct 22, 2018 23:10
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Holy smokes that letter reads like a pre-emptive answer to "Yeah but what do you do in Fallout 76?" Well having fun is up to you! The players will figure it out.
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Oct 22, 2018 23:11
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DoctorGonzo posted:
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Psychotic Weasel posted:Has Bethesda ever closed a studio? (Apart from sticking a fork in Interplay all those years ago) I was gonna say Human Head Studios with Prey 2, but apparently HHS is still alive and kicking.
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Clawtopsy posted:i wonder if this will be better or worse received than andromeda Oh wow, are things really looking THAT bad?
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Space Cadet Omoly posted:Oh wow, are things really looking THAT bad? They are now.
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My prediction: No matter what the game looks like, it will play better than Underworld Ascendant which releases on the same day.
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quote:And that with Fallout 76, you too are left wondering "What, exactly, is this?" I can't believe that's a thing they actually wrote to address fans concerns about what this game is the week it's launching, lol.
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Oct 22, 2018 23:17
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Predicting now Red Dead Redemption 2 will be a hurricane that smashes all other games this season, and a better open world/mp game than Fallout 76
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That letter reinforces what I've suspected about the twitter posts that people thought were NPCs. I always thought Bethesda was saying that in Fallout 76 you'd be making your own stories. So : https://twitter.com/Fallout/status/1054044075769380864 Is some player character's, head-cannon backstory.
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But that doesn't make sense, because the backstory of all player characters in 76 is "you came from vault 76"
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Oct 22, 2018 23:23
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That letter is pretty much a tacit admittance that the game is not finished and still has a ton of issues that are absolutely not gonna get fixed in time for release. Ridiculous.
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Oct 22, 2018 23:24
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DoctorGonzo posted:
"Where we're going, we don't need gameplay to be entertained." Todd Howard, his hollow eye sockets and ears spewing a black viscous substance [10/22/18]
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ccubed posted:That letter reinforces what I've suspected about the twitter posts that people thought were NPCs. I always thought Bethesda was saying that in Fallout 76 you'd be making your own stories. Most definitely those descriptions only matter if they have some grounding in the world of the game.. Which they won't. How many people are going to pick up this game thinking it's more fallout before angrily giving it a zero on metacritic "WHERE ARE THE OTHER PEOPLE"
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ccubed posted:That letter reinforces what I've suspected about the twitter posts that people thought were NPCs. I always thought Bethesda was saying that in Fallout 76 you'd be making your own stories. that's way too coherent to be a player character's backstory here's one I just found on r/fallout quote:I was fresh out the vault when I met the minute men.After the glorious felling of beating a deathclaw I felt untouchable.I followed there quest line the came then taking of the castle.I thought it was gonna be a piece of cake with the thought of the dead deathclaw in my mind I went right away.We got there and cleansing the place of the mirelurks was hard enough for my low level character.When the queen first showed her face I thought "No big deal cant be harder then a deathclaw".I ran out to it and got killed.I did this 3 times before getting the thought through my thick skull this isn't working.I thought lets look for that missile launcher i found earlier but I soon realized an unwanted guest was still around as another mierlurk peered around a corner.I tried to kill it but loss more health then I could spare. Completely dismissing the rocket launcher I tried to fight the beast.I tried for hours playing from late afternoon into the night.What was my 20th attempt felt like my 100th but the abomination was low and I took my chance.The beast was finally destroyed thinking good loot was on its corpse all i found was a pipe sniper rifle which didnt compare to my rifle I got from the street vendor in diamond city.I was devastated and vowed to kill every mirelurk queen I found in the capital waste
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I mean, bethesda delivering half baked broken games that are straight badly designed in many ways then going 'okay make your own fun' describes FO3/4 anyway. FO76 is right in there.
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DoctorGonzo posted:
man, Cream-of-Plenty's troll posts are getting more and more elaborate
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Agent355 posted:I mean, bethesda delivering half baked broken games that are straight badly designed in many ways then going 'okay make your own fun' describes FO3/4 anyway. FO76 is right in there. They're trying to prevent people from moding 76 though, which is gonna be a real problem going forward.
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Popete posted:I can't believe that's a thing they actually wrote to address fans concerns about what this game is the week it's launching, lol. they adressed poo poo "hey guys the game is buggy as gently caress and there is nothing to do" guess what...you are right!
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Oct 22, 2018 23:34
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that letter is quite literally just boilerplate stuff that any live multiplayer game would, and does, say it's dumb for them to actually publish it because the throngs of deranged people whose steam library is only 'fallout: new vegas' are eager to see Todd Howard literally killed, but almost every open-world multiplayer game will produce some kind of community-facing blog post or something that says stuff almost exactly like this
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Oct 22, 2018 23:35
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It literally admits that the game is barely completed and that its your job to find the fun. It's not boilerplate at all.
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A 50S RAYGUN posted:that letter is quite literally just boilerplate stuff that any live multiplayer game would, and does, say I think it may be wise to start picking your battles at this point
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DoctorGonzo posted:
Ahaha they preemptively published an apology for their game being bad
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Credit where credit is due though, Bethseda is basically saying "we've never done anything like this and we know the bugs are going to be new and exciting and probably NUTS" which is true and very fair of them to acknowledge in advance. It sort of reads like someone got a bee in their bonnet to make an open world survival fallout game so they just made it because they could, which I kind of respect.
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quote:We developed all new technologies and services—while bending older technology to do things we didn't think it could. 
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If they know that performance is bad, can't they bump the resolution down a bit on the consoles until it gets fixed? The way that letter is worded makes it sound like they're gonna release the game knowing that it runs badly and then hope to fix it later, which is an odd thing to admit so close to release. I guess they're trying to get ahead of the story a bit because if it really is that buggy and framey in this beta there's gonna be a ton of footage out there that makes the game look not so great.
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Bottom line fallout games aren't that fun to shoot guns in, removing significant mechanics like NPCs, mods, towns, player choice, and VATS doesn't leave much in the gameplay loop. Unless dancing at each other in multiplayer games still does it for you.
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NeurosisHead posted:Credit where credit is due though, Bethseda is basically saying "we've never done anything like this and we know the bugs are going to be new and exciting and probably NUTS" which is true and very fair of them to acknowledge in advance. It sort of reads like someone got a bee in their bonnet to make an open world survival fallout game so they just made it because they could, which I kind of respect. Yeah it reads to me like they never really had a good idea of what this was going to be but they wanted to do something multiplayer, that's perfectly fine. Now that it's about to release they still aren't really sure what they want this game to be but they're banking on players giving them enough input to make it into something fun. It probably started from a good place but it's starting to sound like this should just be entering early access not commercial launch.
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Bardeh posted:If they know that performance is bad, can't they bump the resolution down a bit on the consoles until it gets fixed? The way that letter is worded makes it sound like they're gonna release the game knowing that it runs badly and then hope to fix it later, which is an odd thing to admit so close to release. I guess they're trying to get ahead of the story a bit because if it really is that buggy and framey in this beta there's gonna be a ton of footage out there that makes the game look not so great. Bumping resolution down only works if the game is mostly GPU bound. If the game is CPU bound, or even worse, CPU bound on a single core because it is running on a janky engine with multiplayer jammed in, you can't do anything.
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Agent355 posted:It literally admits that the game is barely completed and that its your job to find the fun. It's not boilerplate at all. you could probably Ctrl f almost any blog post from the division, destiny, Warframe etc's launch and find almost these exact words. it's not good but live games are almost never released 'finished' and generally rely on player population returning once their game is 'fixed'. this isn't a defense of the doubtlessly very flawed game fallout 76 will be at launch, just that it won't be very different from any other shared-world shooter that we've seen.
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Bardeh posted:That letter is pretty much a tacit admittance that the game is not finished and still has a ton of issues that are absolutely not gonna get fixed in time for release. Ridiculous. Saladin Rising posted:Honestly this is a big part of where my disappointment with FO:76 originates. Everything I've seen so far has has basically re-affirmed my initial impression that this was just a half-assed cash grab built around Fallout 4 multiplayer that Bethesda decided to rebrand as a full game. I do find it funny that Bethesda themselves acknowledged in that letter that their games are buggy as poo poo, and that they'll have to do regular bugfixes of FO:76 rather than just saying "Yay the game's out, we're done!" and leaving it up to fans/modders to do bugfixes.
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A 50S RAYGUN posted:you could probably Ctrl f almost any blog post from the division, destiny, Warframe etc's launch and find almost these exact words. but none of those games when released were particularly janky at all. I played all three and they were generally very polished out of the box.
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DoctorGonzo posted:
I find ironic to read this note about a game where every quest will be delivered with a note. Like a literal interpretation of the "chinese wall" strategy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_wall I hope the game is good, and even if is broken in a few ways, I believe we all will have fun with it.
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We'll see how buggy it is tomorrow with the beta for xbox. I already pre order for pc. There didn't see to be too much jank from the release 3 hour invited footage. So Im hopefull that it won't be completely bad.
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Agent355 posted:It literally admits that the game is barely completed and that its your job to find the fun. It's not boilerplate at all.
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