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Can we not kill Airy, actually? I don't want to get her Asterisk and see what the four heroes look like as Piercer of Boundaries 
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She probably just has the Fairy asterisk. Hence her being able to turn into a Fairy.
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I appreciate FF: lying airy. That's some good localization.
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Any guess I have about what Airy's true form sounds like is likely vastly inferior to the real thing,..unless it stays the same.
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I'd link to it, but there seem to be no videos of that fight alone. She gets kind of a sinister reverb voice. If you've played Final Fantasy XIV: Heavensward, think "SICKNESS MUST BE PURGED".
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Patter Song posted:The Kusanagi is actually the only one of the Imperial regalia generally admitted by the Japanese to be a replica...the Clan Taira fleet was supposed to have it when Clan Minamoto sent them to the bottom of the sea in the 1185 Battle of Dan-no-Ura. That'd make the current Kusanagi a still-impressive 800 year old replica, if true, but, as with the allegedly original jewel and mirror, the Imperial family refuses to let any of them be carbon-dated...
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Fairy Airy is a normal woman speaking in the exaggerated high-pitch squeak some people use to talk to babies or animals, which has the side effect of making her sound slightly condescending all the time. Evil Airy is the same voice, no longer bothering to be high-pitched for babies, using an Evil machine-gritty voice mod. Patter Song posted:The Kusanagi is actually the only one of the Imperial regalia generally admitted by the Japanese to be a replica...the Clan Taira fleet was supposed to have it when Clan Minamoto sent them to the bottom of the sea in the 1185 Battle of Dan-no-Ura. That'd make the current Kusanagi a still-impressive 800 year old replica, if true, but, as with the allegedly original jewel and mirror, the Imperial family refuses to let any of them be carbon-dated... Neat! Didn't know those details.
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This video pretty much just covers what the last two updates. Via Polsy so you can't see any related videos. https://polsy.org.uk/play/yt/?vurl=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DFPl6I7t2Wb8
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MonsterEnvy posted:This video pretty much just covers what the last two updates. Via Polsy so you can't see any related videos. A warning to anyone watching this, although the video itself is all stuff we've covered (the cutscenes involving breaking the crystal and failing to deal with Airy), the video description contains spoilers.
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... Unrelated to anything in particular, watching that video made me finally realize the meaning behind Ringabel's name. Ringabel. Ring a bell. It's a loving amnesia joke. 
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Oct 17, 2018 05:47
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He does make a nod to that in his introduction.Greyarc posted:
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I've no memory, you see.
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Yeah, the fact that it took me this long to get that is a big part of why I am liberally applying my face to my palm.
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GeminiSun posted:Yeah, the fact that it took me this long to get that is a big part of why I am liberally applying my face to my palm. Edea Lee you'd have gotten it earlier, but at least it finally clicked.
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Greyarc posted:A warning to anyone watching this, although the video itself is all stuff we've covered (the cutscenes involving breaking the crystal and failing to deal with Airy), the video description contains spoilers. I did not even notice that.
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Dirk the Average posted:Edea Lee you'd have gotten it earlier, but at least it finally clicked. Still doesn’t beat the king of this game’s punny names: Braev Lee, the guy who Defaults a lot.
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Now I'm curious to know what would've happened if we just went along with the plan.
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There are a number of early lines that make more sense in hindsight, like Yulyana's surprise on hearing the party plans to awaken the crystals or Olivia having no idea what a Cryst Fairy is. But I really like this exchange Greyarc posted:
just because Tiz almost figured out the plot twist seven chapters in advance within five seconds of meeting Airy.
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Ahh! A miniature monster!
Augh, rude! I am not a miniature monster! I am a cryst-fairy!
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In retrospect, maybe she took offense to the 'miniature' part.
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It's funny to imagine just how sick of the party's poo poo Airy is by this point.
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Justin_Brett posted:It's funny to imagine just how sick of the party's poo poo Airy is by this point. Seriously. She's trying to steer them toward whatever her goal is, and they've spent the whole time being a bunch of clowns. She's probably relishing the chance to kill them.
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BearDrivingTruck posted:Seriously. She's trying to steer them toward whatever her goal is, and they've spent the whole time being a bunch of clowns. She's probably relishing the chance to kill them. also she's dealt with god knows how many tiz's, agnes' and edea's
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BearDrivingTruck posted:Seriously. She's trying to steer them toward whatever her goal is, and they've spent the whole time being a bunch of clowns. She's probably relishing the chance to kill them. Strictly speaking she already did.
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Jerry Manderbilt posted:also she's dealt with god knows how many tiz's, agnes' and edea's No wonder she's angry about you doing sidequests later on. Imagine having to go through that an endless number of times.
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Don't think of this LP as a completionist run, think of it as an 'annoy Airy as much as humanly possible' run. Edit: Also, update will be up shortly.
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:No wonder she's angry about you doing sidequests later on. Imagine having to go through that an endless number of times. Especially given how low the number on her wings has gotten and because this particular party she was able to reuse through three whole cycles with the opportunity to fast track. "Come on, do we really have to kill the pirate and the pop star again? Let's just ignite the crystals again!"
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Patter Song posted:Especially given how low the number on her wings has gotten and because this particular party she was able to reuse through three whole cycles with the opportunity to fast track. Now I’m just thinking that Airy is Flowey’s long lost cousin.
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 Is this a joke? Are you brain dead? OPEN. THE.  Holy Pillar.
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Entry 98: Here Flies the Turnabout Fairy It's our fault.  Under Airy's guidance, the barrier between the worlds weakened every time we awakened a crystal.  Once the barrier had opened a crack -- the Pillar of Light -- we traveled blissfully through, crashing into the next world near the city of Caldisla.  Each time, we brought a host of demons, as the dimensional opening we used to travel became the Great Chasm in the next world.  We can't reverse the destruction we've caused. All we can do is keep it from getting worse. Airy's hiding in the Dark Aurora hanging above the chasm, and we're going after her.   Is Airy inside!? But, how do we......That's a good question. Maybe we should've thought this through? The aurora does seem pretty uncorporeal from this side...  Oh, that's hamhandedly convenient.  Alright, if everyone's ready, let's go after Airy! Despite what you might think, the residents of Caldisla haven't noticed the evil aurora rave going on next door.  The party steps on the explicitly designated magical platform sized just for them. Meanwhile, far above(?), Airy watches...  Still, your luck is my good fortune. You've left me to wait five thousand years while the next crystal grows... At least I will have your shrieks and lamentations to pass the time.If Airy ever harbored anything approaching goodwill towards Agnès, Tiz, Edea, and Ringabel, she evidently burned out on them over the course of however many times she went through the worlds. But enough about her. It's time for the final dungeon! What color of tepid hallways will we wander through now?  Purple. But it's also new and interesting, with shreds of land ripped away from who knows what world, pieces of modern machinery still clinging on. We've seen this aesthetic before with the summons.  The monsters here are the most demonic-looking yet, which makes sense given this is their source. How they got from here to the crystal temples, including the one in the active volcano, is a mystery.  These fellows are also the last non-boss bestiary entries.  They're very strong if they get the chance to attack. Luckily, the party gets by with a strategy of killing everything immediately.  If you aren't overpowered, this place is doesn't just have Nightmares, it is a nightmare!  The dungeon, which consists of islands floating in the grim post-apocalyptic cloudscape, uses glowy pads to transfer between floors.  We've raided the bonus dungeon, but there are still a few final treasures left to find. Given where this dimension's been, this stuff could be from anywhere!  One of Bravely Default's strengths is that none of the dungeons are overly long. On the contrary -- this is one of the longest dungeons, and it has a whopping six floors, none of which are more complex than this.  Of course, given the repetition, you still get sick of traveling through, say, the five screens between the world map and the fire temple -- but in any other JRPG the dungeons would be considered simple, short, and sweet.   The downside is the reuse of assets, but they do at least pull out the stops here. The designs of the final dungeon and Ancheim show the game's art team at their most inspired.  A few of the treasures here were also in Dimension's Hasp. The copies here, of course, would have been beyond Yulyana's reach.  Luckily we don't have to choose between this or a dancing moogle.  Speaking of Final Fantasy, here's another classic staple. The innocently named Ribbon is in every main numbered game except Final Fantasy 14 plus many offshoots and is usually one of the most powerful defensive accessories.  This dungeon pretends to be maze-like, teleporting from the 3rd floor to the 6th, back to the 4th and so on, but it's short enough to still be straightforward.  It includes a brief optional stop at floor 5 to pick up yet more treasure.  The aegis belonged to Athena, one of the principle gods of Greek myth and daughter of Zeus. The noted enhancement was the head of Medusa, a monster with a woman's body and snakes for hair.  Higher up in the Aurora, the party finds more failed birdfriends.  Along with other extremely deadly buddies. Good thing the toughest demons stayed at home instead of wreaking havoc on Luxendarc.  If the party had encountered these earlier, they might not have gotten so far in their journey. Bet Airy had to go through some trial and error in her first few worlds, making sure her vestal team survived demons but got strong enough to fight their way to the Pillar.  Continued: Overclocking, wchich accelerates its movement. Evidence the demons take as well as give. Just how sophisticated is demon culture? What do they do aside from hang around in the sky and find ways to kill people?  A question for another day, because we're almost at the end.  Here in this literal apocalyptic hellscape outside the bounds of time and space, it's just us and Adventurer. Good to know it gets worse.  I mean, you know, there was a small hope it would get better.  But chances are Airy won't change her mind. The party's gotten involved in something far, far larger than their mortal friendship.   Hm. A final boss arena.  Hmmmmm. Demonic, but also strangely reminiscent of a blooming flower.  HI THERE AIRY KNOCK KNOCK  ...... Is this truly you that stands before me? Can you not change back to the fairy we knew? Agnès, how can you not see it now? Show her no opening. She'll wield it against you. But...Airy, did you truly intend for this to happen all along? Tell me it's not so. Wh-what of our fateful meeting, our travels together? Do such things mean nothing to you? If we could go back... If you could turn back into... Ungh...uuuuh... What now!?Airy's voice sounds...different. The evil larva voice is still there, but suddenly the fairy Airy's voice is coming through too. It's almost like...  Almost like Airy the fairy is trapped somewhere inside, separate from the evil larva monster.  Airy? Aaah...help... Aaaaaah... That was Airy's voice! Agnès... Don't tell me...! Help me... It's taking...control. Can't...fight... Airy!Maybe we were wrong in more ways than we thought. Airy wasn't the bad guy -- she was possessed somehow by this demon! Airy was our friend all along, and we can save her!  Or not. ...! No! Humans? Bah! What dull, foolish creatures--lowly life forms incapable of learning. And a crystal vestal is the worst of the lot. How easy it was to deceive you in the form of a cute little fairy. Ha ha ha ha ha! ...... *sob* You repeat the same mistake world after world. Then, too, you trusted me to the very end, denying the truth before your eyes. ...No! At least you're not squealing like stuck pigs this time, though that's hardly progress. Airy, in countless worlds you've deceived us. Slain countless innocents...  And it is true, I've been a fool the whole while. I still wish for us to be friends, somehow... But I am done playing the fool! We will break this chain--this cycle of misery across thousands and thousands of worlds!Here's something we know by now: If you've made an enemy of Agnès, you've gotta be doing something pretty terrible.  And once you tick off Agnès, she and her friends are going to make sure you regret it. You had your final chance, Airy.  As you might hope from the buildup, her Slaughter attack no longer insta-kills the party. In fact, she's fairly easy if you've made it this far.  Protection from status effects is a must, with the added bonus of reminding Airy of what real fairies look like. Navi may have been irritating to some, but you can't deny that she at least tried to be good and helpful.   To touch on gameplay briefly, the party's using Slow World and a BP battery to basically provide infinite turns to the party while taking away half of Airy's turns.  This is just one method. With all jobs unlocked and leveled to max, there are lots of options for how to make bosses like Airy child's play.  Once Airy's low on health she pulls out of combat. But how will you stand up to this!? Uh oh! Unavoidable cutscene attack?  No. Wait...  Ah right, multiple boss forms. Obviously.  Ahhh, how many worlds has it been since last I took this form? Hundreds of thousands of years have passed without the need. It feels a bit foreign, yet... But no matter, heh heh heh. Now, you mightiest of all warriors of light, face the full extent of my power!Despite Airy's boasting, at this point the party is less frightened and more ticked off.  This is reflected in gameplay: if you know how to handle her, this version of Airy is more showy but even easier to beat, as we'll see shortly.  My father and Master Kamiizumi warned us of you. Now, too late, I see the fool I've been. Those who act by emotion are the easiest to master. I pity your father. Eternia is made up of a bunch of muscleheads who would rather kill themselves than admit they made a single mistake. Edea narrowly escaped from that, and most lingering effects on her psyche will hopefully improve with time and experience. I'll never forgive you for violating Agnès's trust! Always the same. Always about Agnès. I hate that about you most of all!Beneath her arrogant yet chipper surface, Airy was a typical demon. She not only had no love for the party, she hated the very concept of love. She had no patience for the party's humanity, and when the going got rough she made it clear what really mattered: their use as pawns.  With proper job use, Airy can't get a hit in and the party can act infinitely, bringing the battle to a complete standstill if they so choose.  But I don't have the patience nor lifespan to keep Airy locked in combat for 5,000 years, so the party shortly resumes fighting. But all your efforts shall be in vain!After bringing Airy's health down the first time, she taunts them and does a full heal on herself.  She actually has less health than a lot of the Eternian bosses we've been fighting lately. Also, note her icon lists her as Bug type, not Demon.  In Airy's second phase, she casts debuffs on the party and pulls out all the stops on her attacks.  Flare... You mortals shall know your place! Charm... This isn't what happens... How... How are they different from the last? We first met on that precipice overlooking the Great Chasm. You had come forth from the chasm's depths. But you had only just slain us! Our blood had yet to dry! Indeed, you have served me well. Now, die a bitter death knowing you served your enemy! ...Unacceptable!! It's a bit of a one-sided fight. Warriors of light, bah! Mere mortals! Pawns! You shall pay dearly for this defiance!Then Edea stabbed the bug.  Take that, bug masquerading as a demon masquerading as a fairy! Friendship and power gained by slaughtering thousands once again saves the day!   Next: One ends, one continues. -- Event Viewer Main Scenario: The Dark Aurora Airy's Wrath Lying Airy Airy's Hideous Form 
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I love how unremorseful Airy is about not only killing the party, not only planning to torture the party, but just outright dashing any mild hope that she might have actually been decent underneath all of the manipulation. What a jerk. I also love how Airy basically calls Tiz out about being angry for Agnes' sake and not, I dunno, his destroyed village and dead little brother. Come on, man. Finally, I believe Ringabel has a line to Airy in there somewhere, but you seemed to have killed her before it triggered. https://polsy.org.uk/play/yt/?vurl=https%3A%2F%2Fm.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Du3X9rT7ggfQ (Dark Aurora) https://polsy.org.uk/play/yt/?vurl=https%3A%2F%2Fm.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D0z8t8cLr748 (Airy Battle #2) https://polsy.org.uk/play/yt/?vurl=https%3A%2F%2Fm.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DvHeuR_bC9GM (Airy Battle #3) [If you listen to any song, make sure it's this one. This was actually featured in a Theatrhythm game!] Blueberry Pancakes fucked around with this message at 04:04 on Oct 23, 2018 |
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'boy it sure was nice being able to cutscene kill all of you at once' Bye Airy!
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It took you two years, but you beat Bravely Default.
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Also yeah popping back in to mention that Wicked Flight (Airy Battle 3) is one of the absolute best music tracks in the game.
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#3. Wicked Thing from the last update is #1 and Wicked Battle is #2.
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I just wanted to say that the fact that an edgelord like Alternis turns into someone like Ringabel is pretty amazing and funny. I know Greyarc explained his personality and development, but still. After all, I highly doubt Mr. Dark knight would ever go around hitting on other women.
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Well, he goes around hitting on Edea, at least. 
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See I just think of it the other way around- just how lovely a childhood does it take to turn a foppish goofball like Ringabel into an ultragoth fueled by his own suffering. Dude.
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I never put together that the Great Chasm and Holy Pillar were linked before you spelled it out. I'm kind of dumb. This might also be dumb, but I was under the impression that Airy and Agnes have been together for a very long time, but the scenes here imply that she also enters each world through the Great Chasm, so does that mean that she and Agnes met, say, very shortly before Tiz ended up finding her in the very beginning of the game? Or am I misunderstanding?
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Alxprit posted:I never put together that the Great Chasm and Holy Pillar were linked before you spelled it out. I'm kind of dumb. This might also be dumb, but I was under the impression that Airy and Agnes have been together for a very long time, but the scenes here imply that she also enters each world through the Great Chasm, so does that mean that she and Agnes met, say, very shortly before Tiz ended up finding her in the very beginning of the game? Or am I misunderstanding? You’re right, Airy goes through a whole cycle of tricking some incarnation of the party into helping her awaken the four crystals, murdering them when they start catching on, and moving on to the next just after their Great Chasm appears. Though now I wonder what would happen if she finished with step 2, made her way through the Pillar... And came out in a world where both the party and all of the vestals are already dead.
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