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I have a question: A New Hope is partly an homage to movie serials from the 1940s; has anyone ever tried cutting the movie up and turning it into a serial?
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Oct 24, 2018 23:28
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Wheat Loaf posted:I have a question: A New Hope is partly an homage to movie serials from the 1940s; has anyone ever tried cutting the movie up and turning it into a serial? Check out the radio dramas if you haven't. They're split up very similarly to one.
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Oct 24, 2018 23:36
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What in the God drat world is happening
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Oct 25, 2018 00:59
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Wheat Loaf posted:Maybe the planet that got blown up in TFA was actually Alderaan 2 or New Alderaan because I don't think anyone particularly cared when the original got blown up either. hey now, obi-wan cared a lot because it gave him indigestion briefly
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Oct 25, 2018 01:12
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sponges posted:TLJ only real accomplishment is finally killing of Palpatine after TFA needlessly brought him back from the dead. Finally, some new crazy poo poo! Your doing the Lord's work. Just add some screencaps
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Oct 25, 2018 01:38
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sponges posted:TLJ only real accomplishment is finally killing of Palpatine after TFA needlessly brought him back from the dead. 
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Oct 25, 2018 01:52
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Snoke appears as a giant hologram and we've only seen one other character who does that, so they must be the same person. People change their names all the time.
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Oct 25, 2018 02:13
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PostNouveau posted:Snoke appears as a giant hologram and we've only seen one other character who does that, so they must be the same person. It literally is. Literally.
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Oct 25, 2018 02:36
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sponges posted:It literally is. Literally. 
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Oct 25, 2018 02:45
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Okay now that the Coruscant/Hosnian Prime debacle has cooled a little and before the thread can go into another discussion on the personhood of droids, can we talk about how the entire gently caress an Actual Gothic Novel Villain ended up in this dumb space fantasy? Kylo Ren just is so tonally dissonant from the rest of Star Wars. He really feels like he ought to be brooding on the moors instead of stalking around space stations. The attraction/repulsion dynamic he has with Rey is also very reminiscent of a gothic novel villain/heroine relationship. The whole “maybe they’re related???” thing that some people can’t let go of adds to it too.
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Oct 25, 2018 03:36
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Doctor Faustine posted:Okay now that the Coruscant/Hosnian Prime debacle has cooled a little and before the thread can go into another discussion on the personhood of droids, can we talk about how the entire gently caress an Actual Gothic Novel Villain ended up in this dumb space fantasy? In my mind, Kylo Ren justifies the entire Sequel Trilogy.
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Oct 25, 2018 03:51
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kylo ren is in this weird place where he's both the antagonist and yet somehow more of a protagonist than rey is for whatever reason, we're shackled to rey despite the fact that these films have overwhelmingly been about ren's journey
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Oct 25, 2018 03:57
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Doctor Faustine posted:Okay now that the Coruscant/Hosnian Prime debacle has cooled a little and before the thread can go into another discussion on the personhood of droids, can we talk about how the entire gently caress an Actual Gothic Novel Villain ended up in this dumb space fantasy? Kylo Ren owns
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Oct 25, 2018 03:59
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Strange Matter posted:I dunno but it's super cool. I know some people think that it's overwrought but I was utterly engaged every second the two of them were on screen together, and I felt genuine suspense over whether she'd accept his offer to join forces. I legitimately think the ST would be leagues better if they gutted everything unrelated to Kylo and Rey and just made it a straight up gothic romance in space. And like ideally got Guillermo del Toro to direct, because dude is great at gothic romance and would also have brought more creativity to the background aliens.
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Oct 25, 2018 03:59
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You can have multiple protagonists in a movie. Regardless tho TLJ is indeed mostly about Kylo Ren and Luke.
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Oct 25, 2018 03:59
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How many times has the capital been moved? And why didn’t they move it someplace secret before the New Order built another Death Star?!?
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Oct 25, 2018 04:05
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At first I thought smoke was just some giant guy and was disappointed when he was revealed to just be a hologram.
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Oct 25, 2018 04:07
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MrMojok posted:How many times has the capital been moved? And why didn’t they move it someplace secret before the New Order built another Death Star?!? At minimum 3 times; we know it was on Chandrilla, Nakadia, and Hosnian Prime And as far as we know, the First Order has never built a Death Star. Starkiller Base was, however, a secret weapon. The Resistance knew the First Order was massing a fleet and other war apparatus..but the New Republic refused to consider the First Order a threat.
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Oct 25, 2018 04:09
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Strange Matter posted:I dunno but it's super cool. I know some people think that it's overwrought but I was utterly engaged every second the two of them were on screen together, and I felt genuine suspense over whether she'd accept his offer to join forces. I agree with "overwrought," but I really think of it as a positive characteristic in this context. This is Star Wars; it should be overwrought!
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Oct 25, 2018 04:11
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Schwarzwald posted:I agree with "overwrought," but I really think of it as a positive characteristic in this context. This is Star Wars; it should be overwrought! I also agree. Star Wars is at its most fun when it’s overwrought and melodramatic, which is why it’s a shame that the ST wastes time on things that aren’t Kylo Ren and Rey. I do wish Rey was given a bit deeper characterization and:or better acted, though. Adam Driver knocks it out of the park and I’m not really sure Daisy Ridley is on his level, though it could just be that the writing for her isn’t as strong.
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Oct 25, 2018 04:16
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Man, I wish they'd brought P Spliffy back.
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Oct 25, 2018 04:29
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Tatooine and jakku are the same planet
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Oct 25, 2018 04:41
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Doctor Faustine posted:Okay now that the Coruscant/Hosnian Prime debacle has cooled a little and before the thread can go into another discussion on the personhood of droids, can we talk about how the entire gently caress an Actual Gothic Novel Villain ended up in this dumb space fantasy? ... Holy poo poo. I hadn't caught that bit of aesthetic mixture, but it's a really interesting addition to the landscape, mixing that sort of melodrama villain into the cowboy-jidaigeki/Flash Gordon smoothie that is Star Wars.
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Oct 25, 2018 04:46
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Doctor Faustine posted:Okay now that the Coruscant/Hosnian Prime debacle has cooled a little and before the thread can go into another discussion on the personhood of droids, can we talk about how the entire gently caress an Actual Gothic Novel Villain ended up in this dumb space fantasy? yeah this is a big part of why he's the most engaging character in the disney movies; him being his own genre character shoved into space opera is far more fitting with george 'let's mash up edo japan and ww2 dogfighting and everything else i like in space' lucas' universe
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Oct 25, 2018 04:49
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I’ll be honest, Kylo Ren makes me feel like it’s a shame that Star Wars has to be so family friendly because I feel like the character would be even more interesting if they could afford to play up the psychosexual aspects of a Gothic Novel Villain a bit more, but let’s be real: the throne room fight scene with him and Rey is the closest Star Wars will ever come to depicting sex.
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Oct 25, 2018 04:54
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Doctor Faustine posted:I also agree. Star Wars is at its most fun when it’s overwrought and melodramatic, which is why it’s a shame that the ST wastes time on things that aren’t Kylo Ren and Rey. With Kylo, we have a good idea what he's about and what he's after. Rey is a much more baffling character. In TFA she shows this strong desires to live peacefully and grow old on [sand dune planet] that conflicts with the whole chosen one BS Maz tries to sell her, and then rather than resolve that tension the story just kind of sets it aside. In TLJ she doesn't quite know why she should train under Luke, or even if she wants to train under Luke. She and Luke take turns being confused why she's there. Her thing with Kylo goes a similar way, too. Past the force-texting thing, the two of them meet up, topple a regime, and then she decides she doesn't want to be a part of that either. So, what does Rey want? Maybe movie number three will tell us.
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Oct 25, 2018 04:55
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Doctor Faustine posted:I’ll be honest, Kylo Ren makes me feel like it’s a shame that Star Wars has to be so family friendly because I feel like the character would be even more interesting if they could afford to play up the psychosexual aspects of a Gothic Novel Villain a bit more, but let’s be real: the throne room fight scene with him and Rey is the closest Star Wars will ever come to sex. in regards to psychosexuality and actual sex in Star Wars films: Attack of the Clones
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Oct 25, 2018 04:58
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She's Rey-ghteen, she just doesn't know what she wants
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Oct 25, 2018 04:59
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Schwarzwald posted:in regards to psychosexuality and actual sex in Star Wars films: I’ll be honest, I haven’t seen Attack of the Clones since it came out and I was ten years old then, so whatever’s there went over my head. Enlighten me?
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Oct 25, 2018 05:00
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Doctor Faustine posted:I’ll be honest, I haven’t seen Attack of the Clones since it came out and I was ten years old then, so whatever’s there went over my head. Enlighten me? Oh man you have to watch it again it’s great. There is a Roman gladiator scene with a vagina monster.
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Oct 25, 2018 05:06
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Doctor Faustine posted:I’ll be honest, I haven’t seen Attack of the Clones since it came out and I was ten years old then, so whatever’s there went over my head. Enlighten me? "Machines making machines. How perverse."
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Oct 25, 2018 05:09
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Doctor Faustine posted:Okay now that the Coruscant/Hosnian Prime debacle has cooled a little and before the thread can go into another discussion on the personhood of droids, can we talk about how the entire gently caress an Actual Gothic Novel Villain ended up in this dumb space fantasy? Yeah, it's wild that he's the most interesting thing of the movies, and no one knows what to make of him. Like the cut joke of him being a "spoiled brat" in Wreck it Ralph? The films show his dad was such a deadbeat and his mom was so obsessed with her career that they shipped him off to his weird monk uncle, who tried to murder him in his sleep. Even big daddy Snoke abuses him, fuckin' spoiled by who?
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Oct 25, 2018 05:18
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Doctor Faustine posted:the throne room fight scene with him and Rey is the closest Star Wars will ever come to depicting sex. 
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Oct 25, 2018 05:23
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Touché.
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Oct 25, 2018 05:24
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 Jivjov posted:You realize that there's more to the canon beyond the films, right? And even if you thought "WOW THAT WAS CORUSCANT BECAUSE I CANNOT COMPREHEND THE IDEA OF TWO DIFFERENT PLANETS HAVING A CITY ON THEM!!!!!!!!!!1111!111", one google search can correct your misinformation. How the hell are this many people so aggressively BAD at basic comprehension tasks? Like...even if you didn't get it from the movie itself, I've posted maps, I've posted screenshots, I've posted Wookieepedia articles....like, what is it gonna take for you people to admit YOU'RE WRONG? Common sense? The Aftermath Trilogy? Bloodline? The Galactic Atlas? The canonical map of the galaxy? the factual content of the universe? 11 films, 3 TV shows, a couple dozen books, hundreds of comic issues and MORE? In other news, did y'all know that it's a factual part of the star wars universe that a secret super-force-sensitive clone trooper who once fought a group of young sith apprentices named the Badawans was instrumental in completing Luke's training by helping him steal a holocron from Darth Vader? Star Wars is wild, man
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Oct 25, 2018 06:28
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Pablo Hidalgo, this name keeps comin' up over and over and over again. Every day Pablo's mail's getting sent back to me. Pablo Hidalgo, Pablo Hidalgo, I look in the mail, this whole box is Pablo Hidalgo! So I say to myself I gotta find this guy. I gotta go up to his office, I gotta put his mail in the guy's goddamn hands! Otherwise he's never gonna get it, it's gonna keep coming back down here. So I go up to Pablo's office and what do I find out, Mac, what do I find out? There is no Pablo Hidalgo. The man does not exist, okay? So I decided, ohh poo poo, buddy, I gotta dig a little deeper. There's no Pablo Hidalgo, you gotta be kidding me, I got boxes full of Pablo! All right, so I start marching my way down to Kathleen in the Story Group and I knock on her door and I say, "Kaaathleeen, Kaaathleeen! I gotta talk to you about Pablo!" And when I open the door, what do I find? There's not a single goddamn desk in that office. There is no Kathleen in the Story Group. Mac, half the employees in this building have been made up. This office is a goddamn ghost town.
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Oct 25, 2018 06:43
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You people need jobs.
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Oct 25, 2018 06:49
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Hidalgo was born in Santiago de Chile and raised in Winnipeg, Canada.[1] In 1987 he became a fan of the role-playing game (RPG) resources published West End Games, the only official source of Star Wars content in the late 1980s and took it upon himself to become knowledgeable of the universe to create better stories for the group of friends he was playing it with. He later used both content from the RPG and ideas he developed for his gaming sessions within official Star Wars media, such as the tracking device used by the Inquisitor and the name of a ship in Star Wars Rebels.[2] He submitted content for West End Games' Star Wars Adventure Journal in 1993. Although rejected because he was not a published author at the time, his correspondence with the company resulted in him being hired as a cartoonist for the magazine by Peter Schweighofer.[1] Since he was now a published author, he was allowed to publish material for the RPG as well as stories in the magazine.[3] During his involvement, he collected the first large-scale database of Star Wars knowledge, parts of which he posted online in 1997 as the "Star Wars Index". He also used his extensive knowledge to assist Steve Sansweet with fact-checking the Star Wars Encyclopedia, the first such work published shortly before the release of the Star Wars prequel trilogy.[2]
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Oct 25, 2018 07:01
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The question is what happens when the Story Group has an input in communicating something that makes artistic use of ambiguity (for example, a film)? Surely we can't count all of the Story Group's speech acts as straightforward or transparent.
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Oct 25, 2018 07:46
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J_RBG posted:The question is what happens when the Story Group has an input in communicating something that makes artistic use of ambiguity (for example, a film)? Surely we can't count all of the Story Group's speech acts as straightforward or transparent. I think the disconnect is that cannon functions as an interpretation. However, what cannon is, effectively, is a wiki. That is to say, an encyclopedia. And as Wikipedia will remind you, but questionably enforce, an encyclopedia is not a place for original interpretation. Because cannon functions largely as a means of navigating the secondary material, it is possible for an interpretation limited to the films to contradict cannon, since the interpretation admits a narrower scope of evidence. That's alright, neither is concerned with that. Hodgepodge fucked around with this message at 09:44 on Oct 25, 2018 |
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