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Embrace change  I do think the ghosts look cool, though.
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I'm willing to embrace change such as adding Vampirates or Not-China, but don't ever talk to me or my.son about Age of Sigmar again.
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Oct 25, 2018 13:48
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This is a really dumb post. Cathay as it is now is a blank slate and CA has thousands of years of myth, literature and actual loving history to draw upon if they decide to add it. They can easily make it recognizably Chinese while also letting it be it's own thing. Warhammer isn't some inimitable work of art, it's a collection of lore thrown together by British nerds to sell overpriced resin army men.
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Oct 25, 2018 14:04
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Hey, Total War is the last chance to expand the lore and setting of the old Warhammer Fantasy setting. Might as well encourage them to make something new and cool for 3. There's so few big factions left CA's going to have to do something like that if they want to meet their DLC quota
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Oct 25, 2018 14:19
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Cathay is lame and boring. Add Ind instead, you cowards. 
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Oct 25, 2018 14:23
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Lt. Lizard posted:Cathay is lame and boring. Add Ind instead, you cowards. why_not_both.gif
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Oct 25, 2018 14:33
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Late reply to some folks looking for a good campaign walkthrough(s). I've discovered a guy named VulcanHD on youtube who streams Steel Division quite frequently, but also has loads of Warhammer Total War Campaign videos. Very mild tone of voice, about the calmest guy under (vidyagame) pressure I've ever seen. Sexy english accent.
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Oct 25, 2018 14:52
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CA should follow the lead of the board game Chaos in the Old World and make a separate faction for each chaos god.
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Oct 25, 2018 14:53
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Lt. Lizard posted:Cathay is lame and boring. Add Ind instead, you cowards. What's even in Ind? Cathay has terracotta robots, which is at least something. Impermanent posted:CA should follow the lead of the board game Chaos in the Old World and make a separate faction for each chaos god. Wasn't that the plan per the game one development leak?
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Oct 25, 2018 14:57
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I dont know posted:What's even in Ind? Cathay has terracotta robots, which is at least something. Civilized beastmen who are a regular part of society including tiger dudes, apparently. Also war elephants.
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Oct 25, 2018 15:00
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It's maddening how WH2 went from playing perfectly to crashing on tabbing out to crashing immediately after start-up in the space of a day for no discernable reason, and I've tried everything short of a fresh Windows install to fix it. Oh well, at least WH1 works fine more or less 
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Oct 25, 2018 16:00
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god warhammer 1 is so good. I want to buy all the DLC but I'm like one hundred percent sure it'll all be on a discount when the vampire coast dlc comes out.
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Oct 25, 2018 16:49
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Impermanent posted:god warhammer 1 is so good. I want to buy all the DLC but I'm like one hundred percent sure it'll all be on a discount when the vampire coast dlc comes out. wh1 performance is a lot better than ME. They really need the smaller map and just be okay with it being a crowded chaotic mess, as the gods intended.
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Oct 25, 2018 16:51
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1st_Panzer_Div. posted:wh1 performance is a lot better than ME. They really need the smaller map and just be okay with it being a crowded chaotic mess, as the gods intended. eh i don't really care about that to be honest. I've got a beefy gaming PC I just don't want to drop 60+ bux on Warhammer II + all DLC
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Oct 25, 2018 16:54
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IMO for ME they should have just added all the legendary lords as seperate factions then maybe one jobber redshirt faction for each of them to beat up at the start. Make each faction start with more territory if it makes sense. The real issue was them just making it incredibly huge and having more factions than ever before, thats actually not a great thing for a total war game unless you have some optimisation magic which they didnt. Having some rando factions to beat up is fun but not when it means there are like 70 minor factions you'll never encounter but whose turns you need to wait for. Though after reading people's responses in this thread it seems that some people like the huge map and can tolerate having to spend most of your playtime hoovering or alphabetising your liquor cabinet or whatever while the game scrolls through 100+ factions you won't see and then you finally stop hoovering to come back and hit End Turn again cause its 3 more turns til you can recruit chaos warriors. Since I can't see CA making 3 campaigns for WH3 (Small, vortex style campaign; ME huge slow terrible campaign; streamlined good ME campaign) we're probably just gonna get one or the other and I'd put my money on an even slower, worse ME with 200 factions and 5 minute turn times. At least the grognards will enjoy it but since I don't have any grace or class I 'ope you lot choke on it!
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Oct 25, 2018 17:05
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I mean, ME was originally gonna involve a fairly truncated list of factions, but people wanted it all, so there you go. 
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Oct 25, 2018 17:08
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With Warhammer in particular I feel like the minor factions don’t really need to be generic things just there to be punching bags for great powers. Surely they all have aome sort of lore and unique things behind them, or at least most. So I like them in there so that either mods can mess with that stuff or, hopefully, CA can gradually expand on them.
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Oct 25, 2018 17:22
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This series could most use rome and attila style campaign scenarios, but unfortunately they seem to be out of scope as it moves onto the backburner. ME is basically unplayable, and my rig is no slouch
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I think in ME, you could mostly get rid of the punching bag mini-factions just to let the map be a more reasonable size.
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Oct 25, 2018 17:31
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Yeah I'm willing for there to be 2 ME style campaigns, one that is a playable videogame with ~70 factions and the other with 160 factions that is more like a play-by-post turn based thing where you go to the shops between turns. That way nobody is unhappy. I just think its more likely they won't sort it out and we'll get another ME with huge turn times and a thousand factions you never see. For all the advances made in WH1 and WH2 over other TW games a lot of the decisions made in WH2 show that CA doesn't have a good handle on the basics of what make these games good. Which sorta makes sense, CA has always seemed like a company that has brief periods of lucidity before just randomly stabbing at mechanical/gameplay concepts and designs in the dark. Off the top of my head, having The Most Factions Ever! in ME, having to turn off 12 different camera optiuons every single game instead of just clicking "skip ai moves" once after install, having to turn off all the "don't end turns if your province buffing hero hasn't moved" each game. Those are all things any TW player could have told them immediately were steps backwards. The size of the ME map is fine, its just the turn times, if it takes even only a minute for a turn to end then asking you to spend 5 turns walking to a settlement you want to attack is actually really quite bad for a real game, rather than a mod or early access thing. e: fwiw i think the faction design is stornger than ever and all the teams are fun to play, when i say CA doesn't seem to know what its doing I'm talking only about the campaign layer really. (And maybe balance)
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Oct 25, 2018 17:47
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Yeah I cant wait for the huge map with everyone, its gonna own. A small map (albion???) With everyone in more of a knife fight would be cool too. Araby would be cool, so would CNI and TEB. I would like more warhams give them to me, is my central thesis
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I have honestly never had an issue with the turn times in ME. I mean, they're not instant, but at least for me they're also not endless where I feel like I need to have Netflix going or something. Gimme a bigger map in WH3. Go nuts. Throw Cathay and Ind in there. Let us sail right around the world. Settra needs to rule the entire God drat world.
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Oct 25, 2018 18:12
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The Chad Jihad posted:A small map (albion???) With everyone in more of a knife fight would be cool too. A Dark Shadows (Albion) campaign would be great.
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Anno posted:Just add in the good parts of Age of Sigmar instead, like the ghosty boys. Already done because there AREN'T ANY
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Oct 25, 2018 18:22
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Why would they add Bretonnia when it is just like a bunch of peasant militias and nobles on horses that doesn't amount to anything more than a rip-off of the twelve peers of Charlesmagne.
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Oct 25, 2018 18:25
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Motherfucker posted:Already done because there AREN'T ANY What about the bloodbound bloodblade bloodsecrators?
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Nighthaunt is cool since it’s an army of dead sinners being punished ironically for their crimes. “Oh you liked to hunt people for sport? Well I’ll just merge your soul with your horse and make you tirelessly chase after your target at 2 miles an hour.” Or “Oh, you lived your life carefully scheming and plotting betrayal? How about I take your sight and you spend the rest of your existence in a blind violent rage?” And the main bulk of the force is made of souls who refused to make a stand, either for good or for evil, in life and so must now stand in death. Macdeo Lurjtux fucked around with this message at 18:52 on Oct 25, 2018 |
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A lot of those ghost models actually are cool and all, but also a little one-note. Which kind of describes a lot of AOS armies. Fantasy armies are a lot more diverse, with the VC being made of wraiths, skellingtons, monsters, etc.
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ThingOne posted:This is a really dumb post. Cathay as it is now is a blank slate and CA has thousands of years of myth, literature and actual loving history to draw upon if they decide to add it. They can easily make it recognizably Chinese while also letting it be it's own thing. Warhammer isn't some inimitable work of art, it's a collection of lore thrown together by British nerds to sell overpriced resin army men. Yeah I don't give a poo poo about Warhammer's sacred and immutable lore, but why do that? The whole conceit of this game is "make all your favourite dumb warhammer dudes duke it out." If you want to just make mythological fantasy China, why not do it as a "romance mode double plus" addon to 3 Kingdoms, or in an Age of Mythology-style TW where Thor can chuck lightning bolts at golems? (which would own bc as a jew I really want to see an age of mythology take on ancient Israel and have non-euclidean angels suplexing romans.) Warhammer is dumb and malleable, but it exists as its own thing. If I'm getting a fully-fledged CA mythology take on something I'd want it in its own game.
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Oct 25, 2018 18:57
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Because I want my wuxia stuff to fight orcs
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I'd like Cathay, but I'd like some sort of "twist" to it, rather than just Chinese mythology. It's Warhammer, so there's gotta be some sort of grimdarkness!
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Mordja posted:I'd like Cathay, but I'd like some sort of "twist" to it, rather than just Chinese mythology. It's Warhammer, so there's gotta be some sort of grimdarkness! Warhammer Fantasy isn't really grimdark aside from the designated evil factions. The Empire, Bretonnia, dwarfs, wood elves, high elves, Kislev, lizardmen, and Tomb Kings all have problems and faults to be sure, but they're also all basically trying to do the right thing by their lights. In the RPG books, Bretonnia and the Empire both are starting to have issues with people realizing that feudalism is kinda bullshit and the common folk deserve to have a say in their government, while one of the main goddesses of the Empire has in the new edition declared she's a-okay with homosexuality and over in Bretonnia it's not unknown for Grail Knights to turn into Robin Hood to try to fix Bretonnian society from without.
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Fangz posted:Because I want my wuxia stuff to fight orcs Warhammer is about cool armies fighting each other. You have a human empire based of the renaissance era with a heavy sprinkling of steampunk & fantasy going up against zombie hordes lead by vampires, cockney speaking greenskins, BDSM elves, etc, etc. Adding a cool army based of Chinese myths and having them fight against other cool armies in a match up that makes no logical sense, is Warhammer as gently caress (this coincidentally is also why CA should add Amazons). Raygereio fucked around with this message at 19:18 on Oct 25, 2018 |
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:Yeah I don't give a poo poo about Warhammer's sacred and immutable lore, but why do that? The whole conceit of this game is "make all your favourite dumb warhammer dudes duke it out." If you want to just make mythological fantasy China, why not do it as a "romance mode double plus" addon to 3 Kingdoms, or in an Age of Mythology-style TW where Thor can chuck lightning bolts at golems? (which would own bc as a jew I really want to see an age of mythology take on ancient Israel and have non-euclidean angels suplexing romans.) why not? more fun armies to play and fight against, also given what we're seeing from vampire coast CA are better at adding new units and factions to WH than GW are at the moment. Cathay and Ind etc have always been in the lore so its not like it ruins the setting or anything to flesh them out e: though poo poo, your thing about an age of mythology TW would just end up being Total War: Dominions which I would pretty much drop-kick total-warhammer into a bin to get instead and I painted my first clanrat at like age 7
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It is a dumb argument bc I'd almost certainly buy the Cathay DLC and trust CA to make it fun, so in the end I should shut up. I just lost an internet argument 
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Oct 25, 2018 19:29
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:I just lost an internet argument You're actually a huge baller for admitting it, tho
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Total Warhammer's pretty much become one of my "forever games" along with the like of STALKER and Doom mods. I'll keep playing it as long as they keep making it.
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Oct 25, 2018 19:37
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:It is a dumb argument bc I'd almost certainly buy the Cathay DLC and trust CA to make it fun, so in the end I should shut up. no friend we all won
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:It is a dumb argument bc I'd almost certainly buy the Cathay DLC and trust CA to make it fun, so in the end I should shut up. No No No! You're supposed to double down until somebody gets probated!
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