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Don Dongington posted:Now if the ALP were smart, they'd sit down with the CPSU and get their ducks in a row, and launch a solid campaign on the disinformation and bad math at play here I think the general public just hate Centrelink way too much honestly. Any positive campaigns are just met with so much negativity I think it's more a matter of why bother you can't win. I am constantly amazed how much DHS is used as a punching bag by both parties cause of how easy a target Centrelink is when the government writes the rules. Even the ATO or ABS after the Census stuff up don't have anywhere near the hostility aimed at them.
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naeka posted:I think the general public just hate Centrelink way too much honestly. Any positive campaigns are just met with so much negativity I think it's more a matter of why bother you can't win. I am constantly amazed how much DHS is used as a punching bag by both parties cause of how easy a target Centrelink is when the government writes the rules. Even the ATO or ABS after the Census stuff up don't have anywhere near the hostility aimed at them. It's because centrelink payments and by association paid employees are a waste of money and I pay my taxes.
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naeka posted:I think the general public just hate Centrelink way too much honestly. Any positive campaigns are just met with so much negativity I think it's more a matter of why bother you can't win. I am constantly amazed how much DHS is used as a punching bag by both parties cause of how easy a target Centrelink is when the government writes the rules. Even the ATO or ABS after the Census stuff up don't have anywhere near the hostility aimed at them. It's easy to change track on that though. Centrelink aren't just the dole office anymore. You need to deal with them for Childcare subsidies, maternity leave payments, pension stuff, disability stuff.. The number of people who are having to deal with them for the first time has got to be trending upwards. It's SO loving hard to get the maternity leave stuff set up, all sorts of little traps that add to the waiting period (like documentation requirements that nobody tells you about until you call up asking where your first payment is) that I'm positive anyone who doesn't really need it wouldn't bother going through it all, despite it being a national entitlement. The ALP brought that entitlement in, so they should be doing their best to defend it and tearing holes in the government for trying to attack it by stealth, by limiting access to Centrelink resources and making the process opaque and needlessly difficult.
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Anidav posted:“The reality is that customers don’t really care who is answering their call, as long as it is answered quickly by someone who is capable of resolving their issue,’’ Mr Keenan said. Ordinary Australians love talking to foreign call centre staff.
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Oct 30, 2018 02:26
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I'm going to have to deal with centrelink soon. I am not looking forward to this experience.
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hooman posted:I'm going to have to deal with centrelink soon. I am not looking forward to this experience. Oh no! 
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Oct 30, 2018 04:53
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I’m going to be on Centrelink for the foreseeable future. I’m hosed. I don’t feel like embedding images but Cracked just posted a photo comparing the Great Barrier Reef in 2006 to its bleached state now. It’s depressing.
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Oct 30, 2018 05:03
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Remember when I took great barrier reef photos? Can someone find that post?
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Anidav posted:I mean Centrelink has been poo poo for awhile but it has gotten considerably more poo poo under this government which seems intent on making it extremely difficult to talk to someone who knows what they're talking about. Buddy, you get this is all on purpose, right?
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Count Chocula posted:I’m going to be on Centrelink for the foreseeable future. I’m hosed. Don't worry it's not just coral we're annihilating. https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/oct/30/humanity-wiped-out-animals-since-1970-major-report-finds Guardian AU posted:Humanity has wiped out 60% of mammals, birds, fish and reptiles since 1970, leading the world’s foremost experts to warn that the annihilation of wildlife is now an emergency that threatens civilisation. I remember there being a lot of hoops to jump through to get onto centrelink last time I was on it in 2004 but once I was on, it not being too bad reporting wise. I wonder how much it has degraded in the 15 years since then.
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hooman posted:Don't worry it's not just coral we're annihilating.
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They've done the same to the ndiS . I have a bit of contact with them thru work and I don't know of anybody that's successfully received anything from them. Every enquiry goes around in circles things are required multiple times only to have contact staff swapped out requiring you to begin the entire process again. it's a fake department, it's just a facade like a bank in the background of a western
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Anidav posted:Contractors found to be more efficient for Centrelink call centres OTOH, I had an interaction with Centrelink this year. The first operator, and their escalation point, were quoting things that didn't exist or had been superseded, misreading regulations, and contradicting rulings that applied the case in question. But hey, they answered the phone more often, apparently that's all that counts.
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Doctor Spaceman posted:And don't forget the bees. Just last night my father bragged over the phone just how big and busy, noisy a bee hive he had in the kitchen wall and then how many cans of insect killer he went through hosing it down. I was loving speechless. loving boomers, man. E: probably single handed halved the bee population of Western Australia in one afternoon 
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dirtgolem posted:Just last night my father bragged over the phone just how big and busy, noisy a bee hive he had in the kitchen wall and then how many cans of insect killer he went through hosing it down. I was loving speechless. loving boomers, man. Shoulda paid the rent bees.
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dirtgolem posted:Just last night my father bragged over the phone just how big and busy, noisy a bee hive he had in the kitchen wall and then how many cans of insect killer he went through hosing it down. I was loving speechless. loving boomers, man. Dress up in a bee suit and Steve Irwin your father. I'm sorry, it has to be done.
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hooman posted:Dress up in a bee suit and Steve Irwin your father. Crikey!
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I think Australia is the one country that doesn't have a critical issue with bees disappearing, fwiw.
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i would if i could find where they're hiding that drat honey recipe
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I am going to go insane the election is weeks away yet everyone's already at 11. aaaaagh
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Alan Kohler firing up about his waifu. https://twitter.com/AlanKohler/status/1056032824497565696?s=09
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He's not wrong. Actually he is wrong on one count, Gillard was the best PM we've had the past 22 years at least, possibly 27.
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Don Dongington posted:I think Australia is the one country that doesn't have a critical issue with bees disappearing, fwiw. We don't have the quite the same problems that are affecting european honeybee populations overseas* , but we're going pretty well on loving up native bees with habitat destruction and pests. Decline in native bee populations then accelerates decline of native habitats, creating a nice feedback loop. * yet, give the usual suspects time to gently caress it up
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Oct 30, 2018 06:39
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My waifu is Van Badham.
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Anidav posted:My waifu is Van Badham. 
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ALP attack ads on Matthew "the Liberals cuts " Guy on TV. They've gone back 20 years to his time as advisor to Kennett. 
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Don Dongington posted:I think Australia is the one country that doesn't have a critical issue with bees disappearing, fwiw. I am not an expert, but I think we don't have an issue with commercial honey bees suffering colony collapse, but our native bees aren't in the best shape (due to importes honey bees loving them up). Source: my partner read like, 4 books on bees and then bought some bee art for us to hang on the wall.
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if you want an attack ad, just do an ad for that lobster restraunt and its many famous guests.
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https://www.theage.com.au/politics/victoria/why-matthew-guy-wanted-to-keep-his-religion-in-state-schools-plan-quiet-20181030-p50cwt.html Matthew Guy thought he could put up reintroducing religious instruction to state schools at an ACL event and no one outside the ACL would find out about it?
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ewe2 posted:ALP attack ads on Matthew "the Liberals cuts " Guy on TV. They've gone back 20 years to his time as advisor to Kennett. Kennett's name is toxic still so it's a good play
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Related to great barrier reef talk, one of Bolsanario's plans is to sell off the Amazon for strip mining, so don't expect much of a finger wag from our government for the butchery to come, their resource industry buds are in a goddamned slobbering frenzy for the dude
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quote:Trouble struck a few years later in 2014 when volunteers from Access Ministries, the main provider of Christian religious instruction, distributed "biblezines" to students which described homosexuality as a sin. Oh so standard Christian values then?
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What kind of hosed up company would run headfirst into strip mining the amazon Obvious answer is all of them but still, that is some sickeningly bad publicity
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Edit: ^^^The Peccadillo posted:Related to great barrier reef talk, one of Bolsanario's plans is to sell off the Amazon for strip mining, so don't expect much of a finger wag from our government for the butchery to come, their resource industry buds are in a goddamned slobbering frenzy for the dude I can't wait to read in 6-12 months time about Fender and Gibson execs showing up at the capital on the Monday morning after the election with briefcases full of money, looking to bargain with a literal fascist over the rights to log the last of the Brazilian rosewood.
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Don Dongington posted:Edit: ^^^ I really wonder what they plan on doing once the stuff is all gone. I'm not sure you can really cultivate that kind of tree, and if you could it'd be a gigantic target for the ever hungry maw of capitalism. Like how you get people targetting zoo animals for ivory.
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Don Dongington posted:Edit: ^^^ "Sure we destroyed a major natural habitat that lasted tens of thousands of years- But we made profits and JOBS"
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froglet posted:I really wonder what they plan on doing once the stuff is all gone. They don't care, they'll already be dead in luxury
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froglet posted:I really wonder what they plan on doing once the stuff is all gone.  EDIT: 
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Personally I think it’s on the rest of the world to make maintaining the Amazon economically viable for Brazil  A bunch of other nations have got rich clearing their forests, Brazil should have to support the rest of our dumb asses because of it?
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