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Eox
Jun 20, 2010

by Fluffdaddy
"oh so we like south park, huh libs?"

https://twitter.com/DiscordianKitty/status/1057323725161463809

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Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004




also the big bang theory

Zikan
Feb 29, 2004

South Park is probably of of the ur-cultural founding pieces that laid the steps for “anti-sjw” discourse which helped the alt-lite of the alt-right vault into the mainstream

of course they watch every single episode and think cartman is funny guy who tells it like it is

Morphix
May 21, 2003

by Reene
I mean the whole whattaboutism thing and 'answer is somewhere in the middle' has been a central points of south park's politics since the start.

I've met a lot of would-be-chuds who cite South Park for their cutting edge social commentary.

Having said that, blaming a cartoon for the bigotry or racism in this country is silly and verges on social hysteria of rock music corrupting the kids. South Park worked because the culture was already primed for it, not the other way around.

Business Gorillas
Mar 11, 2009

:harambe:



Morphix posted:

I mean the whole whattaboutism thing and 'answer is somewhere in the middle' has been a central points of south park's politics since the start.

I've met a lot of would-be-chuds who cite South Park for their cutting edge social commentary.

Having said that, blaming a cartoon for the bigotry or racism in this country is dumb. South Park worked because the culture was already primed for it, not the other way around.

The link between anti-Semitism becoming popular with the sub 40 crowd and south park is a straight fuckin line lol

Ague Proof
Jun 5, 2014

they told me
I was everything

Business Gorillas posted:

The link between anti-Semitism becoming popular with the sub 40 crowd and south park is a straight fuckin line lol

i can confirm this

kids who watched south park calling each other jews (who had never met a real jewish person)

CharlestheHammer
Jun 26, 2011

YOU SAY MY POSTS ARE THE RAVINGS OF THE DUMBEST PERSON ON GOD'S GREEN EARTH BUT YOU YOURSELF ARE READING THEM. CURIOUS!
yeah South Park is the best example that ironic racism is still racism.

Uncle Wemus
Mar 4, 2004

South park taught us that caring about stuff is lame.

Siljmonster
Dec 16, 2005

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN
South Park taught me that you dont have to watch South Park or associate with people who do

Pornographic Memory
Dec 17, 2008

Morphix posted:

I mean the whole whattaboutism thing and 'answer is somewhere in the middle' has been a central points of south park's politics since the start.

I've met a lot of would-be-chuds who cite South Park for their cutting edge social commentary.

Having said that, blaming a cartoon for the bigotry or racism in this country is silly and verges on social hysteria of rock music corrupting the kids. South Park worked because the culture was already primed for it, not the other way around.

pinning south park as THE cause of bigotry and racism would be stupid - none of these things are monocausal. but in a thread where we talk constantly about people whose brains have been melted into hateful, paranoid mush by countless hours of internet, cable news, and video games, i think it's pretty naive to write off any media as merely reflecting, rather than playing a part in creating, the culture around it

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Pornographic Memory posted:

pinning south park as THE cause of bigotry and racism would be stupid - none of these things are monocausal. but in a thread where we talk constantly about people whose brains have been melted into hateful, paranoid mush by countless hours of internet, cable news, and video games, i think it's pretty naive to write off any media as merely reflecting, rather than playing a part in creating, the culture around it

South Park is the ideological embodiment of the 90s white Gen-Xer, when nothing was worth worrying about because the material conditions were assured and everything seemed trivial.

Anyway I got recommended this by the algorithm.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q15xaMj07HE

I'd expect more nazi darkwave in the near future. Also I know it's pointless to talk about how fascists don't get art, but the point of Jin-Roh is that fascism is so totalizing it becomes impossible to be a human being even if you want to.

Business Gorillas
Mar 11, 2009

:harambe:



Pornographic Memory posted:

pinning south park as THE cause of bigotry and racism would be stupid - none of these things are monocausal. but in a thread where we talk constantly about people whose brains have been melted into hateful, paranoid mush by countless hours of internet, cable news, and video games, i think it's pretty naive to write off any media as merely reflecting, rather than playing a part in creating, the culture around it

Thinking as hard as I can about blatantly anti-Semitic mainstream media in 90s/early aughts and drawing a big ol blank

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
https://twitter.com/UR_Ninja/status/1057343982953488385
https://twitter.com/UR_Ninja/status/1057354181743390727

Azathoth
Apr 3, 2001

South Park is illustrative of the cultural rot surrounding social progress from the 90s on up to where we are now, where the worst sin was to care and the march of social progress was inevitable. It eventually metastasized into chuds complaining about SJWs and doing things just to own the libs, but to suggest that it's somehow responsible is dangerously close to scapegoating. Everyone on both sides of the political divide had a hand in it.

The wider culture was all about pretending everything was fine until it actually was fine. The idea that racism would just die out as older generations went away was the prevailing idea, so no one wanted to do the hard and unpleasant work of addressing the underlying problems. The veneer of progress disguised the rot until we eventually got where we are now.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
lmao

https://twitter.com/oneunderscore__/status/1057351444905558016

Thompsons
Aug 28, 2008

Ask me about onklunk extraction.

Azathoth posted:

The wider culture was all about pretending everything was fine until it actually was fine. The idea that racism would just die out as older generations went away was the prevailing idea, so no one wanted to do the hard and unpleasant work of addressing the underlying problems. The veneer of progress disguised the rot until we eventually got where we are now.

About the only contemporary media I can think of off the top of my head that really went against the grain was Bulworth.

Darkman Fanpage
Jul 4, 2012

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

South Park is the ideological embodiment of the 90s white Gen-Xer, when nothing was worth worrying about because the material conditions were assured and everything seemed trivial.

Anyway I got recommended this by the algorithm.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q15xaMj07HE

I'd expect more nazi darkwave in the near future. Also I know it's pointless to talk about how fascists don't get art, but the point of Jin-Roh is that fascism is so totalizing it becomes impossible to be a human being even if you want to.

i was going through the music playlist i have on youtube yesterday and i got recommended that too. thanks, google.

aware of dog
Nov 14, 2016
https://twitter.com/ehananoki/status/1057356556407357440?s=21
I don't think I'll ever get over how stupid the NPC meme is

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Thompsons posted:

About the only contemporary media I can think of off the top of my head that really went against the grain was Bulworth.

Natural Born Killers still rules.

Darkman Fanpage
Jul 4, 2012
https://twitter.com/black_pilled/status/1053515704777900032?s=21

libs sure are getting owned out there

Business Gorillas
Mar 11, 2009

:harambe:




Am I reading this correctly as "we owned the libs by nobody recognizing our stupid meme and not getting our rear end kicked"?

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Business Gorillas posted:

Am I reading this correctly as "we owned the libs by nobody recognizing our stupid meme and not getting our rear end kicked"?

you laugh at me because I'm doing the same bit as dozens of other losers, but I laugh because you're all the same

Darkman Fanpage
Jul 4, 2012
memeing irl should be punishable by death tbh

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:
imagine taking anime that's an allegory for the horrors of living under american occupation and thinking "wow, i wish my life was like that"

Brother Entropy
Dec 27, 2009

Al! posted:

imagine taking anime that's an allegory for the horrors of living under american occupation and thinking "wow, i wish my life was like that"

what is this post about

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

you laugh at me because I'm doing the same bit as dozens of other losers, but I laugh because you're all the same

they really don't get the irony i suppose

Darkman Fanpage
Jul 4, 2012
https://twitter.com/wahkersrevolt/status/1057164889733640193?s=21

Ruzihm
Aug 11, 2010

Group up and push mid, proletariat!


Epic High Five posted:

also the big bang theory

plz explain ive only watched like 2 minutes at a time of that show

Meme Emulator
Oct 4, 2000

Ruzihm posted:

plz explain ive only watched like 2 minutes at a time of that show

Heres everything you need to know

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skQGve3XksU

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



Ruzihm posted:

plz explain ive only watched like 2 minutes at a time of that show

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3-hOigoxHs

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
engaging in criminal fraud targeting the former FBI director to own the libs

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy

Darkman Fanpage posted:

libs sure are getting owned out there
showing up at an anti-trump protest with an anti-trump sign but you own the libs because nobody knows you're being ironic

Ague Proof
Jun 5, 2014

they told me
I was everything
making an anti-trump protest look bigger to own the anti-trump protest

staticman
Sep 12, 2008

Be gay
Death to America
Suck my dick Israel
Mess with Texas
and remember to lmao
Yeah yeah, cops and klan and all, but have you considered the possibility that cops ARE klan? :monocle:

https://twitter.com/joelfrominwood/status/1057346300205826051

Epic High Five
Jun 5, 2004



BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

showing up at an anti-trump protest with an anti-trump sign but you own the libs because nobody knows you're being ironic

this also happened at the Bernie rally here lol

4 people total with signs, two stupidly used a board for the sign and a big wooden stick so it was so heavy they couldn't hold them up longer than 10 seconds at a time, and were in constant danger of getting a battery charge because of the wind.

Nobody knew what the hell they were on about, most probably assumed it was vaguely anti-corporate because it was NPCs in suits with no text

Poniard
Apr 3, 2011



im behind the times here but lmao
https://twitter.com/rachelmillman/status/1052705105378729986

aware of dog
Nov 14, 2016

dude must poo poo a ton to need duct tape

Azathoth
Apr 3, 2001

Thompsons posted:

About the only contemporary media I can think of off the top of my head that really went against the grain was Bulworth.

I think we're gonna look back on the cynicism and nihilism of the 90s as a mainstream cultural reaction against the vicissitudes of late capitalism, just by a part of the culture that didn't have a conception of anything other than all-consuming 80s capitalism. I can see clear through-lines from 90s anti-consumerism to today's various anticapitalist movements.

Ague Proof
Jun 5, 2014

they told me
I was everything
these pepes dressing up as NPCs is such a spectacular self-own.

so their criticism is that libs/leftists make everything about Donald Trump and how he's bad, so these 4channers bring politics (and the most obnoxious kind) to a party and make the whole thing about Donald Trump. it's just someone who has no interest outside the internet or politics, you have to know that poo poo is mood-killer

they're going to be roleplaying as a boring person, because they're boring. they aren't the life of the party. no one is going to want to talk to them or be around them, but they wouldn't want to anyway because their personalities are repellent. it's a defense mechanism for the defensively-ironic, and they're going to think they're trolling people by ruining the mood for everyone else. they're ruining it for themselves too

only someone with the personality of an NPC would dress up as one.

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Conspiratiorist
Nov 12, 2015

17th Separate Kryvyi Rih Tank Brigade named after Konstantin Pestushko
Look to my coming on the first light of the fifth sixth some day

Oh poo poo, he was the peeing in public guy?

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