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I'd like to see you grab a Venipede if you have room. Scolipede is the best giant disappointed horse bug friend.
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Regalingualius posted:Same. Honestly, the intro section is really jarring compared to everything else we’ve seen so far... So I’m expecting the facade to crack again sometime soon. I'm almost looking forward to that. Right now the whole Cult thing seems not only silly but really pointless. Aside from the Darkrai sacrifice and the Augur's big speech, you could easily replace every occurrence of the word 'Cult' with 'Team' and the only result would be that the plot up to this point would actually make more sense. I really liked the design of that river Route (nicely thematic, a clear fast track in the middle, lots of optional side areas), but the forest Gym just looked obnoxious. Why even make the underground area dark when it's only straight corridors and T-intersections anyway? If you could see something, you could at least plan your path somewhat.
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Oct 31, 2018 00:19
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Carpator Diei posted:Why even make the underground area dark when it's only straight paths anyway? If you could see something, you could at least plan your path somewhat. It's not, it's a legit maze.
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Oct 31, 2018 00:21
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Some Numbers posted:It's not, it's a legit maze. Ah, okay. Although in that case, making it pitch dark is even worse.
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Oct 31, 2018 00:22
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DoubleNegative posted:The plot is pretty much on hold for the moment. After the gym battle in the next update, we get a small dose of it, and then it goes back into hibernation for like 4 routes. Then it hibernates for several more routes before it finally kicks into gear and starts moving in earnest. Just like actual Pokemon! Yay! Hobgoblin2099 posted:I'm sorry, did that say Mega Bong? Unfortunately. "Okay, they implied he's a pot head. Fine." then Mega Bong and I remember I just couldn't stop myself from wincing.
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Oct 31, 2018 00:55
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looked up delta pidgey. Shame it looks like it won't be of much use to us, I like the idea behind it. I know everyone is focused on the mega bong, but seriously one question: In what world is a big, stupid jellyfish forest themed?
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Oct 31, 2018 01:13
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FoolyCharged posted:In what world is a big, stupid jellyfish forest themed? coral forest
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Oct 31, 2018 01:25
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:I'm sorry, did that say Mega Bong? Psycho Knight posted:Unfortunately. "Okay, they implied he's a pot head. Fine." then Mega Bong and I remember I just couldn't stop myself from wincing. quote:
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Oct 31, 2018 02:05
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Yeah Xavier has the types down but was too busy counterpicking to realize that Haunter is barely thematic and Tentacruel was just lost. My strategy for the Mega Beedrill has always been. 1) Bring both Boldore and Graveler 2) Send them out against Beedrill. 3) Drill run doesn't OHKO because Sturdy. 4) Rock move for the win. 5) If first rockboy misses, send out second rockboy. Of course this doesn't answer the rest of the gym. This is why I said Artix still had a job to do. Sending him out after Xavier's shuckle is down to rapid spin the web away might have worked wonders. Then again, so didn't having a flying type. (You can rapid spin Sticky Web, right?)
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Oct 31, 2018 02:23
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ChrisBTY posted:(You can rapid spin Sticky Web, right?) Yeppers, and trapping moves too.
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Oct 31, 2018 03:15
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Saladin Rising posted:Personally I found it funny, although it helps that this whole Gym in particular seems to seems to be poking fun and not taking itself too seriously. Even as a joke it's cringey and terrible. Though at least it was only two lines and not a recurring plot point, Reborn. Mega Bong is also a joke that's more cringeworthy than anything but...at least it could be a bit funny in the right state of mind. As in, if I was "mega evolved" too. Probably. I can't see Mega Beedrill this early as good design. This is the second Gym, the player has nothing on the level of a Mega power-wise. And this is Normal, so I can't imagine how far it goes in Hard. You won, so it's clearly not an impossible objective, but it's a bit too much in my opinion. And dark mazes are always really not fun. Get a Mega Pidgey though, I checked the designs for that line and I really like what they did with an incredibly boring mon that would be completely forgettable had it not come out in Gen 1.
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Oct 31, 2018 03:18
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DoubleNegative posted:
"Death threats, huh? Well good luck with that kid! I'm far too busy to call the relevant authorities! Or lend a hand! Also I'm going to ignore that you have a mew, or something! Well bye!" This game is great.
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Oct 31, 2018 03:28
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megane posted:I'd like to see you grab a Venipede if you have room. Scolipede is the best giant disappointed horse bug friend. I’m seconding this. Scolopede is a loving powerhouse bug.
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Oct 31, 2018 03:37
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value-brand cereal posted:"Death threats, huh? Well good luck with that kid! I'm far too busy to call the relevant authorities! Or lend a hand! Also I'm going to ignore that you have a mew, or something! Yeah, I was going to say that the part about the dump comes three lines after the mention of a kidnapping. 
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Oct 31, 2018 03:37
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One doesn't simply "outspeed" a Mega Beedrill, with a 145 speed it leaves Dodrio in the dust. The only turn it's vulnerable to being outsped is the turn it transforms. That's why a fair number of competitive Mega Beedrill sets pack Protect to keep them from being one-shotted before they're up to speed. Edit: It is a bit of a dick move to drop a Mega on a team that can't deploy one to counter. Kemix posted:I’m seconding this. Scolopede is a loving powerhouse bug. Thirding, Scolopede is the best horse. Unova added so many good bugs.
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Oct 31, 2018 03:43
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I just like the idea that this guy just straight up put a Key Stone in a loving bong. VVVVVV That one, thank you. suddenly cats fucked around with this message at 07:02 on Oct 31, 2018 |
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Oct 31, 2018 03:49
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suddenly cats posted:I just like the idea that this guy just straight up put a Mega Stone in a loving bong. Key stone. The mega stones are held by the Pokemon.
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Oct 31, 2018 04:26
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BlazeEmblem posted:Key stone. The mega stones are held by the Pokemon. Which doesn't mean Beedrill isn't carrying a bong itself with its Beedrillite inside it.
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Oct 31, 2018 04:49
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I really like how the Gym Leaders really can't be swept by just one or two pokemon (without over-leveling, anyways). The mainstream games have gotten better about it, admittedly, but more often than not it feels like you can take one a gym with just one point man. Two, if the leader has something specifically to counter your main pokemon. Here it feels like leaders have actually earned their position without being ball-bustingly (boob-bustingly?) difficult.
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Oct 31, 2018 05:35
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I'm somewhat struck by how... cheery the paper the hostage letter's on is, considering. Most festive looking threat I've seen in a while.
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Oct 31, 2018 06:56
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It's weird to have a forest themed team with a Ghost and have it not be Phantump/Trevenant. Of course the problem is that it isn't Bug or Poison, but if they're just gonna bring in Tentacruel I think we can bend things a little bit.
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Oct 31, 2018 07:11
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PoptartsNinja posted:One doesn't simply "outspeed" a Mega Beedrill, with a 145 speed it leaves Dodrio in the dust. The only turn it's vulnerable to being outsped is the turn it transforms. That's why a fair number of competitive Mega Beedrill sets pack Protect to keep them from being one-shotted before they're up to speed. They changed that in Gen 7, so depending on if Insurgence is using those mechanics or not you just might not be able to outspeed it at all with a similarly leveled mon.
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Oct 31, 2018 07:25
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More like Beedank.
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Oct 31, 2018 07:30
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Xavier hard mode or as it's probably more commonly called... "gently caress this!"
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Oct 31, 2018 08:29
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I really like how no matter what he just ain't evolving that croagunk
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Oct 31, 2018 10:03
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Is that a goddamn Gengar in there? That's rough.
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Oct 31, 2018 10:59
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megane posted:I'd like to see you grab a Venipede if you have room. Scolipede is the best giant disappointed horse bug friend. I was excited when I caught a Venipede in my Y Nuzlocke run, because I had never used a Scolipede before. Then he got critical hit KO'd by a rando wild Pokemon while I was training him. 
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Oct 31, 2018 12:06
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mandatory lesbian posted:I really like how no matter what he just ain't evolving that croagunk It evolves at 37, so... Uh.... Legality, I guess? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ But yeah Hard Mode is a mistake.
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Oct 31, 2018 12:25
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Eeepies posted:Is that a goddamn Gengar in there? That's rough. With Focus Sash and Explosion, no less. Jesus.
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Oct 31, 2018 12:29
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I think the thing that bothers me more than the Mega Beedril (although that thing absolutely should not be a mega outside of hard mode) is that the non-bug half of the team doesn't fit the stated theme. Croagunk should be in a swamp or wetlands theme team, Tentacruel should be ocean, and while you could make a case for Haunter, it seems like it would make more sense for a city themed team. It's like they came up with an idea for doing dual typed gyms first, and tried to work backwards from there.
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Oct 31, 2018 12:55
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DoubleNegative posted:Xavier hard mode or as it's probably more commonly called... "gently caress this!" This is the second Gym!
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Oct 31, 2018 17:08
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Hobgoblin2099 posted:This is the second Gym! I mean, with a non-hosed level curve (though the level helper certainly eases that once you get there), I could see this in a hard mode sort of thing. The issue, I think, is the presence of the Mega Beedrill on normal. Does it show up on Easy too?
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Kyrosiris posted:I mean, with a non-hosed level curve (though the level helper certainly eases that once you get there), I could see this in a hard mode sort of thing. This was said in a previous post I think, Beedrill in Easy has a Life Orb instead of a Mega Stone which...you know, is kind of painful too, but at least it isn't min-maxed Mega Beedrill.
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Oct 31, 2018 17:15
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I beat this gym on my second try, although in hindsight I probably got lucky. I recall my team at the time being Delta Charmeleon, Feraligatr, Nidorino, Delta Scyther, Heatmor and Onix. Onix set up Stealth Rock and killed Shuckle, while Heatmor oneshotted both Heracross and Croagunk with a Charcoal-boosted Flame Burst. Haunter killed Delta Charmander, but I managed to confuse it first and that gave Feraligatr the chance to kill it with Crunch - if he'd recovered from the confusion he'd probably have wiped me. Mega Beedrill honestly wasn't that much of a problem, I think Heatmor might even have oneshotted him as well - that anteater is tanky as hell. I don't remember how I beat Tentacruel, but I recall him giving me a lot of trouble. Toxic and Venoshock is a nasty combination.
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Oct 31, 2018 19:03
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Using entry hazards and having your own thing to rapid spin during regular gameplay is definitely a big help in this game, since almost every big fight past the first gym is six pokemon that aren't easy to sweep.
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Oct 31, 2018 19:15
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ha, mega bong. every so often I forget this is one of those "mature" games. also making Explosion a TM was such a good idea. also also I appreciate somebody trying to make tentacruel do something interesting in a game
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Oct 31, 2018 19:49
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DoubleNegative posted:Xavier hard mode or as it's probably more commonly called... "gently caress this!" gently caress this, indeed. That looks like torture.
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Nov 1, 2018 03:43
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Smoke does calm bees down and give them the munchies. I suppose a mega bee's response to a possible fire is a little different, though.
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Nov 1, 2018 05:14
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Argent Cinereus posted:I'm somewhat struck by how... cheery the paper the hostage letter's on is, considering. Most festive looking threat I've seen in a while.
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I notice DoubleNegative isn't posting music links, so here's the gym leader theme. It's on Polsy, so no need to worry about accidental spoilers. I kind of like the theme, it's got a sort of creeping intensity to it that builds the tension nicely.
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