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alphabettitouretti posted:So good. It was a bright spot after the absolute despair of brexit.
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CoolCab posted:he also has a shitton of skeletons - recent meets with terfs have soured some of the radical left. he’s still my dude tho Disappointing that he met with terfs, I didn't know that
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Oct 30, 2018 15:45
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lol https://twitter.com/LouHaigh/status/1057548878373965824
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Oct 31, 2018 13:35
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lol that unlike every other wannabe fascist govt in the world the tories actually included the police in the neoliberal looting spree
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Oct 31, 2018 13:54
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Oct 31, 2018 13:55
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police and prison guards the post brexit riots are going to be mental
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Oct 31, 2018 14:00
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gently caress over the populace while cutting the police force into shreds...what could go wrong??
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Oct 31, 2018 14:11
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Zeroisanumber posted:Why do you guys spend so much time loving Corbyn when McDonnell exists? He's kind of an idiot and will inevitably gently caress up everything or betray us to do some weak centrist bullshit to placate the neolibs
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Oct 31, 2018 14:12
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Hentai Jihadist posted:He's kind of an idiot 
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Oct 31, 2018 14:24
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Ghost Leviathan posted:lol that unlike every other wannabe fascist govt in the world the tories actually included the police in the neoliberal looting spree This is how you know if your particular hell government is more evil or incompetent.
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Oct 31, 2018 14:38
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remember the mao stunt? still the stupidest stunt iv seen a politician pull in the commons and thats really saying something
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Oct 31, 2018 15:03
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he'd just started. he's improved hugely since then
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Oct 31, 2018 15:04
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Mao was on to something full classicide now
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Oct 31, 2018 15:12
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Joseance posted:he'd just started. he's improved hugely since then probably, its just that i see him as a liability when combined with his fiscal rule stuff where he basially hamstrung his own ability to do anything that needs to be done he talks a good game i just don't actually trust him to not gently caress everything up my mum used to work with him and likes him though but says he hasn't changed any of his ideas in 30 years which... i mean could be good or bad a return to 70s labour would be an improvement over blairism or mayism but still isn't reallly what i want e: fwiw what i want is 2018 full socialism now
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Oct 31, 2018 15:15
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Hentai Jihadist posted:remember the mao stunt? even the Chinese were like lol wtf, no one alive has actually read that book
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Oct 31, 2018 15:34
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also i mean even today you've got stuff like https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/oct/30/philip-hammond-income-tax-cuts-are-right-and-moral-budget-chancellor quote:The shadow chancellor, John McDonnell, has sparked a backlash from Labour MPs by insisting that the party would not to oppose the tax cuts for higher earners announced in Monday’s budget. he talks a good game but he's kinda a melt e: like loving seriously, we're supposed to take this guy as a legit leftist who is gonna help us transform the economy and he can't even come out in favour of taxing rich people let alone taxing in general, and by any metric we are gonna need to do some taxing if we get the society we want. is the argument that he's pretending to be a moron to placate tax payers alliance types? cause thats extremely bad lol Communist Thoughts has issued a correction as of 17:07 on Oct 31, 2018 |
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Oct 31, 2018 17:03
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I think it's the general problem with power and the leanings of the British population. They can see power is really close, and they could do so much good, but they need something to put them over the top, and the Blairian/Faustian bargain has been dangling in front of them for two years. All they have to do is leave a few of the middle class alone, maybe a couple of targeted tax cuts here, maybe this, maybe that, and before you known it you're embracing Britpop, jeans and invading developing nations.
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tarbrush posted:I think it's the general problem with power and the leanings of the British population. They can see power is really close, and they could do so much good, but they need something to put them over the top, and the Blairian/Faustian bargain has been dangling in front of them for two years. We should go into coalition with the Tories and never do anything to oppose their policies
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Oct 31, 2018 18:40
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Hentai Jihadist posted:also i mean even today you've got stuff like its the labour right using anything they can to stir poo poo up https://twitter.com/mattzarb/status/1057401808241483776
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Oct 31, 2018 18:42
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tony Blair smothered the centre , so it’s certainly a route to power if you’re willing to compromise most of your ideals not like Lib Dem’s whom shat the bed when in the coalition and caved on critical things such as tuition fees, which decimated their support and killed the party for generations
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Oct 31, 2018 18:42
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Joseance posted:its the labour right using anything they can to stir poo poo up he shouldn't have promised to not raise taxes, especially for the top 10%, top 5% is arbitrary thats stupid for a left wing government that needs to do a lot of spending to reverse 30 years of decline and just cedes the economic ideological ground to the same people who have been loving us for decades specifically labour should be going "well you get value from your taxes with labour, unlike the tories who just slash everything and give you gently caress all. Ł10 of taxes can get you much more than Ł10 in your pocket"
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Oct 31, 2018 18:45
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just lie to get in power, then about face
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Oct 31, 2018 18:49
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i have no problem with mcdonnell promising not to raise taxes on anyone who earsn 50k and less
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Joseance posted:i have no problem with mcdonnell promising not to raise taxes on anyone who earsn 50k and less what if labour needs to (they will) in order to get anything done? then best case scenario we're hoping they Jel Shaker posted:just lie to get in power, then about face but that way we're basically hoping that what mcdonnel says and does is an act, which seems less likely than the alternative which is he is genuinely trying to court the centre by hamstringing himself when the centre will already be more than happy to hamstring a left labour economy regardless of what counterproductive platitudes he offers
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Oct 31, 2018 18:54
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Hentai Jihadist posted:what if labour needs to (they will) in order to get anything done? Socialism in the UK is not going to live or die on a minor tax break for people earning between 40-80k my dude. You should have been at The World Transformed - John McD was all over the place there talking about all the various ideas for transforming the economy. Leo Panich said that socialism isn't going to come in one government, so the left can't be calling everyone traitors and saboteurs when we don't have Full Communism Now after a year. Have some faith.
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Oct 31, 2018 19:43
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Hentai Jihadist posted:what if labour needs to (they will) in order to get anything done? they really, really aggressively don't and they never did. significant increases on the top rate alongside wealth and corporation taxes can cover the overwhelming majority of the tax burden and always could.
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Oct 31, 2018 19:48
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Joseance posted:he'd just started.  been an MP since 97
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Oct 31, 2018 20:16
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Not in such a high profile position
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Oct 31, 2018 20:16
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50k is not that much and I see no problem with promising no tax rises in that bracket. The fiscal charter is bad though.
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Joseance posted:its the labour right using anything they can to stir poo poo up Woah wait you mean the guardian is reporting disingenuous bullshit from the blairites to use as a cudgel against the left??? whaaaat
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nice photo lmao
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Crane Fist posted:Woah wait you mean the guardian is reporting disingenuous bullshit from the blairites to use as a cudgel against the left??? whaaaat hosed up if true op!
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*skips over 1000 posts* every piece of news that pops into my push notifications about brexit is that no-deal won't happen, and then a week later continual assurances that despite developments since last week no-deal won't happen. what the gently caress are you kids doing over there? is it that nobody knows what's going on? is that why it seems like nobody knows what's going on?
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Nov 1, 2018 19:47
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Willie Tomg posted:is it that nobody knows what's going on? is that why it seems like nobody knows what's going on? Bingo
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Crane Fist posted:Bingo I kinda get the feeling that everybody in government knows it's going to be bad, and they know that if they cut a deal they'll be blamed for cutting a bad deal even though any possible deal would have to be bad because Brexit was a bad idea in the first place. And furthermore, any deal that they could cut would involve reneging on the independence they promised the British CHUDs, like stopping immigration and not having to live up to EU fruit standards or whatever. So no deal, while disastrous for the country, is the best political choice for the Tory government. Am I off base here?
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I do hope the oval office gets turbo hosed by the US.. I doubt it'd happen though 
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Trainee PornStar posted:I do hope the oval office gets turbo hosed by the US.. I doubt it'd happen though I can’t help but feel that they’ll be “oh boy, you got us good...now teach us all you know and we’ll use you on Iran”
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