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Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


Xelkelvos posted:

Not voting for the Dems in a D vs. R race has never pushed the Dems Leftward.

tell that to the populist party, the progressive party, and the socialist party

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Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Fun Shoe

Xelkelvos posted:

Not voting for the Dems in a D vs. R race has never pushed the Dems Leftward.

Neither has voting for the Dems.

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


I disagree that it's impossible to takeover the party from within to push it left, just very difficult and compromising, and it requires institutions and movements outside of it threatening it, including a leftist third party. If they successfully hold off the Bernie wing of the party the only choice will be a third party

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

You must stay drunk on writing so reality cannot destroy you.
Historically speaking, the only thing that can reliably change an American party ideologically is time in the political wilderness

Even then, they could just go the way of the Whigs and slowly die out while a new party fills in the gap

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

Are there good sites for collecting info on candidates? I live in indiana ans I aint fuckin turning out for Donnelly but I might if there's a local race worth it (there probably isn't)

Lawman 0
Aug 17, 2010

StashAugustine posted:

Are there good sites for collecting info on candidates? I live in indiana ans I aint fuckin turning out for Donnelly but I might if there's a local race worth it (there probably isn't)

Ballotpedia

Business Gorillas
Mar 11, 2009

:harambe:



Lawman 0 posted:

Ballotpedia

Ballotpedia is a good one stop shop for incumbents but if you have new people running, you're just gonna have to look at their website/social media

really queer Christmas
Apr 22, 2014

ballotpedia will usually at least point to a new person's website/social media so it can still be a good choice

100 HOGS AGREE
Oct 13, 2007
Grimey Drawer
league of women voters (https://www.vote411.org/) sends out questionnaires to candidates, I've noticed a lot more have been returned lately (at least in my precinct).

Candidate responses can be full of political bullshit but it's better than the nothing you'd get on most state or local elections, they'll generally link to the candidate's websites and social media too.

Eimi
Nov 23, 2013

I will never log offshut up.


The one lefty guy lost the primary here in Kansas and I don't know whether I should vote or not. I'm assuming the Dem is a succdem cause some volunteer texted me and she wasn't for Medicare 4 All which is like pretty baseline.

ded redd
Aug 1, 2010

by Fluffdaddy

Eimi posted:

The one lefty guy lost the primary here in Kansas and I don't know whether I should vote or not. I'm assuming the Dem is a succdem cause some volunteer texted me and she wasn't for Medicare 4 All which is like pretty baseline.

i would say yes, though admittedly i'm biased towards leniency for stuff like governors and attorney generals that (potentially) have more bite with their election than you would get with a legislative seat

that, and kobach having executive power or any power whatsoever is loving terrifying, especially if he has a chamber willing to play ball

Eimi
Nov 23, 2013

I will never log offshut up.


Office Pig posted:

i would say yes, though admittedly i'm biased towards leniency for stuff like governors and attorney generals that (potentially) have more bite with their election than you would get with a legislative seat

that, and kobach having executive power or any power whatsoever is loving terrifying, especially if he has a chamber willing to play ball

Yeah...true, I just have no hope that a D in this shithole of a state wouldn't turn out to just be a polite Republican. Local stuff does matter more though.

Corky Romanovsky
Oct 1, 2006

Soiled Meat
I mailed in my ballot today. The documents didn't clarify ID requirements (I don't need one) and it printed out without my middle initial, so it is probably going to be thrown out. Not terribly thrilled about the two offices I could vote for. One guy is a former NBA executive, but he did think Nancy pelosi should retire. Tammy Baldwin...I really don't know.

E: lol, this is that dudes Republican opponent's attack ad
https://youtu.be/ryGTE-bL8a8

Corky Romanovsky has issued a correction as of 05:35 on Oct 26, 2018

paul_soccer10
Mar 28, 2016

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
https://twitter.com/leahmcelrath/status/1055631800083640320

Corky Romanovsky
Oct 1, 2006

Soiled Meat
Well, his policies are largely indistinguishable from national Dem leadership

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Corky Romanovsky posted:

Well, his policies are largely indistinguishable from national Dem leadership

still lol’ing that Cruz never got his rear end blasted for demanding armed patrols of Muslim communities

Corky Romanovsky
Oct 1, 2006

Soiled Meat
Taintrunner's post isn't loading so I am sending this post down the water park ride in hopes of dislodging it but may get stuck in the process.

Flavius Aetass
Mar 30, 2011

Taintrunner posted:

still lol’ing that Cruz never got his rear end blasted for demanding armed patrols of Muslim communities

why would the democrats want advertise a policy that would make cruz even more popular?

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Flavius Aetass posted:

why would the democrats want advertise a policy that would make cruz even more popular?

oh good, the pretend he didn’t say it and it’ll go away tactic, which has absolutely worked in the past and will surely work in our favor again

how big was your check from the Clinton campaign and which campaign are you consulting for in 2020

Flavius Aetass
Mar 30, 2011

Taintrunner posted:

oh good, the pretend he didn’t say it and it’ll go away tactic, which has absolutely worked in the past and will surely work in our favor again

how big was your check from the Clinton campaign and which campaign are you consulting for in 2020

lmfao

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
stick to the trump thread, it’s clear you’re too afraid of an opposition party actually opposing anything to have a spine

Peanut President
Nov 5, 2008

by Athanatos

StashAugustine posted:

Are there good sites for collecting info on candidates? I live in indiana ans I aint fuckin turning out for Donnelly but I might if there's a local race worth it (there probably isn't)

Have you tried going to the fuckin Indiana Secretary of State's website?
https://www.in.gov/sos/elections/

Peanut President
Nov 5, 2008

by Athanatos
for example you would learn that there's a member of the Pirate party (!!) running for SoS

Grammarchist
Jan 28, 2013

All my democratic candidates from Indiana state legislature on up in my district are overtly pro marijuana legalization, which is a pretty significant leap from even 2016, when it was mostly implied. It's not really an issue I care about, but they're a lot more forceful this go around, especially for the two state legislative districts my county is a part of.

I vote straight ticket Democrat regardless, but the candidates have gotten a lot bolder on left-wing issues lately. Tanoos also starred in a movie as the fictional, mysteriously Syrian Orthodox, grandson of Eugene Debbs who ushers in a socialist revolution in Indiana.

I may vote Democrat to to spite the Republicans as a matter of course, but I went the extra mile to reward this bizarre masterpiece: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_Wp35rNULk

crazy cloud
Nov 7, 2012

by Cyrano4747
Lipstick Apathy
lmao imagine 'not really caring about' the war on drugs god drat loving liberals

Grammarchist
Jan 28, 2013

crazy cloud posted:

lmao imagine 'not really caring about' the war on drugs god drat loving liberals

Sorry, poor wording on my part. I meant more that marijuana legalization is not my area of expertise, but something I support as a matter of solidarity. My wheelhouse is more the nationalization of health care, preserving regulatory power, supporting unions and subsidizing the guillotine industry. Still, seeing it become the standard Democratic platform is a bonus, especially as my personal whims aren't generally catered to.

crazy cloud
Nov 7, 2012

by Cyrano4747
Lipstick Apathy

Grammarchist posted:

Sorry, poor wording on my part. I meant more that marijuana legalization is not my area of expertise, but something I support as a matter of solidarity. My wheelhouse is more the nationalization of health care, preserving regulatory power, supporting unions and subsidizing the guillotine industry. Still, seeing it become the standard Democratic platform is a bonus, especially as my personal whims aren't generally catered to.

whew ok u can stay out of gulag 4 now ...

Typo
Aug 19, 2009

Chernigov Military Aviation Lyceum
The Fighting Slowpokes
prediction:
Senate R: 52 (48(D/I)
House: R: 205 D 230
Gov: 25-25 (Cordray wins in OH)

Typo
Aug 19, 2009

Chernigov Military Aviation Lyceum
The Fighting Slowpokes
ofc come election night the republicans hold onto the house by 3 or somethig

U-DO Burger
Nov 12, 2007




prediction: lol

crazy cloud
Nov 7, 2012

by Cyrano4747
Lipstick Apathy

U-DO Burger posted:

prediction: lol

crazy cloud
Nov 7, 2012

by Cyrano4747
Lipstick Apathy
beto is gonna lose and texas is the reason

ScrubLeague
Feb 11, 2007

Nap Ghost
Yeah but the 45% or whatever he gets is gonna be better than a texas dem has done in a long time.

Lawman 0
Aug 17, 2010

Dems take the house and embarrass the poo poo out of Republicans in a bunch down ballot and gubernatorial races

Typo
Aug 19, 2009

Chernigov Military Aviation Lyceum
The Fighting Slowpokes

crazy cloud posted:

beto is gonna lose and texas is the reason

Cruz +7

really queer Christmas
Apr 22, 2014

crazy cloud posted:

beto is gonna lose and texas is the reason

he's going to lose because he's garbage

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


beto is oss off 2.0

smarxist
Jul 26, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
voted straight ticket D in Missouri, for all the good it'll do :unsmith:

Claire McCaskill is flaming hot garbage and i kinda wanna see her lose

smarxist
Jul 26, 2018

by Fluffdaddy
any interest in a rabb.it drunken hang room where we watch lovely cable news coverage on midterm night?

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Shear Modulus
Jun 9, 2010



beto is a hundred times better than ossoff

beto actually talks about healthcare for one

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