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anthonypants posted:wait do people actually use microsoft dynamics you may wish they didn't, but some of them do i didn't say dynamics was good, just that it wasn't dead
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I know my last employer ended up on dynamics but they’re so huge I imagine they’re not paying much if anything for it, it was probably more of a bribe to keep them away from salesforce
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:the entire windows "thing" is a legacy business. the trick is to spend as little money as possible, without directly undermining the revenue sources this makes sense but let's remember that microsoft has more money than sense.
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Bulgakov posted:sharepoint 
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Nov 2, 2018 11:22
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more like shartpoint
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i once quit a job largely because a slick salesperson sold the bosses onto becoming a testing house for sharepoint 1.0 nope
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Nov 2, 2018 12:33
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Chris Knight posted:more like shartpoint
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Nov 2, 2018 13:00
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i wonder if our sharepoint server is still running no one ever used it so it's not like anybody would tell me if it wasn't working there's a legit 50/50 chance i haven't decommissioned that box lmao
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if you're in the infrastructure space above sharepoint then sharepoint online in o365 is a loving godsend. gently caress janitoring sharepoint servers. ofc if you're in the developer space inside sharepoint then you're still hosed.
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Nov 2, 2018 18:37
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writing code for sharepoint is surprisingly not bad working with sharepoint as a button-clicker, trying to theme it like drupal, is hell on earth
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https://twitter.com/foone/status/1058676834940776450
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Nov 3, 2018 17:30
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Didn't realize con.* would cause that.
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Nov 3, 2018 21:41
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what's the specific bug here
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Nov 3, 2018 21:46
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DOS's hidden devices exist in every directory [arguable bug, but probably solid legacy compatibility reasons] and [the bug] totally ignore the file extension.
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Nov 3, 2018 21:52
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SRQ posted:what's the specific bug here reserved filename
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Nov 3, 2018 21:55
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SRQ posted:what's the specific bug here
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Nov 3, 2018 21:58
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i read the thread and tbh this seems like a non issue. like sure we can make fun of this but "you can't use this handful of specific filenames for legacy reasons" seems reasonable enough. the stupid part is windows not giving you an error telling you that's why and instead saying it's a file system thing.
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Nov 3, 2018 21:59
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tbf those legacy reasons were bad when they were created in 1974 and they're even worse now.
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Nov 3, 2018 22:02
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during one project at my last job, someone who should have known better wanted to split the market segments into folders named RES, BUS, and COM i had to explain why the COM one wouldn’t work
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Nov 3, 2018 22:03
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SRQ posted:i read the thread and tbh this seems like a non issue.
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Nov 3, 2018 22:29
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Chris Knight posted:during one project at my last job, someone who should have known better wanted to split the market segments into folders named RES, BUS, and COM
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Nov 3, 2018 23:30
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i had a coworker who put emojis in some word/excel doc file names on their mac and when these files needed to be sent to others, it created.. something of a mess
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Nov 3, 2018 23:36
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"Q4_FINANCIALS_😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 (2).xlsx"
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Phoenixan posted:i'm probably this guy because i had some folders/files on a harddrive that wouldn't copy over to a work desktop, because i used other os' for so long that i forgot that these restrictions existed makes sense for you. I’m talking people who exclusively use and develop on wandows
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works as designed
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Phoenixan posted:i had a coworker who put emojis in some word/excel doc file names on their mac and when these files needed to be sent to others, it created.. something of a mess lmao. what grade are they in?
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Nov 4, 2018 03:36
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anthonypants posted:yeah it's simple just wrap some error handling around this 40-year-old code. how hard could that be. i don't care how hard it is throwing up an error that doesn't make sense and would obligate a different approach (file too big? I guess I need to make it smaller!) to fix it is loving awful. don't make excuses for msft.
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President Beep posted:lmao. what grade are they in? cinci zoo sniper posted:"Q4_FINANCIALS_😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 (2).xlsx" Phoenixan fucked around with this message at 03:54 on Nov 4, 2018 |
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SRQ posted:i don't care how hard it is throwing up an error that doesn't make sense and would obligate a different approach (file too big? I guess I need to make it smaller!) to fix it is loving awful. don't make excuses for msft.
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Older people love emojis, not surprised.
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i should also note that it was a place that used macs exclusively for a time, but then added in some windows workstations around the time i started basically headaches would have been prevented if apple just released a mac pro worth a drat instead of a trashcan
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Nov 4, 2018 04:00
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anthonypants posted:you're saying someone should rewrite the code dealing with reserved names just to unreserve those names, but i'm making excuses for microsoft just because i don't want to personally do qa for whatever sub-contractor they hire to write that code no i'm just saying the error message needs to refer to the actual problem, whether that requires a kludged fix where it literally just detects that error and replaces it with "this name is reserved" i don't care.
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SRQ posted:no i'm just saying the error message needs to refer to the actual problem, whether that requires a kludged fix where it literally just detects that error and replaces it with "this name is reserved" i don't care.
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hobbesmaster posted:works as designed terribly!!
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Nov 4, 2018 04:48
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anthonypants posted:yeah i definitely think everything that interacts with the filesystem should have error handling code to throw "hey! there's a file here with a reserved name! you can't do that!" errors. that's both efficient and practical. do you work for microsoft why everything. this problem boils down to like 10 filenames, is it really that hard to throw an error that makes sense when this happens.
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Nov 4, 2018 04:50
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SRQ posted:why everything. this problem boils down to like 10 filenames, is it really that hard to throw an error that makes sense when this happens.
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god being an incoming exec/manager at must be a thing. "What? What are you looking at me for? This is an obvious issue with an obvious fix, do it." "What the gently caress do you mean six different teams?"
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SRQ posted:god being an incoming exec/manager at must be a thing. no, more like: executive: "partner gem, fix this obvious problem!" partner gem: "absolutely! principal gem, could you take a look at this?" principal gem: "will do! senior engineering manager, can your team get this fixed?" senior engineering manager: "definitely! developer, fix this!" developer: "will do!" *developer puts this one particular bug at top of list of 1,000 bugs* *developer works on bug for two weeks, fixes it and introduces 3 regressions in the process* *no one tests a goddamn thing* *code ships to public 6 months later* *customers gripe on twitter about regressions* executive: "fix these obvious problems!"
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