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Wasabi the J posted:If some dipshit left their poo poo on the drill hall floor, that ain't loving secured; it's not like its a loving locked room. Do you know how poor some of these NG guys are? PV2 Shmuckatelli from Nowhere, PA needs to learn to lock up his stuff, not get a $500 bill for non-missing equipment. I had guys that super needed their drill pay to survive...but that's another story.
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SimonCat posted:So you're pissed because you couldn't be assed to keep accountability of your own gear? Pretty sure that their gear was safely locked up and some rear end in a top hat with more power than common sense decided to flex nuts. In other words, army gonna army
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Mustang posted:Just refuse the statement of charges, force the FLIPL, and then they will eventually regret ever doing it in the first place as their BN XO and CO become aware of what they're doing. Plus Legal when they review the IOs findings. Yeah. Now just leaving gear unsecured out of laziness is certainly grounds for some sort of punishment/remediation, but not the statement of charges they've chosen. If the unsecured area was legit robbed, that's a different story and they might get nailed by a FLIPL such that a statement of charges is just faster, but a FLIPL usually helps rather than hurts when it comes to paying for poo poo, save for all the informal poo poo you catch for a FLIPL. And if the seniors decided to just throw their poo poo out as punishment for leaving it secured, just lmao, because there's this thing called custodial control of property that basically says you're not allowed to just destroy or ignore government property just because it isn't assigned to you, as long as you have the custodial ability to control it or care for it. On the micro scale, that means you're still culpable if you throw your buddies kevlar over a fence as a "prank." On the macro scale it means that if a dozen vehicles show up in your motor pool by accident, you better not cannibalize them, gently caress them up, sell them, etc, simply because they weren't formally signed over to you.
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EBB posted:Do you know how poor some of these NG guys are? PV2 Shmuckatelli from Nowhere, PA needs to learn to lock up his stuff, not get a $500 bill for non-missing equipment. I had guys that super needed their drill pay to survive...but that's another story. I'm literally in the Nevada guard. They probably didn't actually give them a statement of charges, and just said that poo poo as a scare tactic to anybody reading it, just like everybody else in the Army lies about poo poo of which they have no understanding. Yeah it's a dick head move but so is everything else the Army does so I'm not sure what the outrage is??? mlmp08 posted:Yeah.  Any statement of charges isn't going to go anywhere and any supply sergeant worth 2 shits is going to know that, and any commander is likely going to know that, do this is what leads me to believe that they are just lying to scare other idiots into securing their poo poo. Wasabi the J fucked around with this message at 20:31 on Oct 27, 2018 |
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not caring here posted:If they gave me a statement of charges I'd call the MPs to report a theft. Prime suspects being the people who gave me the statement of charges because they saw it, knew whose it was, and knew that it went missing. I would love to get that call. I would gladly waste their time in the funniest way possible (I do a great columbo impression).
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By accident in a joke about dumb arguments, Scott Aukerman discovered the forbidden phrase pair system. https://twitter.com/scottaukerman/status/1056634344968613888?s=21
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Cover me while I scrub, battle buddy!
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Naked Bear posted:Cover me while I scrub, battle buddy! Battle I’ll wash your back if you wash mine
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Naked Bear posted:Cover me while I scrub, battle buddy! Is that so someone can pull them out of the KBR installed electric shower or did someone get their poo poo stolen/lost?
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Oct 29, 2018 00:37
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This is a sex thing isn’t it?
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Naked Bear posted:Cover me while I scrub, battle buddy! Is it weird that I don't find this very novel because I had to live by those rules?
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"command discretion"
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Word is a fire is rolling towards Liggett. If you read about some dead Seabees rest assured this was a totally preventable tragedy. Like almost every training death.
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Train like we fight. That means spending every weekend out in the field to prepare you for 12 months in an air conditioned tent with wifi and a swimming pool -pog
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We have a bunch of people who get a kick out of firing blanks, which according to this scientific chart makes them bad people
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maffew buildings posted:We have a bunch of people who get a kick out of firing blanks, which according to this scientific chart makes them bad people Like, regularly shooting blanks, or like, no BFA and there's a cleaning rod aimed in at a squirrel, shooting blanks?
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One more negative test and I'll be confirmed to be firing blanks! 
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Steezo posted:Like, regularly shooting blanks, or like, no BFA and there's a cleaning rod aimed in at a squirrel, shooting blanks? Regular blanks, although someone will probably aim in with a cleaning rod at some point. We just got the 50's without headspace and timing, maybe we can burn up and break a few barrels
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maffew buildings posted:Regular blanks, although someone will probably aim in with a cleaning rod at some point. We just got the 50's without headspace and timing, maybe we can burn up and break a few barrels H&T your loving 50. It isn't just for the gun to function correctly- if you don't, you could det the round out of battery and get hosed up. Unlikely due to the design and robustness, but still a possibility. You'll probably catch shrapnel no matter what.
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If you fire a 50 without doing proper headspace and timing you deserve whatever happens.
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I think he means that they got those titanium receivered fiddies that don't have headspace and timing adjustment. Saw a couple before I got out.
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Just  if you're not using a 50 that's killed either fascists or communists in at least two different theaters of war.My 50 in Korea was built in 1936.
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That's cool then, it only took them almost a hundred years to resolve the most likely cause of failure. Which really is the most Army solution, now that I think about it.
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UP THE BUM NO BABY posted:The new M2A1 doesn't get headspace and timed anymore. What I don't get is why isn't that now a M2A2 or a M2A1 mk II.
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Vasudus posted:That's cool then, it only took them almost a hundred years to resolve the most likely cause of failure. Most likely cause of failure is still either the operator or unit armorer. Though, the guard likes to solve the armorer problem by not having one. Active still just melts barrels because what's a barrel change, lol...
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not caring here posted:I think he means that they got those titanium receivered fiddies that don't have headspace and timing adjustment. They rolled out a few of those brand new to my unit since we were next in the deployment pipe. They had to go through some kind of firing-in time, like running a new car in. I wasn't on that range but a number came back with cracked receivers or broken parts from vibration stress.
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Ahhh, you got to see the first ones as well I see. They were a red hot mess when they came out, because whoever was manufacturing them decided to not use the exact alloy as was specified, and chose a slightly different (but of course cheaper) alloy which then of course cracked under use. Last I heard was that they were just fine now, but I don't really look into that kind of poo poo any more, so they could be all garbage still.
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Haven't had any issues with ours, definitely one of the most reliable weapons we have. The issues we have had have all been due to the operator not cleaning their weapon. Now the RWS they're attached to on the other hand....
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Steezo posted:Most likely cause of failure is still either the operator or unit armorer. Though, the guard likes to solve the armorer problem by not having one. Active still just melts barrels because what's a barrel change, lol... Oh, yeah I should have specified that when I mean H&T being the most likely cause of failure, I mostly mean that the operator failed to properly check it. Not that H&T in itself is the problem, but removing it from being a problem in the first place is probably the best solution, because joe gonna joe.
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Vasudus posted:Oh, yeah I should have specified that when I mean H&T being the most likely cause of failure, I mostly mean that the operator failed to properly check it. Where my brain, broken as it is, went was "remove operator, no more error" porblem sloved. Which would be a very military groupthink way of solving it.
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Yeah it's the slide and lock barrel variety. We're dumb, but we aren't use a 50 without doing headspace and timing dumb. Well someone here is probably
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Mustang posted:Now the RWS they're attached to on the other hand....
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When I was an armorer, nobody ever fired the 50, and it only left the arms room once over 2 years. Nobody shot any of the 240s or 249s either. Gotta love a headquarters company.
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Last gunnery I was at someone didn’t fully lock a barrel in place on their M2A1. Said SFC proceeded to send the barrel off the front of his MGS.
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When I was an idiot at IOBC I put a hot SAW barrel on an empty plastic ammo drum. It ended up coated in melted green plastic. The guy in charge of the weapons pool on Benning apparently thought it was funny and it allegedly got added to a collection of dumb poo poo people did. I didn’t get in trouble for it. 
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gently caress, man, I want to vent but I'm not sure if I'm gonna get found out. And EBH at this point is going to give me the same rigmarole they gave me the last two times. Anyone know some good anon posting places? Because today has me loving fuming.
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Hit the discord channel maybe? We’re all vetted to post on it.
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An interesting, sad, talk about recruiting standards in Vietnam and today. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_J2VwFDV4-g
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Who’s excited for the pinks and greens announcements next week that they’ve been dropping hints about this year?
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