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https://twitter.com/matthew_d_green/status/1059435094421712896 nice
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LIVE AMMO ROLEPLAY posted:I remember reading that Arthur C Clarke story where one side loses the war they were previously winning because they keep putting untested weapons into full production, and I always thought nobody was that stupid. That story is cool. I forget what it was called though, but it was told from the point of view of a surrendered high-ranking officer from the side that was winning until they started putting in more untested half-assed improvements.
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Nov 5, 2018 16:38
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lmao
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Nov 5, 2018 16:43
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https://twitter.com/matthew_d_green/status/1059438494362296320 lmao
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Nov 5, 2018 16:55
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but it's government grade fippis four ten
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Nov 5, 2018 17:00
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crucial really dropped the ball there, surprised at how well the evos held up given they're by far the more popular brand. comparison with regular and pro would be interesting, and more recent versions/brands in-use only real issue i have is that these aren't exactly sold as secure solutions and this relies on bitlocker ignorance by the people using it (so a 1:1 overlap on a venn diagram) e: worth reading the replies by one of the authors of the paper https://twitter.com/bvgastel/with_replies
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Nov 5, 2018 18:04
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ate poo poo on live tv posted:That story is cool. I forget what it was called though, but it was told from the point of view of a surrendered high-ranking officer from the side that was winning until they started putting in more untested half-assed improvements. Superiority by Arthur C Clarke?
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Wiggly Wayne DDS posted:crucial really dropped the ball there, surprised at how well the evos held up given they're by far the more popular brand. comparison with regular and pro would be interesting, and more recent versions/brands in-use whenever anyone mentions them i still hear "I'd love to have the SAMSUNG SDD 840 EVO" in my head
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Nov 5, 2018 18:23
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i was expecting the crucial variety of issues to be more widespread, but they didn't exactly have a lot of devices to mess with if more detailed research happens in the future i'd be surprised if crucial were the exception
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Nov 5, 2018 18:25
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I'll keep using veracrypt tyvm
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Nov 5, 2018 18:29
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Meliarion posted:Superiority by Arthur C Clarke? Yeah, that's the one.
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Nov 5, 2018 18:38
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Security; Actually The Antithesis.
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Nov 5, 2018 18:45
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oh hey, whattya know ssds are actually poo poo garbage for gently caress idiots, who could've seen that coming?
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Nov 5, 2018 18:46
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trusting oems to do things correctly remains microsofts #1 folly
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Nov 5, 2018 19:03
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this is some powerful styming, welcome back anime dog tits
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Meliarion posted:Superiority by Arthur C Clarke? thanks, enjoyed re-reading this
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hackbunny posted:I'll keep using veracrypt tyvm  and/or encrypted lvm
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Stymie posted:oh hey, whattya know ssds are actually poo poo garbage for gently caress idiots, who could've seen that coming? you're right you should be running a self-encrypting HDD that will surely avoid this issue
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Nov 5, 2018 19:29
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just go back to using IDE drives and shuffle the data lines around. no problemo
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Nov 5, 2018 19:32
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so what the gently caress was MS thinking letting the drives handle the key management instead of leaving that to the TPM and just releasing the key to the drive at boot so it could accelerate the AES instructions. You can still gently caress that up too, but the scope is much smaller and easier to validate.
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Nov 5, 2018 19:34
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Meliarion posted:Superiority by Arthur C Clarke?  Here is a link with the story for those interested: http://www.mayofamily.com/RLM/txt_Clarke_Superiority.html
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BangersInMyKnickers posted:so what the gently caress was MS thinking letting the drives handle the key management instead of leaving that to the TPM and just releasing the key to the drive at boot so it could accelerate the AES instructions. You can still gently caress that up too, but the scope is much smaller and easier to validate. it sounds like that's what they're doing, the problem is the drive accepts any key to decrypt
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Nov 5, 2018 20:05
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No, it accepts any password, not any key. That's not how AES works. The key _should_ be derived from the password but apparently it's simply stored somewhere on the SSD unencrypted and the drive only does a very simple password check.
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Nov 5, 2018 20:19
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Shaggar posted:it sounds like that's what they're doing, the problem is the drive accepts any key to decrypt my read was that once bitlocker saw the drive supporting hardware encryption they just turned it over to that entirely
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Nov 5, 2018 20:23
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just got an email from these guys... without further comment: https://www.agilepq.com/solutions/solutions quote:OLD PARADIGM ( 1998-2015 ) wow, C code instead of mathematical equations!
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Nov 5, 2018 20:27
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BangersInMyKnickers posted:my read was that once bitlocker saw the drive supporting hardware encryption they just turned it over to that entirely
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Nov 5, 2018 20:43
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hobbesmaster posted:just got an email from these guys... without further comment: back in the old days computers were vast and infinite because memory was expensive, these days memory is cheap so you don't get any of it ever
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Nov 5, 2018 21:07
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ssds are gimmick devices that prosumers gobble up in droves because they've been told that they're faster without actual direct knowledge of their performance vs. a good quality hdd when actually used for functions more intensive than just browsing facebook and checking email in a $2000 custom rig, surprise surprise they're terrible and unreliable the tip-off should be that they're all peddled by fly-by-night garbage vendors like ocz and crucial
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Nov 5, 2018 22:09
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hahahahahah
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Stymie posted:ssds are gimmick devices that prosumers gobble up in droves because they've been told that they're faster without actual direct knowledge of their performance vs. a good quality hdd I guess you've never played video games from an SSD my friend
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Chalks posted:I guess you've never played video games from an SSD my friend I guess you've never seen Stymie post in YOSPOS my friend
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Stymie posted:ssds are gimmick devices that prosumers gobble up in droves because they've been told that they're faster without actual direct knowledge of their performance vs. a good quality hdd this is the a+ stymie content you leave him off ignore to read
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Chalks posted:I guess you've never played video games from an SSD my friend and god willing i never shall i just hope they keep making high quality hdds until the ssd market implodes
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Nov 5, 2018 22:17
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jesus, I didn't even consider the likely outcome of "platter enthusiasts" the same as vinyl records
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Nov 5, 2018 22:22
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BangersInMyKnickers posted:jesus, I didn't even consider the likely outcome of "platter enthusiasts" the same as vinyl records this is a poor analogy because with vinyl, the difference in quality is largely a matter of taste and nostalgia vs. other forms of media that offer more convenience or modern advancements in sound fidelity it's not that hdds : vinyl :: ssds : mp3s, it's more like hdds : vinyl :: ssds : listening to a dog's rear end while it shits right into your ear
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Nov 5, 2018 22:29
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hobbesmaster posted:this is the a+ stymie content you leave him off ignore to read
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Nov 5, 2018 22:31
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lol if you ignore anyone on this forum
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Nov 5, 2018 22:36
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Stymie posted:and god willing i never shall God help me, I know im reply to Stymie, but can't you conceive of workloads where random access performance is more important than sequential access? Like no matter how fast HDDs get they can't compete on that metric vs ssds.
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Nov 5, 2018 22:37
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anthonypants posted:anyone responding to it earnestly should be punished Please chastise me
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the data is so much warmer *laptop palm rest becomes uncomfortable to touch*
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