|
Suggesting that the only people who would like Booker are black rich people is racisms
|
#
?
Nov 5, 2018 21:21
|
|
|
|
| # ? Jun 10, 2024 18:02 |
|
|
Booker is more charismatic than the median politician but doesn't have the Bill Clinton/Barack Obama superstar charisma IMO.
|
|
#
?
Nov 5, 2018 21:30
|
|
|
He's the only candidate that's saved someone from a burning building so he has that going for him.
|
|
#
?
Nov 5, 2018 21:35
|
|
|
Wicked Them Beats posted:He's the only candidate that's saved someone from a burning building so he has that going for him. Also his media appearances! 
|
|
#
?
Nov 5, 2018 21:39
|
|
|
Booker's terrible stance on making BDS a crime is a huge red flag that he would be a terrible president.
|
|
#
?
Nov 5, 2018 21:43
|
|
|
So no one under the age of sixty is good and the best candidate is nearly eighty-years-old. Yeesh.
|
|
#
?
Nov 5, 2018 21:45
|
|
|
All people are bad
|
|
#
?
Nov 5, 2018 21:51
|
|
|
Hellblazer187 posted:All people are bad I give AOC until her first 100 days in the House before she monumentally fucks something up and people are calling for her to get primaried out in 2020.
|
|
#
?
Nov 5, 2018 21:52
|
|
|
Star Man posted:So no one under the age of sixty is good and the best candidate is nearly eighty-years-old. This is the end result of the Clintonites taking over the party for like 30 years.
|
|
#
?
Nov 5, 2018 21:54
|
|
|
Wicked Them Beats posted:He's the only candidate that's saved someone from a burning building so he has that going for him. Was that person a capitalist?
|
|
#
?
Nov 5, 2018 22:24
|
|
|
^^^I mean it was in Newark, so probably.WampaLord posted:Also his media appearances! Orrin Hatch and Polynesian folk music, together at last! Wicked Them Beats fucked around with this message at 22:27 on Nov 5, 2018 |
|
#
?
Nov 5, 2018 22:24
|
|
|
Not a Step posted:but he doesn't have that Obama charm so another black guy seems like a stretch I think this is a very subjective take, though I do think Booker suffers because history can't repeat and he is now perpetually doomed to be compared to Obama and will never live up to nostalgia.
|
|
#
?
Nov 5, 2018 22:39
|
|
|
Im calling for aoc to be primaried. To attempt to list her crimes would probably overload the forums
|
|
#
?
Nov 5, 2018 22:51
|
|
|
Lightning Knight posted:I think this is a very subjective take, though I do think Booker suffers because history can't repeat and he is now perpetually doomed to be compared to Obama and will never live up to nostalgia. Look, the universal take from every liberal I've spoken with in the last several years is that America runs on racism and racism alone, and that no one else has any other possible drives or motives except maybe sexism. Obama only got in on pure charm, please ignore his appeals to working class voters (whom he then threw into a ditch)
|
|
#
?
Nov 5, 2018 22:51
|
|
|
Not a Step posted:Look, the universal take from every liberal I've spoken with in the last several years is that America runs on racism and racism alone, and that no one else has any other possible drives or motives except maybe sexism. Obama only got in on pure charm, please ignore his appeals to working class voters (whom he then threw into a ditch) I think I have misunderstood what you said, or I am being dumb, my apologies. I was just saying I think whether or not Cory Booker is as charismatic as Obama is an entirely subjective question, but I realize now that you apparently weren't being completely serious in your post.
|
|
#
?
Nov 5, 2018 22:57
|
|
|
Calibanibal posted:Im calling for aoc to be primaried. To attempt to list her crimes would probably overload the forums You mean there's more crimes besides liking League of Legends and thinking Janeway was a good captain?
|
|
#
?
Nov 5, 2018 22:59
|
|
|
Heck Yes! Loam! posted:You mean there's more crimes besides liking League of Legends and thinking Janeway was a good captain? i can forgive a lot of things but liking voyager is a bridge too far
|
|
#
?
Nov 5, 2018 23:03
|
|
|
Lightning Knight posted:I think I have misunderstood what you said, or I am being dumb, my apologies. I was just saying I think whether or not Cory Booker is as charismatic as Obama is an entirely subjective question, but I realize now that you apparently weren't being completely serious in your post. My real take is that Booker is going to get crushed under a wave of more charismatic candidates. By the time the primary gets to the point where anyone starts looking at policy in depth he'll have been forced out. In particular, Diamond Joe is going to suck all the oxygen out of the room for the Establishment Dem clown car and won't gaffe himself out of existence in time for a nerd like Booker to recover.
|
|
#
?
Nov 5, 2018 23:05
|
|
|
Star Man posted:I give AOC until her first 100 days in the House before she monumentally fucks something up and people are calling for her to get primaried out in 2020. She honestly doesn't seem to understand what socialism actually is and that annoys me.
|
|
#
?
Nov 5, 2018 23:07
|
|
|
Wicked Them Beats posted:i can forgive a lot of things but liking voyager is a bridge too far Mantis42 posted:She honestly doesn't seem to understand what socialism actually is and that annoys me. Why do I feel like these are related? Voyager, a vessel pulled from a post scarcity space communism utopia, immediately implements rationing when disconnected from the state. 
|
|
#
?
Nov 5, 2018 23:20
|
|
|
I've never watched Star Trek. What's her opinion on The Orville?
|
|
#
?
Nov 5, 2018 23:26
|
|
|
AOC is not running for president in 2020 (sadly).
|
|
#
?
Nov 5, 2018 23:27
|
|
|
Mantis42 posted:I've never watched Star Trek. You really should. I have no idea who should run in 2020. I just don't want it to be a senator or governor that gets elected this cycle. Also please no Joe Biden.
|
|
#
?
Nov 5, 2018 23:30
|
|
|
Star Man posted:So no one under the age of sixty is good and the best candidate is nearly eighty-years-old. kirsten gillibrand is a perfectly decent runner-up if something goes wrong with Sanders and Warren doesn't have the campaign chops, and there are eg, I'm hoping Buttigieg runs for governor or senator or something; i certainly wouldn't have been sad if he'd made DNC chair relatedly, i think i asked earlier about Tim Ryan and Jay Inslee and didn't get an answer, although re your post in specific only Ryan is sub-60 (45!) Heck Yes! Loam! posted:You really should. running for president generally requires prominence, which generally means being at least a statewide pol or a REALLY noisy representative, unless we're going with billionaires and celebrities, which has its own problems Goatse James Bond fucked around with this message at 23:36 on Nov 5, 2018 |
|
#
?
Nov 5, 2018 23:34
|
|
|
Tim Ryan is weird and I don't think I want him anywhere near the presidency tbh.
|
|
#
?
Nov 5, 2018 23:35
|
|
|
Lightning Knight posted:Tim Ryan is weird and I don't think I want him anywhere near the presidency tbh. I don't know beans about him, he just comes up when I google things about "progressive-est candidates 2020"! Edit: go go cursory googling and wikipedia, I guess Pros: - Challenged Pelosi for her job - Good on ICE - Part of Medicare for All caucus and vocally in favor of it Cons: - Lives in Ohio - Born in Ohio - Against do-not-call lists and laws - Anti-NAFTA - Incrementalist on Medicare-for-All on the grounds that Americans are dumb and don't understand things Office Pig posted:This says some very dire things about those search results. i probably clicked the same BBC article both times  and it doesn't give Gillibrand a full entry so that's gonna color my opinion on it
Goatse James Bond fucked around with this message at 23:46 on Nov 5, 2018 |
|
#
?
Nov 5, 2018 23:36
|
|
|
GreyjoyBastard posted:I don't know beans about him, he just comes up when I google things about "progressive-est candidates 2020"! This says some very dire things about those search results.
|
|
#
?
Nov 5, 2018 23:38
|
|
|
Luis Gutierrez probably isn't running, but looks interesting. john delaney has already declared, which i did not know, and I don't remember him coming up in this thread, which probably doesn't bode well for him this guy's clearly got potential: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Nwadike_Jr. i seem to recall this thread saying that Deval Patrick is Bad but I can't remember why
|
|
#
?
Nov 5, 2018 23:54
|
|
|
GreyjoyBastard posted:Luis Gutierrez probably isn't running, but looks interesting. IIRC correctly Patrick's first move after leaving his governorship was to become a corporate raider and join Bain Capital don't know much else about him
|
|
#
?
Nov 5, 2018 23:58
|
|
|
Wicked Them Beats posted:^^^I mean it was in Newark, so probably. Your impression of Newark and mine are very different.
|
|
#
?
Nov 6, 2018 00:00
|
|
|
Brony Car posted:Your impression of Newark and mine are very different. I've actually never been, I just assume every city on the east coast is infested with financial sector workers. If it's actually a hotbed of socialism or something then neat.
|
|
#
?
Nov 6, 2018 00:14
|
|
|
If Beto wins tomorrow (big if), I could see him doing an Obama and running in 2020.
|
|
#
?
Nov 6, 2018 00:16
|
|
|
Wicked Them Beats posted:I've actually never been, I just assume every city on the east coast is infested with financial sector workers. http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2018/11/newarks-revival-is-finally-real-so-is-its-latest-problem.html It's been struggling to make a comeback for a while. My understanding was that it was like a less violent Baltimore.
|
|
#
?
Nov 6, 2018 00:18
|
|
|
Sodomy Hussein posted:If Beto wins tomorrow (big if), I could see him doing an Obama and running in 2020. I fuckin' love Beto, but I'm strongly against this. We need him as the Texas Senator for a while yet. also, Obama had an extra two years as Senator over Beto 2020
|
|
#
?
Nov 6, 2018 00:18
|
|
|
Sodomy Hussein posted:If Beto wins tomorrow (big if), I could see him doing an Obama and running in 2020. I sort of hope not, that would be pretty lovely of him considering that Obama was coming from a blue state while he is not.
|
|
#
?
Nov 6, 2018 00:18
|
|
|
Sodomy Hussein posted:If Beto wins tomorrow (big if), I could see him doing an Obama and running in 2020. That would be an insanely terrible idea and a good way to risk throwing out the good will built up by his campaign.
|
|
#
?
Nov 6, 2018 00:19
|
|
|
Sodomy Hussein posted:If Beto wins tomorrow (big if), I could see him doing an Obama and running in 2020. Losing a Texas senate seat? Let Gilibrand run and win and then have AOC take the senate seat thank you very much. I'll also take President Klobuchar and Senator Illhan Omar
|
|
#
?
Nov 6, 2018 00:20
|
|
|
Neither Beto nor Gillum are going to run for the 2020 nomination if they win tomorrow, they'd basically have to immediately abandon the office they just won to start a 2 year campaign against a crowded field. But both of them are very likely to be in play in the veepstakes, if picked they'd only have to campaign from July to November and would only have to give up their day job if the Democrats successfully take back the White House.
|
|
#
?
Nov 6, 2018 00:26
|
|
|
DynamicSloth posted:Neither Beto nor Gillum are going to run for the 2020 nomination if they win tomorrow, they'd basically have to immediately abandon the office they just won to start a 2 year campaign against a crowded field. yea they'd be stupid to run in 2020 when they'd be pulling a Palin and pissing everyone off just to join a massive field they'll 100% lose in. They would make tasty vp options though, but even then I'd be pissed if Beto won and then did that.
|
|
#
?
Nov 6, 2018 00:44
|
|
|
|
| # ? Jun 10, 2024 18:02 |
|
|
To be fair Palin went back to being Governor after crashing the '08 ticket, she subsequently resigned less than a year later not to seek higher office but to cash out with a reality tv series.
|
|
#
?
Nov 6, 2018 00:48
|
|