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eke out posted:you can't fire the special counsel without cause and a written report as to why to congress Can congress reject that
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cheetah7071 posted:Sessions' replacement will have firing power over Mueller, right? It won't stick with Rosenstein? Yes. Rosenstein was only overseeing the probe because Sessions had recused himself. The new acting AG will not have this conflict.
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If Trump was smart he would have fired Mueler way back around when he fired Comey and it would have been out of the news cycle in a day without any work done on the investigation.
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mdemone posted:Have any Democrats managed to squeak out some noises about Sessions yet? https://twitter.com/RepJerryNadler/status/1060259307567091713?s=20 (Top dem on the house judiciary committee)
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CNN is ignorantly baffled by this development. "Why now?" "Why would Trump want this fight?" "Will 5 or 6 republican senators join the democrats to protect Mueller's investigation?" "Rudy Giuliani just told me Trump will let the Mueller investigation play out!" "Trump has always said he's innocent, why would he want to go down this road?" I can't believe none of these people have forgotten to breath on air and fallen over.
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eke out posted:you can't fire the special counsel without cause and a written report as to why to congress Is this not simply a DOJ guideline that could be rewritten at once?
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Hahahaha, John Kelly was the one who called Sessions.
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There's no way they fire Mueller. Come on people. It's way too late for that.
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mdemone posted:Yeah, Whitaker is now in charge of the special counsel probe. Can one of the resident wonks break down what this will likely mean for the Mueller probe going forward?
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༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ GEORGIA TAKE MY ENERGY ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ
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Aaaaarrrrgggggg I managed to take a break election night and my anxiety weathered okay this morning but gently caress this is not what I needed.
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eke out posted:you can't fire the special counsel without cause and a written report as to why to congress he will make one up like with comey. also coward trump made kelly do it.
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squirrelzipper posted:Which honestly seems like a huge loving loophole given the stakes. Oh yeah, our country? Nah it fell apart because of a pedantic loophole. It's actually not clear to me the vacancies reform act was intended to exclude an official being fired, it's just written in such a way that it doesn't clearly apply.
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Big Mad Drongo posted:Look on the bright side, after they LOCK HER UP she won't be able to act on any funny ideas about running for president again in 2020! If anyone would pull a Traficant and run from jail it's Clinton.
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enraged_camel posted:what about "asked to resign" True, and same here, but we need to look at the legality of it, which is that, legally, sessions resigned.
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Your Taint posted:ahahaha Kelly had to call Sessions because Trump is too chickenshit. Of course.
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Can't the new House reinstate Mueller if he's fired in January? What are the rules here?
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Demon Of The Fall posted:There's no way they fire Mueller. Come on people. It's way too late for that. Trump is very stupid though, don't forget.
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VH4Ever posted:Can one of the resident wonks break down what this will likely mean for the Mueller probe going forward? It is likely he will not explicitly fire Mueller. He'll just deny requests to expand his scope and decide that he has a budget of fifty cents per day. A lot depends on how much approval Mueller already sought.
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mdemone posted:Is this not simply a DOJ guideline that could be rewritten at once? no that's not how changing regulations works
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1glitch0 posted:CNN is ignorantly baffled by this development. Political pundits are hired specifically because they have no insight into politics.
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eke out posted:you can't fire the special counsel without cause and a written report as to why to congress Manufacturing a cause: 60 seconds Typing up a report to congress: 7 minutes Administering the Reich: 1000 years
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eke out posted:you can't fire the special counsel without cause and a written report as to why to congress j/k he forgot to sign it - all the rest is accurate tho
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1glitch0 posted:
This seems like a real actual question. Muller was hired by republicans in a bipartisan thing. Like, republicans started this probe, it's not 100% clear they are actually unified in ending it.
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Demon Of The Fall posted:There's no way they fire Mueller. Come on people. It's way too late for that. Even Trump wouldn't be so brazen as to do thing! *Trump does thing* Well, regardless,
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Demon Of The Fall posted:There's no way they fire Mueller. Come on people. It's way too late for that. Word? So Kelly fired Sessions the day after the midterms because the WH was bored? Mueller is probably out by the end of the week.
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eke out posted:no that's not how changing regulations works Well, it depends on whether it's a formal regulation or an informal internal regulation. Formal regulation has to go through the rulemaking process. Informal, I think, would be more abbreviated and go through whatever internal process DOJ has.
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mango sentinel posted:Aaaaarrrrgggggg Breathe easier knowing that a racist goblin who's sole purpose in life was to lock as many minorities up is no longer in a position of power. And did not accomplish nearly as much in that position as we feared he might. Good to see both Sessionses assholes out this week.
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Demon Of The Fall posted:There's no way they fire Mueller. Come on people. It's way too late for that. To what other end then? I can only think that maybe Trump was SUPER pissed about the election/presser and finally exploded at Sessions.
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I want to live in the timelien where Sucession resigning means all the poo poo he done is reverted back. Also he's put into a weed brazen bull.
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:This seems like a real actual question. Muller was hired by republicans in a bipartisan thing. Like, republicans started this probe, it's not 100% clear they are actually unified in ending it. If they face a lot of political pressure and they're up for reelection anytime soon, sure. But I wouldn't count on it.
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Honestly if someone convinced trump that keeping mueller on to finish the investigation was a good idea, that person is a hero
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HappyHippo posted:Sure would have been nice to have taken the Senate.... Or at least closed the margin in case one or two Republicans found their spines That dog won’t hunt OP
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Radish posted:Political pundits are hired specifically because they have no insight into politics. I know, but I need to scream. Owlofcreamcheese posted:This seems like a real actual question. Muller was hired by republicans in a bipartisan thing. Like, republicans started this probe, it's not 100% clear they are actually unified in ending it. Yes, yes they are unified in ending it. Yes. The answer is yes.
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https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/1060264066663489536
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1glitch0 posted:Word? Most likely they planned this ahead of time and were hoping for a closer race or an outcome where the R maintained control. The D +9.5 kinda throwing a wrench into that narrative.
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Demon Of The Fall posted:There's no way they fire Mueller. Come on people. It's way too late for that. This assumes "they" act logically.
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It's more that firing Mueller when the Democratic majority House will just come in and start investigating in his place instantly is so utterly pointless. Especially since they can just literally tell Mueller to tell them everything and give them all his poo poo, and then even use him as a consultant for the investigation they'll be doing in the place of his original investigation.
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Paracaidas posted:Also, importantly, the legal and procedural ones. *makes wank off motion*
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Isnt it mostly done tho
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